[H] Thermal Compound TIM Round-up Candidates

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Kyle_Bennett, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett HardForum Admin Staff Member

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    OK, getting geared up for a TIM Round-up. Hopefully next week I will get around to de-lidding our 7700K retail CPU that I bought. I figured since we were going to be doing some delidding testing, I might as well spend some time and do a TIM roundup after I get the delidding done.

    Here is my list of candidates that I have already purchased and are on the way. I am NOT going to get into all the liquid metal TIMs for usage between the IHS and water block.

    Let me know if I have missed any products that you think should be included.




    ARCTIC MX-4 Thermal Compound Paste, Carbon Based High Performance, Heatsink Paste, Thermal Compound CPU for All Coolers, Thermal Interface Material - 4 Grams

    Arctic Silver Arctic Alumina 1.75g Premium Ceramic Polysynthetic Thermal Cooling Compound (AA-1.75G)

    Artic Silver AS5-12G Silver Thermal Compound 12 g Syringe

    Coollaboratory Liquid Copper

    Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme Thermal Compound TC-GC-03-A

    IC Diamond 24 Carat 4.8 Gram Thermal Compound

    Innovation Cooling Diamond "7 Carat" Thermal Compound - 1.5 Grams

    Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Compound

    Phobya HeGrease Extreme 1g

    Prolimatech Pk-1 Nano Aluminum Thermal Compound - 5g

    Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminium Thermal Compound 1.5g

    Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Grease Paste - 1.0 Gram

    Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound Paste Grease

    Tuniq TX-4 1ml Heat Conducting Thermal Compound Paste Grease

    Added: X23-7783D, Direct From Manufacturer Shin-Etsu
     
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  2. Killerxp100

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    Looks solid looking forward to the results.
     
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  3. Araxie

    Araxie [H]ardness Supreme

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    Kayle please, can you add some Shin Etsu stuff to the mix?. Shin Etsu have probably one of the best non-conductive, non-metal TIM out there, it's the one used by EVGA and Corsair as pre-applied TIM on all the AIOs, it's one of the main reason why people once change/remount a Corsair AIO never get the same result as with the OEM TIM.

    The Shin Etsu X23-7783D would be a great choice, Zero Cure time, easy to spread, easy to clean..
     
  4. Chapeau

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    EK (Enerdyne) Indigo XS
    Phase change metal alloy.

    So unknown compared to traditional TIM's. Also easier to get a result that with the liquid metal alternatives so warrants a look?
     
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  5. Kyle_Bennett

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    Added.
     
  6. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett HardForum Admin Staff Member

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    Not dealing with those one time application things for $20 or $30.
     
  7. Chapeau

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    Yeah - price is NOT great. However, it's not as terrible because you do get two in the pack.
    :cool: So... only half as terrible.
     
  8. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett HardForum Admin Staff Member

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    But when I might mount a block 3 to 6 times during testing, I am not dropping $60 on that. And quite frankly, I just think they are sort of bullshit for newbies. So man-up and don't make me come over there and take your [H]Card. ;)
     
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  10. Krenum

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    Looks like a great list. Using the Noctua myself, but I a very partial to IC Diamond when I have it around.
     
  11. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett HardForum Admin Staff Member

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    Pervert.
     
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  12. Brackle

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    Cheese. We need to see if it is better at cooling after all these years!
     
  13. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett HardForum Admin Staff Member

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    I thought we already settled that. ;)
     
  14. Brackle

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    Laugh it was worth a shot!
     
  15. Kyle_Bennett

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    To catch the newbies up....

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/04/07/thermal_paste_shootout_q209

    American cheese is the name given to cheese that goes through a specific type of pasteurization process. Often yellow or orange in color, this cheese has also been known to take on a white color. A versatile type of cheese, tracing its origins back to the very start of this great nation, American cheese has found uses in barbeques and kitchens all over the country. Finding detailed specs has been no easy feat so without measurements in specific gravity or thermal conductivity we will be testing purely on its performance.


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    We do however suggest you stay away from cheese if you are overclocking. ;)
     
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  16. Peter2k

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    Just so you know

    some of the stuff is a pain to remove
    especially if you're swapping and testing a lot

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    that being said I'm especially interested how the liquid ones handle

    those would be
    liquid ultra
    Grizzly conductonaut (hope I got it right)
    Phobya LM
    ahh
    and Coollaboratory Liquid Copper (although I think it's silicon based)
    cool

    thx Kyle

    :D

     
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  17. Kyle_Bennett

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    You just need the right chemicals. :) 99% isopropyl usually works very well. If not, you can go with some things that are a bit more harsh. Also the block I am using is mirror finished.
     
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  18. Peter2k

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    can be a hassle lapping a CPU DIE:ROFLMAO:

    but I saw youre gonna put the lid back on


    still lapping the cooler/IHS every time something like this happens, Ugh.

    glad its not me having a roundup :LOL:
     
  19. Kyle_Bennett

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    No exactly my first rodeo with thermal paste in 20 years of reviewing hardware. I will suffer through it. ;)

    Work smart, not hard.

    https://www.amazon.com/D5S6-Contact-Cleaner-F5S-H6-FaderLube/dp/B00HNV7WI2/
     
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  20. Peter2k

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    :D

    I also really wonder how much difference on the delidding is from removing the glue under the IHS
    as in the distance between DIE and IHS might be a bit too much, because of too much/thick glue


    you'd be willing to test that? :ninja:

    maybe after removing the glue, just put some of the cheapest most general paste (also easy to remove and not conducting) you can find on, but leave the IHS "swimming" on the CPU when you put it in the board?

    I just ...., wonder if it's really just bad TIM, or the tolerances when it comes to glueing the IHS on are a bit too high
     
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  21. I thought some of those liquid metal compounds were perm set once they harden. So you basically get one crack at it.
     
  22. Qrash

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    Yes, I think this is worth checking as much as the difference between different TIMs.
     
  23. tikiman2012

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    The time that I tried the liquid metal TIM it stained my Swiftech water block. Mirror finish was gone. Tried every cleaner & solvent that I had in the garage. Ended up lapping it & giving it a new polish. Just not worth the hassle IMO.

    IC Diamond cuts the shit out of everything. It works great for giving processor dies a matte finish.
     
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  24. tikiman2012

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    Depends on the kind you get.
     
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  25. Jim Kim

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    Can't wait for the results from a reliable site like the [H]ard. Keep up the good work.
     
  26. ir0nw0lf

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    +1 for Kyle using the word "smorgasbord" on the front page. :geek:
     
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  27. Kyle_Bennett

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    I looked it up to make sure I spulld et curklie.
     
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  28. Endgame

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    I have a couple of syringes of Swifttech Tim mate 2, but I've never used it. Would love to see if its any good.
     
  29. Shotglass01

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    All in on this one. Great work! Can't wait to see how this turns out. :)
     
  30. CaptNumbNutz

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    I want to see more oddball stuff like the cheese test again. Maybe try different cheeses?
     
  31. cyclone3d

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    What about Arctic Silver Ceramique 2 ?

    It is my go-to TIM for laptops and systems I work on/build for others.

    Prime reasons are:
    1. It works well
    2. Is easy to spread
    3. Is cheaper than IC Diamond
    4. Doesn't dry out
    5. I can get it locally
     
  32. VIC-20

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    Cheese fails, but why not try Sriracha? It seems to be all the vegan hipster rage these days.
     
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    I'm not sure cabbage will fare very well.
     
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  34. Aireoth

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    What about that weird 12 second to mount water block from Ncore?
     
  35. Kyle_Bennett

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    Well, that is a whole other discussion..
     
  36. prime2515102

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    Yeah but you only used American cheese. A Velveeta vs. cheddar comparison would be very useful.
     
  37. Kyle_Bennett

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    I was thinking smoked Gouda.
     
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  38. Aireoth

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    Your delidding it anyway ;).

    Looking forward to the results, always looking for something crazy to try at home.
     
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  40. Kwaz

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    Can you add Antec Formula 7? It's a paste I've found is a bit better than the NT-H1, though it is quite thick. Is it possible to test both the spread and X methods for this particular paste? It does not spread well with the pea method, and the instructions advise to um, spread it.