- May 29, 2015
I wish we had a microcenter in AZ
Would these be good upgrade form intel 4790k?
The 87 was the day before the sale. Saw them for 67 open box today.But they're 80 new, how is 87 for open box a deal?
Reminds me of the good ol days where people would get cpus see how much overclock there was if not much they'd return, silicon lottery be damned
I wouldn't say they're identical. I'm running 4.5Ghz all core on my 3800X with 3466Mhz RAM at CL14.Yeah, the 3600x is a very hot deal there! There's a bigger difference in clock speed in the 3600 to 3600x (200 mhz, or 5% performance boost) than the rather pointless 3700x to 3800x transition ( only 100 mhz, or 2% performance boost).
All these processors tend to overclock identically, telling us that this is just product segmentation.
people need to get over the whole fan thing, just set it to silent in bios and ignore that it exists. you'll never reach the 68C threshold needed to get the fan to turn on in silent mode even under full pcie 4.0 load.Ended up not buying anything. Did mobo research on Saturday and was fairly unimpressed by what the <$200 boards offered. Missing basic stuff like debug LED and power, reset buttons - it's insane what you need to spend on the x570 boards to get diagnostics.That said, I'm a little more realistic with my expectations now. Don't know how much of an issue it is for the two Asus boards (Prime and TUF), but both will definitely have the chipset fan blocked by GPU.
The Gigabyte Aorus Elite doesn't have this issue, but it's also the most expensive at $190 (vs. $135 for the cheapest Asus, $170 for the TUF). It does have BIOS flashback (more relevant for 4000-series) and Intel LAN though.
I didn't know there was control over the chipset fan. That is definitely good to know!people need to get over the whole fan thing, just set it to silent in bios and ignore that it exists. you'll never reach the 68C threshold needed to get the fan to turn on in silent mode even under full pcie 4.0 load.
yeah initial bios didn't have the option but was added to the 184.108.40.206 bios for all the manufactures.I didn't know there was control over the chipset fan. That is definitely good to know!
pretty much.. GNSteve was the only one from my knowledge that actually got confirmation from board manufacture sources that the fan was an added requirement from AMD for the rare chance that the chipset had a runaway overtemp because the chipset has no temp protections or any way to down clock or shut the system down it's self due to high temps. this is also why even at idle it still pulls 7w since there's no idle P-states for the chipset and tops out at about 9-10w(per Der8auer's testing).The fan on my MSI creation board only even comes on at boot and then turns off. I have yet to see it spin once since I built this rig 3 months ago. I think the fan was a more in case than actually needed.
Keep the CPU.On the website I saw open box 3700x for $208 and then a 3800x for $229ish. Neither lasted more than 10 minutes before they disappeared. I finally broke down and grabbed a 3800x before they sold out but the reception when I got home with it was cold and bitter. Already have a 3500x and she's savvy enough to know it's more than adequate. Not looking forward to spending the summer in the Pit of Misery so I might return it. I have 15 days to negotiate my way out of hell.
If it would help you get out of the dog house I'd be willing to buy the 3800x. The Madison Heights MC store is a 12 hour round trip for me.Not looking forward to spending the summer in the Pit of Misery so I might return it. I have 15 days to negotiate my way out of hell.
but I want to keep both!Keep the CPU.
Return the wife.
She's mostly mad cause she thinks I forgot about Valentines Day, but I did not and I have a plan. If things go well by this evening I will have totally redeemed myself!If it would help you get out of the dog house I'd be willing to buy the 3800x. The Madison Heights MC store is a ten hour round trip for me.
That is some good customer service. Any time I buy an open-box item from MC, I make sure to open it up at the register (before I leave) to confirm that what I purchased is what is actually in the box. The tellers have never given me any grief about it, and it gives me more piece of mind.Well I finally got around to assembling the parts I got from Mc. Upon unboxing the $208 open box 3700x, I was greeted with a dozen or so bent pins, some of which looked very difficult to bend back. I was pretty bummed about it and went back to Mc to fight over it, but no fighting was necessary, I told them what happened and they gave me a brand new one sealed in the box. Didn't even need to pull my credit card out for refund/buy, they did an even exchange. Pretty good service.
the drive back was a pain in the ass. But yeah, they inspect some things but apparently not all. I also bought an open box/return gskill 750w power supply, and I could see on the sticker the return reason was no power, and the sticker over that said tested good. PSU works great. But maybe they just glanced at the pins and assumed they were fine. I know they are supposed to check them. Anyway, the 3700x I ended up with runs cinebench r20 @ 4.3GHz @ 1.30v, so seems like a decent chip if it holds stable on some stress tests.Good customer service to be certain, but damn don't they even inspect things before putting them back? I'm reminded of the good old days of Fry's where you'd be smart to avoid boxes with the dreaded "returned" sticker on it like the plague, even if there was a decent discount on it, because if you've ever returned anything you know the "techs" knowledge base when making sure everything is there is quite low. Plus that 45+ minute drive (one way) was not something you wanted to repeat because the motherboard had bent pins or something.