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wingfat

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I thought I would share my latest server build for folks looking for a relatively small server case that could accommodate
at least 10 3.5" drives. ( Currently 11 x 4TB HGST) My requirements required hot swappable bays accessible from the front. (I like blinking lights :)
After extensive searching and comparing cases, I decided on this iStar S-917 server case. I was a bit concerned about heat exhaust
but all temperatures are well within specs. (Drive temps with the HSGT's @ 40 degrees C - ambient temp @ 83 degrees F)
There is ample room within the case for all parts so it was easy to build. There are no welds holding the case together so it
can actually be taken completely apart. Although not completely silent, the fan noise in negligible. I tried replacing the fans
in the Supermicro racks and the system became silent. I opted however to stick with the stock fans as they pull twice as much
air. Searching the net for information on this case is sparse which is one of the reasons why I posted this. The case actually comes with an aluminium front
door which I removed. The hardware latches and hinges are bare metal underneath once removed. I painted these small areas with black touch up paint. The USB 2.0 connector was replaced with a USB 3.0 connector at the front top. The system is running FreeNAS with ZFS @ 37TB and one spare.



1 x iStarUSA S-917 Black Aluminum / Steel Tower Compact Stylish mini-ITX Tower
1 x iStarUSA T-7-SA 1 x 5.25" Bay Military Series SATA Mobile Rack - OEM
11 x HGST Deskstar NAS H3IKNAS40003272SN (0S03664) 4TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" High-Performance Hard ...
1 x Intel Xeon E3-1225 v5 SkyLake 3.3 GHz LGA 1151 80W BX80662E31225V5 Server Processor
1 x ASRock E3C236D2I Mini ITX Server Motherboard LGA 1151 Intel C236
2 X M391A2K43BB1-CPB 16GB DDR4-2133 ECC UDIMM 2RX8 1.2V -Samsung- (Memory.net)
1 X ATX 550W Power supply
1 x Noctua NH-D9L 92mm SSO2 Low-profile Premium CPU Cooler, NF-A9 PWM Fans
1 X Phanteks 500-1500RPM, PWM Frame/Blades, 12025, 120mm Case Fan Retail Cooling PH-F120XP_BK Black/White
1 X StarTech.com USB3SPNLAFHD 2 Port Panel Mount USB 3.0 Cable - USB A to Motherboard Header Cable F/F
2 X Supermicro CSE-M35T-1B Mobile Rack (Black)
1 X IBM SERVERAID M1015 ADAPTER PCI-E 2.0 X8 RAID CONTROLLER CARD 46M0861-LOW P
1 X ADATA USA Premier SP600 2.5-Inch 64 GB SATA III Synchronous NAND SSD ASP600S3-64GM-C
 
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Ranulfo

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Nice build Wingfat. That just may be the case for me for one of my server builds.
 

Trimlock

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Is there a cheaper place to get this case? I see it going for $200 in a lot of places.
 

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added another 24TB



brings me up to 72x 2TB drives
 

TeeJayHoward

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I'm curious - With HDD prices finally dropping and capacities increasing, why did you go with 2TB drives?
 

86 5.0L

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yeah, thats a bit overboard, i think. A few 8TB drives would pay off in the power savings alone haha
 

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Storage has grown rapidly in the two years since my post on the first page. Added a bunch to my colo (only counting personal use below). All said and done, ~400TB currently I think?

Primary colo server (bottom of rack):
Supermicro 216E16
Supermicro X10SDV-4C-TLN2F and 8gb ECC RAM
Transcend 32gb SSD
Areca 1882i
24 x 4TB 2.5" Seagate

Secondary colo server (middle of rack):
Supermicro 847E1
Supermicro X8DT3-F with Xeon L5630 and 8gb ECC RAM
Intel 320 40gb SSD
Areca 1880i
26 x 2TB 3.5" Hitachi
10 x 1TB 3.5" Hitachi

Home server #1:
Supermicro 846E16
No board at the moment as it's just being used as a SAS expander
Areca 1882x
24 x 2TB 3.5" Hitachi

Home server #2:
Synology DS2415+
12 x 6TB 3.5" Hitachi helium

Home server #3:
Infortrend EonNAS Pro 850
8 x 6TB 3.5" WD

Consolidating a bunch at the moment, so I'll eventually go down to a single file server at the datacenter and home (have everything mirrored between the two sites). Have another ~60 drives in boxes at home that aren't in use too.

 

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I'm curious - With HDD prices finally dropping and capacities increasing, why did you go with 2TB drives?
because that's the largest drive my array supports

yeah, thats a bit overboard, i think. A few 8TB drives would pay off in the power savings alone haha
would take about 5.5 years for the power savings to surpass the difference in drive cost... so.... no
 

Irockzz

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a little update
2x Dell 2100's 2x Xeon x5650 - 112Gb ram - 850 evo boot - 12x 3TB Red's Raid 6
3x Dell r420 2x Xeon x5570 - 32GB ram 4x 1,5Tb Raid 0

 

Machupo

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No issues so far (I switched to these a couple months ago) -- they were, in fact, shucked from externals (well, I don't know about four of them -- got the bare drives off of ebay and haven't bothered to check the warranty status). Speeds are fine (no issues w/ multiple plex HD streams), and I only resilvered when I was testing the system initially.
 

m0po

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The parts for my new NAS finally came this week and it's all successfully passed burn-in.

Raw storage - 36TB (6 x 6TB raidz2)
Actual storage - 21.8TB

Case: Fractal Design Node 304
Motherboard: ASRock E3C224D2I
CPU: Intel Core i3-4160
RAM: Kingston KVR13E9K2/16I
PSU: Corsair CX600M Modular
OS Disk: SanDisk Cruzer Fit 16GB
Storage Disks: 6 x Western Digital Red 6TB WD60EFRX
OS: FreeNAS

This is an upgrade from a Synology DS413 with 4 x 3TB Hitachi in RAID5. There's a big jump in cost from a 4-bay Synology to one that takes 6 drives, so I build the above for AU$850 without disks.

The case is a little cramped and is pretty bad for cable management, but I knew that before I purchased it. It's only marginally bigger in volume than the Synology DS413.
Well, time for an upgrade!

Raw storage - 60TB (10 x 6TB raidz2)
Actual storage - 43.6TB

Case: Lian-Li PC-Q26B
Motherboard: Supermicro X10SDV-4C-7TP4F
CPU: Xeon-D 1518
RAM: Kingston KVR21E15D8/8 x 2 (16GB)
PSU: Silverstone SX600-G
OS Disk: Intel 600p 128GB
Storage Disks: 10 x Western Digital Red 6TB WD60EFRX
OS: FreeBSD

PSU had to be SFX as the motherboard is a bit too big for the case. Loving the case though!



 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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^ Very clean build. I need to up my game soon - my current dual 128TB builds are kinda holdovers from the better part of a decade ago :S
 

m0po

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^ Very clean build. I need to up my game soon - my current dual 128TB builds are kinda holdovers from the better part of a decade ago :S
thanks! i wish i could've routed the 24pin and 8pin but theres just not enough room. even tried with extenders, doesnt work :(
 

mstrzyze

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Those 4tb WD you are running in netapp ds4243 shelf?(Looking at caddy)

If yes where you connect that..just to PC?
 

eptesicus

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Update to #202.




7xSVR01
Primary NAS and VMs (DC, Apps & Services, Downloads, WSUS, Monitoring, VPN, and Testing)

Total Storage: 69.36 TB

OS: Windows Server 2016
Case: Supermicro SC846E16-R1200B
PSU: Redundant 920W PWS-920P-1R 80PLUS Platinum (quieter over stock 1200W's)
Mobo: ASRock E3C224-4L ATX
CPU: Intel E3-1241v3 3.5GHz
RAM: 32 GB Kingston 4x8 GB DDR3 ECC Unbuffered KVR16E11/8
RAID: IBM M5015 w/ BBU
SSD: 120 GB Samsung 850 Evo - OS
SSD: 250 GB Samsung 850 Evo - VMs
HDD: 14x 4 TB HGST NAS (Raid 5) - storage pool
HDD: 4x 1 TB HGST Deskstar (Raid 5 w/ Hot Spare) - VM data pool
HDD: 3x 3 TB Mixed Models (Raid 5) - temporary data pool
Notes: I've added 2 more 4TB drives since the last posted on this thread and upgraded the host OS to Server 2016.


7xSVR02
Data Backup and VMs (TS, Nextcloud, Veeam/Allway Sync)

Total Storage: 58.71 TB

OS: Windows Server 2016
Case: Supermicro SC846E16-R1200B
PSU: Redundant 920W PWS-920P-1R 80PLUS Platinum (quieter over stock 1200W's)
Mobo: ASRock E3C224 ATX
CPU: Intel E3-1241v3 3.5GHz
RAM: 32 GB Kingston 4x8 GB DDR3 ECC Unbuffered KVR16E11/8
RAID: IBM M5015 w/ BBU
SSD: 120 GB Samsung 840 Evo - OS
HDD: 14x 4 TB HGST NAS (Raid 6) - backup pool

HDD: 4x 320 GB Mixed Models (Raid 10) - VMs
HDD: 3x 500 GB Mixed Models (Raid 5) - VM data pool
Notes: I replaced the motherboard, CPU, and RAM with almost identical hardware with 7xSVR01. The OS was upgraded to 2016, and I added 12x 4TB HGST NAS drives for backing up 7xSVR01. I'm using Veeam to backup my VMs and Allway Sync to backup my data.

Total storage between the 2? 128 TB


I just moved to the country and somehow qualified for 1 GbE fiber internet. I'm running out of space and need to keep adding more HDDs to my servers... The downside to this is the reconstruction rate taking upwards of 10 days to expand the arrays. I wish I could just buy a large lot of drives to expand all at once, but right now, I'm just buying 2 HDDs a month.

I have some Mellanox 10GbE cards coming in the mail from eBay that'll help in the transfer speed between the two servers. I'm anxious for 10GbE to become more affordable to consumers.


What else is new? I built a new firewall to replace the Mikrotik.

7xFW
Firewall running OPNsense. No real storage here... But I love this little firewall.

Model: Asus RS200-E9-PS2-F
OS: FreeBSD 11.0 running OPNsense 17.1.8
CPU: Intel i3-7100 3.90GHz
RAM: 8GB Crucial 2x4GB
SSD: 128GB ADATA SU800
 
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FLECOM

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Those 4tb WD you are running in netapp ds4243 shelf?(Looking at caddy)

If yes where you connect that..just to PC?
yep, have 4x netapp ds4243 expanders attached to an IBM x3650 M3 (2x Adaptec 5085 gives me 4x 8088 external SAS ports)

also adding some more drives :D

 
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Zepher

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I feel so tiny now, lol.

HAL-9000 (Editing/Encoding Workstation)
2TB WD Green 5400rpm
2TB WD Green 5400rpm
2TB Samsung F4 5400rpm
4TB Seagate 5400rpm
250GB SSD Crucial

10.25TB
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HAL-X100 (Gaming Rig)
2TB WD My Book 5400rpm
2TB WD Black 7200rpm
4TB WD Black 7200rpm
8TB WD Red 5400rpm
512GB SSD Crucial

16.5TB
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Plex Server (Home Media Server)
2TB Samsung F4 5400rpm
2TB Samsung F4 5400rpm
3TB Seagate 7200rpm
4TB WD Green 5400rpm
4TB WD Green 5400rpm
4TB WD Red 5400rpm
250GB SSD Crucial

19.25TB
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Matrox (Burst Coin Mining Rig)
2TB WD Green 5400rpm
2TB WD Green 5400rpm
4TB WD Black 7200rpm
4TB Toshiba 7200rpm
250GB SSD Crucial

12.25TB
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58.25TB Total Drive Space
 

Zarathustra[H]

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I just finished my storage upgrade. Pretty happy with the results.

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Doesn't come close to touching some of the extreme storage setups some of you have on here though!

My 12x old 4TB WD Red drives have gone into a spare server and will be used for offsite backup.

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ashman

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My backup server currently has this much in total storage, you can also see how much I've used and got left, it's running unRAID.


 

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unbelievable on some of the setups in here.. the only problem with this much storage: how do you back up that shit? i'm assuming prioritize on what you deem necessary to back up...
 

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unbelievable on some of the setups in here.. the only problem with this much storage: how do you back up that shit? i'm assuming prioritize on what you deem necessary to back up...
I have a secondary ~100TB file server at a different location to back up my primary one (with a site-to-site VPN). The really important stuff has either one or two more copies on top of that (only a couple TB total). I have a SLC based USB flash drive for a safe deposit box as well which houses a copy of my legal documents and KeePass.

Duplicate file servers and the likes might be viewed as overkill, but if you've ever experienced large data loss, you won't want to go through that ever again. A lot of my data is replaceable, just a real pain to do, so I'm paying a premium to save myself all the work. Safe deposit box costs very little too.
 

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unbelievable on some of the setups in here.. the only problem with this much storage: how do you back up that shit? i'm assuming prioritize on what you deem necessary to back up...
As I hinted at in my post above, I just upgraded to 12x10TB drives in my ZFS Pool. I took the 12x4TB drives I already had and put them in an old server I had kicking around which will be going offsite for offsite backups.

Now you'll note that my backup capacity is only roughly 40% of my total capacity and this is fine.

You don't have to backup everything. I maintain different folders for different things. Irreplaceable files (my photo backups, tax records, etc. etc.)_ are all in folders that get backed up. My media library is all replaceable (though it would be a pain in the butt). Right now I have enough space to back it up, so I'm doing that, but if I run low on space I'll drop it.

My 15TB DVR/PVR folder of recorded shows off of TV is disposable. I don't back it up at all.

Etc. etc.
 

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^ Very nice! How have those fat 4TB 2.5" Seagates been holding out so far?
Did you shuck them from externals (eg. Backup Plus)?
Another year and no issues with the drives. Just bought another 24 of them and am rebuilding into a custom short depth 2U case. Should triple my storage density (TB/L).
 

Machupo

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what case are you using?
Found a relatively blank 15" 2U case, piece that together with the front end of an ebay supermicro sc-216 with some selective de-riveting/riveting. Toss in a platinum flex atx psu, a mish-mash of internals from the old NAS and the ebay special. Hopefully it works, lol.
 

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yep, have 4x netapp ds4243 expanders attached to an IBM x3650 M3 (2x Adaptec 5085 gives me 4x 8088 external SAS ports)

also adding some more drives :D
lol didn't see that picture until now.. hope you bought them at the store like i did, pretty sure the lady thought i was nuts when i asked how many 8TB WD easystore drives they had in the back and said there was 14 of them. but the best reaction from her was when i said i'd take them all.. she kept asking me if i was sure i needed that many external drives. :p at the end of the day i didn't need them and actually gave away and sold a bunch of them to people. but hey it made my dream come true seeing it say 101TB free.. honestly never thought i'd see 100TB of storage be considered affordable this soon.
 

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Another year and no issues with the drives. Just bought another 24 of them and am rebuilding into a custom short depth 2U case. Should triple my storage density (TB/L).

I've thrown those 4TB drives away, replaced them with 5TB drives. Realized that these 5TB are great in read speeds, awful in write speeds. Those went away and I have an 8x2.5" hole in my case with no drives to put in there.
 

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Another year and no issues with the drives. Just bought another 24 of them and am rebuilding into a custom short depth 2U case. Should triple my storage density (TB/L).
I find it interesting that 2.5" drives are moving into the mass storage market now.

I've always been a little. It uncomfortable with them.

How do you find the array performs with them compared to traditional 3.5" drives?

When I recently upgraded my ZFS box, I went with 12x 10TB 7200rpm Seagate Enterprise drives. I wanted to make sure that the pool was responsive.

If 10k rpm drives still existed in the top size tiers, I would have seriously considered them.
 
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