GTX 1660Ti reviews out

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  1. cybereality

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    Yeah, Tom's graph format for frame time and variance is really handy and does visualize the data in an easy to see fashion.
     
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    hahahaha i had to respond to this and speak for all the proles, peons, serfs, and mommas boys. i recently scrapped together enough to upgrade from an FX-6300/HD7950(2011) to a RYZEN 2600/GTX1060. when you eat ramen and live in the dumpster, you wait for the 200+% jumps before you upgrade or until all of the dust and dripping thermal paste finally ignites and sets your cats tail on fire. im on cloud 9 right now- i can SEE everything now!! !!! Metro Last Light looks like rEaL LiFeeee!!!
     
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    120w is silent gaming territory.
    definitely a better deal than the 2060, and a 590 killer.
    Vega 56 OCs way more, enough to handle some 4k with freesync. i saw Red dragon 56s going for $329 on newegg
     
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    If only!
     
  5. filip

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    I called a $300 dollar 2050ti NVIDIA disappointed me. Like is AMD even going to release a good product at this point? or What is NVIDIA doing, $200 for a 1550ti and $280 for the 1660ti? or a 2060ti?
    I'm lost in this mess.
     
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    Were we ever given an explanation as to why this was called a 1660 and not an 1160?
     
  7. Snowdog

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    Why does it need an explanation? 11xx was just a rumor.
     
  8. cybereality

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    It does seem to confuse things a little bit. First jumping to 20, then going for 16, but what do I know.
     
  9. Dayaks

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    I think staying away from 20xx was smart and more transparent. If they did 2050ti and it didn’t have RT there would be tons of threads calling it decieving... probably a good thing they named it something that brings attention to “what’s different”.
     
  10. cybereality

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    To be honest, I think this card looks awesome for mainstream gamers. It's not high end, and it's not supposed to be.

    First, let us do a fair comparison. The GTX 1660 Ti is essentially the next version of the GTX 1060 6GB.

    The 1060 6GB came out in July 2016 at an MSRP of $249. The 1660 Ti came out February 2019 for $279.

    So that's about two and a half years later and with an increase of $30. If we consider inflation, the 1060 6GB would be $261 in today's dollars, making it only an $18 difference.

    Still within the same general price range, and certainly not the extravagant hike we saw with the RTX cards.

    However, the important thing to consider is the performance improvement. According to multiple sites, we are looking 30%+ performance boost, or even in the 50% range on some optimized titles.

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    https://www.techspot.com/review/1797-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-ti/

    In previous times, getting 30% improvement for the same price, generation to generation, was the norm, and that has been commonly referred to when blasting the RTX prices, yet we're seeing this here with the GTX 1660 Ti.

    Then if we look at Steam stats, over 60% of gamers are running 1080p as their primary resolution, many others even lower, so an affordable 1080p card has a huge market.

    Also looking at Steam stats, the most popular GPU in use is the GTX 1060, followed by the 1050 Ti and 1050. The GTX 1070 is only #4 on the list, then you have lesser cards like the 960, 970, and 750 Ti.

    This 1660 Ti card would be a MASSIVE upgrade for these mainstream consumers. For those people on a 960, for example, it would be over double performance. For $279. That's huge!

    Even for 1060 6GB owners, there is a decent benefit to upgrade. Look at this 19 game average:

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    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-review/

    You see while the 1060 6GB is good at 1080p Ultra settings, it is just making the cut. While the 1660 Ti is maintaining over 60fps minimums and a comfortable average fps.

    Then if we drop down to Medium settings, we are looking at a card that can handle high refresh 120Hz games at 1080p. I see HFR monitors in the $200 range, which are affordable and attainable with this new graphics card.

    It's really looking pretty good to me, and I think it will be a big seller for Nvidia. I have one coming on Monday, will do some tests and report back what I find and if it's actually worth it. Just my 2 cents.
     
  11. cybereality

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    GamersNexus actually asked Nvidia and got a response.

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    NVidia is crazy.
     
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    It should sell well. Modest upgrade from 1060 or RX580. Does it do Freesync?

    I still think a lot of 1060/RX580 owners will hold on to those for a bit longer as they still work great for mainstream 1080p gaming and even more depending on the game of course.

    $250 would have been great but who am I kiddin'.....
     
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    I just found that some of GTX 1660 Ti were not fit as merchandise. (Because they didn't came with working driver on DVD.) Looks like NVidia didn't want to leak performance before release, and kinda violated the law. People without ability to download driver are hosed.
     
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    This card already have 1500MHz on core and 2060 have like 1365MHz and both will OC to basically the same levels as any other Turing chip so if OC is considered performance difference is pretty big. Then 1660Ti does not have RTX features.

    Is this like 70-80 bucks that much of a difference to get all overall inferior product?
     
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    People who don't have the ability to download a driver probably don't give a damn about a 1660ti or any discreet card. But always there will be that one snowflake out there that will make a issue of it.
     
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    Yup, and that person might already have its sight at buying this card just for this very reason
     
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    Great card but stupid name imo.
     
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    For the price/performance gotta say the 1660ti is pretty damn good. I guess my only complaint is only having 6GB of vram, but at 1080p thats good enough.

    Good card overall
     
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    It may be a real issue on the 2060 when doing RT. But the 1660 with no RT HW, even at 1440p it's enough. People scare monger too much over 6GB.
     
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    You don’t buy a 2060 to use RT. It’s too damn slow for it.
     
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    Thank you araxie and happymedium!!
     
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  24. cybereality

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    I liked this review:



    Also, Metro running at 1440p Ultra and looks playable. At 1080p or High settings it would probably be at 60fps.

     
  25. XoR_

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    This card is the revelation world needed!!!!!111
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    It have almost exactly the same performance/price as RTX 2060 and less overclocking headroom but removing RTX features surely made all it so much better because now it is not "slow" at ray-tracing. It cannot do it at all.
    Heil to it and its spiritual ancestor GF4 MX440
     

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    It seems whenever people go cherry picking for results to make some wonky argument, Tech Power Up is one of the primary sources of wonky data.

    Price/perf slide from HWUB/TS:

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    Just my opinion, but I don't see much difference from what you posted to what XoR posted. Other than you are comparing @1080 while he was @1440. They both pretty much say the same thing to me and at 13 cents more per frame, why not get the better performing card?
     
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    Framerates over time looked a little ugly in FC5. However, they were running dx12 instead of dx11 such as in Tom's review where it ran much smoother.
     
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    At 1080p techpowerup perf/price chart is almost exactly the same:
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    BTW. $2.69 and $2.96 is almost exactly the same level anyway...
    For no RTX features they could do better and price 1660Ti at 250$ then perf/price would be sufficiently improved to praise this card so much... just sayin...
     
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    It almost holds 60fps @ 1440p. My relatives use 1080p monitors so the 2060 is actually a valid card for RT and 1080p imo. Between the 1660ti and 2060 I’d go 2060. I am going to see what Navi brings though. $350 is a bit much to drop on relatives lol.

     
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    Do people actually shop this way?
     
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    This is the first real jump in performance with such a low price/$ in a long time. The GTX 1060 release at around $300. This is a full tier above and it launched at a lower price.

    We can make post after post in how this should be $20 cheaper, but this is getting way to picky. Nvidia is hardly gouging people at this price. It is ok to make a small profit, comrade.

    The real joke was the RX590 ie RX480 v3.0 that launched at $280.
     
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    Any rumor on when the 1660 non Ti and the 1650 / Ti are due?
     
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    Should have been named i666 to represent NVidia source and methods :)

    First Turing card that is good perf per buck. 6gb is weakest part of the card.
     
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    While it's better value than the RTX cards, it's still a higher performing card for a higher price. This should cost $250 maximum, a 1060 replacement. A bad one at that, as it only brings you to 1070 level, instead of 1080 level which is what historically it would've done. Oh well, another disappointing card. Par for the course these days.
     
  37. cybereality

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    No disappointing card. Only disappointed person.
     
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    If GTX 1660Ti have good perf per buck then RTX 2060 must also have good perf per buck because it is basically the same level

    Not 20 bucks but 30 ;)
    Still this card will sell like hot cupcakes.

    AMD is in thechnological hellhole right now.
    They seems to be not able to deliver any new architecture and many improvements they say there are does not seem to do anything - Fury and Vega with the same clocks perform nearly identical despite Fury having half the memory.

    Navi being CGN doesn't really fill my heart with confidence that this chip will do any better. It will still run hot and deliver barely adequate performance for sure.
    With this kind of competition NV can do whatever the hell they want...
     
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    Very true. I think the RTX 2060 got heat due to ray-tracing not performing well (at least on BFV at launch, there was a patch and Metro looks better I think). The performance and price are not bad.
     
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    And a $350+ card with 6gb of ram. I also think those that buy at the lower prices also in general keep there cards a lot longer. Still think a Vega is a bettter buy than a 2060 by a significant amount.
     
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