Gsync 4k 144hz HDR monitor prices 'released'

Newegg usually updates orders around 12PM PST if I recall. It's been awhile since I ordered from them though, so not sure if that changed. Mine hasn't shipped.
 
Lmah2x said:
Predator X27 listed at Microcenter, it appears to be available June 8th. Tempted to cancel my Newegg preorder and just wait the week.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/507686/Predator_X27_27_IPS_HDR_LED_Monitor
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Oh nice, MC has fantastic return policy. Only problem with switching to MC is there is no guarantee your store will get one. Even if they did, who's to say someone won't beat you to it. Maybe if you talk to your store you could reserve one...

GameLifter said:
Has anyone's Predator X27 shipped from Newegg yet?
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Nothing yet. But with Newegg being PST combined with they typically ship later in the day, we may not know anything until the evening.
 
GameLifter said:
Has anyone's Predator X27 shipped from Newegg yet?
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Ohhh wait....you ACTUALLY thought these were going to ship by June 1'st

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Fuck, for $2k I could get a 2017 55" OLED 4k, surround sound system, and a 144HZ G-sync 1440P monitor. Call me when this is about half the current price.
 
[21CW]killerofall said:
Fuck, for $2k I could get a 2017 55" OLED 4k, surround sound system, and a 144HZ G-sync 1440P monitor. Call me when this is about half the current price.
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Dude you could have easily raised the cash in one weekend....next time you cum with me and I show you how!

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MistaSparkul said:
If you're referring to burn in, that's an issue that is actually avoidable. While with IPS FALD blooming there isn't a way to avoid that, at least not with 384 dimming zones.
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Burn in is not avoidable unless you have non-static picture and low brightness. Even then you are prolonging the inevitable. It is inherent. The blue oleds are also larger and only 30% of the output for same given area due to this. So you have uneven pixel sizes to overcome it. They still don't last as long. Look up any late model phone with oled and you will find burn-in cases.
Oled has a long way to go and solving the blue lifetime issue is priority.
I would suggest that laser is still the way to go ultimately. We can focus then down to dot pitches of micrometers and no brigtness limitations, 6 gorilllion contrast ratio etc. Only limitation is scanning, like a crt.
 
N4CR said:
Burn in is not avoidable unless you have non-static picture and low brightness. Even then you are prolonging the inevitable. It is inherent. The blue oleds are also larger and only 30% of the output for same given area due to this. So you have uneven pixel sizes to overcome it. They still don't last as long. Look up any late model phone with oled and you will find burn-in cases.
Oled has a long way to go and solving the blue lifetime issue is priority.
I would suggest that laser is still the way to go ultimately. We can focus then down to dot pitches of micrometers and no brigtness limitations, 6 gorilllion contrast ratio etc. Only limitation is scanning, like a crt.
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You are describing old OLED tech. LG uses filters for the blue. I have had my C6 now since new, used it as desktop for work productivity 8+ hours daily and don't have any issues. However, I hide the task bar, hide icons, have a dynamic desktop background and wear a condom every time I use it!
 
l88bastard said:
You are describing old OLED tech. LG uses filters for the blue. I have had my C6 now since new, used it as desktop for work productivity 8+ hours daily and don't have any issues. However, I hide the task bar, hide icons, have a dynamic desktop background and wear a condom every time I use it!
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Forgot they were doing cfa/colour filter array.
Fair point.
 
l88bastard said:
Saw this posted by twinkies on the ROG forums...... Linus initial impressions......woooo looks awesome!!!!

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*you just beat me, darn
So apparently if you go over 98 Hz, you start to loose chroma.

Still not worth it to me at $2k and would likely need to set it at 96Hz (3*24) when gaming.
 
[21CW]killerofall said:
*you just beat me, darn
So apparently if you go over 98 Hz, you start to loose chroma.

Still not worth it to me at $2k and would likely need to set it at 96Hz (3*24) when gaming.
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Its all a matter of perspective.....2gs is alot of money and the penalty price for early adopters....but I think the current $700 going rate for Crapola gaming displays is more expensive on the eyes!
 
l88bastard said:
Saw this posted by twinkies on the ROG forums...... Linus initial impressions......woooo looks awesome!!!!

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Whilst it's only an initial impression, I think I could live with that monitor. Now we just have to wait on cards to actually get the most out of it.
 
Spending 2 grand on not only a microscopic 27" monitor but one that can't do 4k @ 144hz @ 4:4:4...

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Spending 2 grand on not only a microscopic 27" monitor but one that can't do 4k @ 144hz @ 4:4:4...
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It can. Only when in 10-bit color and HDR does the refresh rate either drop down to 98 Hz or you can keep 10-bit color + HDR and run 144 Hz with 4:2:2 chroma.

Right now with HDMI 2.0 you have to run your 4K games at 60 Hz /10-bit color at 4:2:2 anyway and it's not that big of a deal.
 
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Spending 2 grand on not only a microscopic 27" monitor but one that can't do 4k @ 144hz @ 4:4:4...

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Dude, I already used that Meme....literally only 15 posts before you....man that's like some sort of international violation of teh internetz.... why didn't you go with something more contemporary like the Brandon Fraser
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or perhaps I could talk you into something a little less Gauche like a Denzel!
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l88bastard said:
Saw this posted by twinkies on the ROG forums...... Linus initial impressions......woooo looks awesome!!!!

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Jesus, they wasted money on those light things in the back and the stand. Someone actually had to develop a firmware feature that changes RGB lighting in the back of a freakin' monitor! That has got to be literally the stupidest tech idea I've seen this year.

The color space limitation could potentially be annoying. While I can't tell a difference between 120 and 144 Hz and 4:2:2 vs 4:4:4 in gaming, on the desktop I would rather use the full color space. I tried running my ASUS PG278Q at 100 Hz and there is a small drop in cursor motion and scrolling fluidity compared to 120 or 144 Hz but it's still a lot better than running at 60 Hz. I wonder if there is any way to set this up so that games use 4:2:2 144 Hz and desktop uses 4:4:4 98 Hz or if you have to keep switching between the two. Will wait for proper reviews to see if the 98 Hz 4:4:4 only applies to using HDR.

I'm also a bit wary about the "overclocked" 144 Hz settings and if it will cause issues with image quality.
 
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Ya the largest jump in motion/fluidity is from 60 Hz to about 90-100 Hz. 60 Hz is just well below the threshold for good motion. That's why VR uses 90 Hz as the benchmark. Once you reach that, anything above is just icing on the cake. 60 Hz is just a cancer.
 
Vega said:
It can. Only when in 10-bit color and HDR does the refresh rate either drop down to 98 Hz or you can keep 10-bit color + HDR and run 144 Hz with 4:2:2 chroma.

Right now with HDMI 2.0 you have to run your 4K games at 60 Hz /10-bit color at 4:2:2 anyway and it's not that big of a deal.
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For non-HDR games how high can you go with 8 bit color at 4:4:4? The 96/98hz at 10bit suggest that 120/122hz should be possible from an available bandwidth perspective assuming the monitors firmware can support the mode.
 
Supposedly the DP 1.4 G-Sync module uses dynamic stream compression, which would allow 144 Hz 4:4:4 8-bit SDR. That has been confirmed by Marshall at ASUS but then brought into question in the Linus video. I'll certainly clarify everything on Wed when mine comes in.
 
Money can't buy quality indeed. There's already reports of dead/stuck pixels on this thing too. Whether you spend $800 or $2000 there is just no escaping from the lottery I guess.
 
RMA, rinse, repeat. It's still a consumer-grade product. Even for $2k they're not going to pretend you aren't just playing games on this thing.
 
l88bastard said:
Probably dropped from 15 feet during shipping. The same thing probably happened to mine and caused the upside down Gsync-HDR sticker
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The sticker was upside down to indicate distress and extreme danger, similar to flying the US flag upside down. The fan noise is actually being caused by a distress note placed inside the monitor in a way that would cause an annoyance and draw the owners attention to it...


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Astral Abyss said:
The sticker was upside down to indicate distress and extreme danger, similar to flying the US flag upside down. The fan noise is actually being caused by a distress note placed inside the monitor in a way that would cause an annoyance and draw the owners attention to it...


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striker444 said:
To anyone on the fence about the ACER and ASUS monitors, DON'T BUY THEM. This fan is a ticking timebomb. I just got mine today and well, watch the video it says everything.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=13U...AQUftIhGv1Gxbt
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Just because your's did this doesn't mean it's a widespread issue. Do you have other examples? On the other hand, maybe this is what the recall Lmah2x said Microcenter mentioned is about?

https://hardforum.com/threads/acer-x27-4k-144hz-hdr-gsync.1930901/page-4#post-1043664960
Lmah2x said:
I spoke with Microcenter today and they said the displays were recalled, has anyone heard anything about this? I'm thinking I was just talking to someone who didn't want to answer questions though and told me to check back in a few weeks. I will check back Friday most likely when they originally said they will have stock. I remember when I got my X34 it was recalled, but I ended up keeping it anyways.
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Vega said:
Supposedly the DP 1.4 G-Sync module uses dynamic stream compression, which would allow 144 Hz 4:4:4 8-bit SDR. That has been confirmed by Marshall at ASUS but then brought into question in the Linus video. I'll certainly clarify everything on Wed when mine comes in.
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It's Friday dude, did you get your new toy or not?

OR are you just too distracted by it's awesomeness to comment :D
 
I got my X27, so far everything is great. 0 Dead Pixels, Uniformity is good. HDR looks nice, though there is the haloing, but it isn't that noticeable at all. The most annoying thing about the display is the fan is audible, it is located right behind the VESA 100x100 mount, saw it when I put the display on my arm. Thinking of taking it apart and seeing if I can replace the fan with something quieter. Will see how things go without touching it though. Overall it is an impressive gaming display, the best we have access to at the moment.
 
I can see these displays being superior to 1440p displays in battleroyale games even games like battlefield, not so much a game like CS:GO though. Played some Fortnite and it is significantly easier to spot people at a distance than my X34.
 
Lmah2x said:
I can see these displays being superior to 1440p displays in battleroyale games even games like battlefield, not so much a game like CS:GO though. Played some Fortnite and it is significantly easier to spot people at a distance than my X34.
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Even simple things like desktop usage, productivity software, web surfing & hard core porno are better on the X27!
 
gan7114 said:
Too late, we already had stickergate yesterday over in the Acer X27 thread. :p
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Vega said:
Ya the largest jump in motion/fluidity is from 60 Hz to about 90-100 Hz. 60 Hz is just well below the threshold for good motion. That's why VR uses 90 Hz as the benchmark. Once you reach that, anything above is just icing on the cake. 60 Hz is just a cancer.
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I have an friend who works for Unity. According to the VR hardware/platform engineers he's talked with recently, while you and I might be fine with refreshrates as low as that; getting it smooth enough to help people who've got motion sickness problems with current implementations the refresh rate needs to get up to around 240hz with an equally low latency pipeline to get the images displayed soon enough.
 
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