pendragon1
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"gpu prices so high, gamers venture outside"
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I'll take Things that Never Happened for $1000."gpu prices so high, gamers venture outside"
I don't think that's what he was saying at all.
When a lot of this started people said things like "don't like these prices? Well you don't have to be a gamer. It's a luxury," when it's more than that, and not a luxury.
Now we're on the cusp of a series of international economic issues that are poised to permanently damage PC gaming, PC building, and PC ownership in general. So maybe we shouldn't act like this is just prices going up on a luxury, but address some of the larger underlying problems that will expand well beyond how much money it takes to play Call of Duty.
I agree with this, I've lost almost all interest since I can't have what I want and it's ridiculously overpriced. It's now time to put down the keyboard and mouse and look at other things like getting on the bike and enjoying the outdoors.
e-peen....how proud they were of it.....the affordable PC should be an IGP based system on a non OC board. That's already where it was heading before.
Prices won't come back down because they should not. Prices are going to keep going up.
That's exacrly what I did. Many other hobbies to enjoy life. Not ball & chained to a single one.I agree with this, I've lost almost all interest since I can't have what I want and it's ridiculously overpriced. It's now time to put down the keyboard and mouse and look at other things like getting on the bike and enjoying the outdoors.
At the same time I agree with this also. I bought a 2080ti Seahawk EK-X when it was released for 1200 & everyone told me it was a mistake and wait etc..... look who's laughing now LOL with performance landing in between the 3070 & 3080 I can completely skip the 3000 series cards all together & not worry about any of this nonsense for another few years. So that would be 4-5 years of awesome performance and enjoying it every day. Worth every penny and would do it again!I don't care anymore. I was holding out for a while, but I couldn't take it and I blew $1,500 on a GPU from eBay.
At first I felt kind of bad, but I got to build my new computer and I am 100% happy with it. Not gonna let market forces dictate my life. You only live once.
Bingo, hit the nail on the head, rang the bell (I can't think if any more at the moment)I don't think that's what he was saying at all.
When a lot of this started people said things like "don't like these prices? Well you don't have to be a gamer. It's a luxury," when it's more than that, and not a luxury.
LOL I've heard of guilt by association but not guilt by GPU purchaseI don't care anymore. I was holding out for a while, but I couldn't take it and I blew $1,500 on a GPU from eBay.
At first I felt kind of bad ...
yup, just came from eBay and lowest priced GTX 970 is a STRIX model @ $175 free shipping. I paid around $220 same card back in late April 2021It almost seems like it might be cyclical at this point.
https://www.pcgamer.com/is-the-great-graphics-card-shortage-finally-ending/
I think I paid 199 dollars for my original PNY AGP 6800 256 MB at CompUSA back when they came out. It was quite a nice upgrade from my Geforce 3 (original non Ti model) that was $299 when I got it lol. The fan on the GF3 died so I bought a cheapo quadro and did a heatsink swap on it lol.I was looking at Radeon 6800 XT prices on eBay, and I noticed someone paid $161 for an *Nvidia* 6800 XT. LOL, people desperate.
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If you can't find a graphics card upgrade at a price you're willing to pay, just keep waiting, and maybe lower your resolution and detail settings in the meantime. The best way to get prices to come down is for PC gamers to simply refuse to pay the current high asking prices. Which obviously isn't working, because some people are apparently willing to do so. Are those people miners, gamers with deep pockets, or just impatient people? Yes. Yes, they are. Unfortunately, boycotts only work if a sufficient number of people are willing to abstain.
Despite the massive cut in memory bandwidth, the RX 6600 XT ends up tied with the old GTX 1080 Ti, and it uses about two-thirds as much power while doing so. It also nearly ties the Radeon VII and outperforms the RTX 3060 and RTX 2070 — at least in games that only use rasterization. So how much should a card like that cost in the latter part of 2021? Considering the old GTX 1080 Ti still sells, used, for $500 or more on eBay, with an average price of $575 over the past month, people will obviously be willing to pay a lot more than $300 or even $380 for a brand new RX 6600 XT.
worst behind us? not yet...
we'll have to wait(im lookin) for someone to compare to older gens. i thought the 5700 should have been in this one, figure its about the level the 6600 is.I don't know, I thought those scores looked okay. Especially for people on a 1060 or 580, or something, it would be meaningful upgrade.
The 6600 beats the 5700 at 1080pwe'll have to wait(im lookin) for someone to compare to older gens. i thought the 5700 should have been in this one, figure its about the level the 6600 is.
$200 mid-range is DEAD
That’s not entirely accurate. $200 will buy like $300 worth of hotel stays and like $400 worth of trans Atlantic flights.I feel like it's necessary to point out that $200 had a good run, but $200 won't buy $200's worth of anything anymore.
I just saw my first sale on Ryzen 5600Xs at microcenter for 50 under msrp last weekend, and that is before combo pricing. Not that you could realistically build for under 500 right this second, but it’s coming back. If crypto would just finally die in a fire, it would be right back to value video cards too.Also, clothing hasn't really changed cost. Got a Cyberpunk 2077 shirt at GameStop for $15.
And some tech has gotten cheaper. You can get some nice high refresh monitors for under $200, or like budget tablets for $100.
It's just that PC gaming has become this luxury thing, for better or worse. I mean, I remember when you could build a rig for $500. Those days are long gone and never coming back.
the $200 price point has always been the mid-range segment, historically....from the early 2000's...2010's and through recently.... a good run indeed..I feel like it's necessary to point out that $200 had a good run, but $200 won't buy $200's worth of anything anymore.
As long as there is a shortage of silicon companies have no motivation to use some of their precious resources on a card that doesn't have as much ROI$200 mid-range is DEAD
Unfortunately the new normal is here
I actually support the $70 price for next-gen games.
I wish but that wasn't the case last time I looked, at least to anywhere I'd want to go. Flights to Greece, Spain, Canary Islands, as well as Azores and several other Portuguese Islands were triple to quadruple what they normally are. Greece is of course on fire right now too so there might be some deals but it wasn't at the time.That’s not entirely accurate. $200 will buy like $300 worth of hotel stays and like $400 worth of trans Atlantic flights.
Sorry, westerns aren't my thing. But I heard Red Dead was really good.
We flew to see family in the states in June for 59/person on southwest, and those flights used to be ~129. The hotel was also so crazy cheap we couldn’t believe it. My wife has been watching flights to Ireland to see extended family, and those are running about 1/3 of what they were when we were looking in mid 2019 to travel spring 2020. I suppose each destination is different.I wish but that wasn't the case last time I looked, at least to anywhere I'd want to go. Flights to Greece, Spain, Canary Islands, as well as Azores and several other Portuguese Islands were triple to quadruple what they normally are. Greece is of course on fire right now too so there might be some deals but it wasn't at the time.
There are plenty of deals worldwide on hotels but that's kind of the flip side to supply issues right now on electronics due to the pandemic, lots of hotel capacity available right now because hotels can't suddenly become smaller but airlines are running at a reduced capacity and actually driving up prices in some cases.
GPU prices have been affected by the triple whammy of supply issues, increased gamer demand, as well as crypto. I don't think any of those have been solved but I do think they've all softened some so hopefully prices will start to drop down a bit over time. Unfortunately even with some luck supply and prices will likely stabilize about the same time that hype for the next gen starts to build up.
Same, I think the vanilla 6800 was around $200 if I recall. Even better, I'm guessing you were able to unmask the shaders to effectively make it a 6800 GT?I think I paid 199 dollars for my original PNY AGP 6800 256 MB at CompUSA back when they came out. It was quite a nice upgrade from my Geforce 3 (original non Ti model) that was $299 when I got it lol. The fan on the GF3 died so I bought a cheapo quadro and did a heatsink swap on it lol.
I actually support the $70 price for next-gen games.
Endgame hit the nail on the head. If your budget is around $200 for your GPU, get an APU or buy a used 980Ti.on the GPU front, I think the ~$150 card is basically replaced by the APU. You can get a 5700G now and basically handle all the esports, the old console ports, most of the back catalog, etc fine at 1080p.
It isn't really a western since it doesn't take place in the west, and isn't styled after a western. Well, not RDR2 at least. I know the first one was but RDR2 wasn't.
On a longer timeline, PCs have gotten cheaper as they become more common, and necessary. A basic PC in 1990 was about $2,000. Fancy would run up to $4,000. Not even adjusted for inflation, that's way more expensive than comparable PCs today.
And GPU prices are dropping. We'll see more of it, and either Nvidia will buckle and start competing on the value front, or Intel will. Either way, we're not on this track for good. And Intel will sell GPUs at a loss if they have to in order to recapture market share. Losing money to hold or take market share is a primary Intel strategy.