$380. that still seem high? my 5700 was $440CAN...
Yep. Will be riding Polaris until pricing gets sane; or wages increase 100%
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$380. that still seem high? my 5700 was $440CAN...
could be, could also be business decisions that look after the desires of the shareholders more so than that of potential customers too.I saw prices for all major targets P, X and RTX creep up this week fwiw...may be Covid resurgence is playing a part? Hard to believe we are over 10 months into this 'season'...
what card? you didnt quote anyone and the thread is about gpu prices...so, this card is really being marketed for whom? Business?
$380. that still seem high? my 5700 was $440CAN...
The MSRP for the evga ftw 3 is almost $900. People need to get off the Nvidia/AMD MSRP crap. Case is $160 at MC with no fans. You you got to add another $100ish for quality fans.This actually looks like a somewhat decent deal to me. As others noted, custom hard tubing and everything pretty much in place, just need to put your own CPU in. I'm assuming that part of the price is the custom water block on the GPU. On the other hand the MSRP of the 3080 is $699 apparently so you're paying roughly $1200 for the mobo, case, custom water loop, CPU block, GPU block (or does this have one? I don't know if only the CPU is water cooled, if so that kind of sucks), and PSU.
So let's break that down.
- Motherboard is 330$ right now on Amazon. $870 left.
- Someone quoted the price of the water loop at about $400. $470 left to account for.
- Case... is hard to put a price on. Let's say it's a higher end case in the $150 range, just looking at it visually. $320 left
- PSU is about $120 on Microcenter. I don't know if it's worth that much but $200 left
$200 for labor on a custom loop and assembly is somewhat reasonable. This is actually kind of smart, because a system like this is an easier way to avoid miners. They wouldn't want all of this nonsense and the system would be harder to sell off like this, but gamers get overcharged at most about $100-200 on the price of the system. Supposing that water cooling quote was actually accurate; I'm a little dubious about it.
Prices are going up and up for raw materials and memory prices keep spiking up.I saw prices for all major targets P, X and RTX creep up this week fwiw...may be Covid resurgence is playing a part? Hard to believe we are over 10 months into this 'season'...
Yeah, AMD and Nvidia really need to stop announcing MSRP pricing at their launch. Just hold up a big sign with a ? on it.People need to get off the Nvidia/AMD MSRP crap.
That is their MSRP. AiBs are not bound to it.Yeah, AMD and Nvidia really need to stop announcing MSRP pricing at their launch. Just hold up a big sign with a ? on it.
Where not talking about AiB's here. Everyone already knows theyre always overpriced. Well atleast I was, AiB's aren't Nvidia and AMD.That is their MSRP. AiBs are not bound to it.
Nvidia and AMD haven't changed their prices. Everyone that gets pissy about AiB prices aways bring up Nvidia/AMD MSRP.Where not talking about AiB's here. Everyone already knows theyre always overpriced. Well atleast I was, AiB's aren't Nvidia and AMD.
When they make their presentation and announce MSRP pricing, they sets the price in everyone's head of what they can expect to pay. They should stop doing it.
Where not talking about AiB's here. Everyone already knows theyre always overpriced. Well atleast I was, AiB's aren't Nvidia and AMD.
When they make their presentation and announce MSRP pricing, they sets the price in everyone's head of what they can expect to pay. They should stop doing it.
There was a distinct point in which upgrading GPUs no longer delivered dramatically better visuals, instead simply increasing fps at almost identical settings. Looking back at my gaming evolution from early 80s to present day, a lot of us are in that golden videogame generation that got to see graphics leap ahead in dramatic iterations every few years. For a kid coming into gaming today, is there even a dramatic wow factor that would deliver similar impressions from the jump of 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit 3d?I mean I went from a 3570k to a 5950x...
But I upgrade GPUs every 4 years
But im on a GT 1030 cause I sold my 2070 last August
Maybe not the huge jump as in the old days, but play Metro Exodus with full 4K HDR Ray-Tracing and it will blow you away.is there even a dramatic wow factor that would deliver similar impressions from the jump of 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit 3d?
Maybe not the huge jump as in the old days, but play Metro Exodus with full 4K HDR Ray-Tracing and it will blow you away.
The last GPU maker that tried that went bankrupt because of it I believe.They need to dump the aibs then and sell all the cards themselves, the difference in prices is insane.
Well, looks like the rumor mill was close this time. $400 was predicted a couple of weeks ago. $380, it better beat my 2060 Super that is 1.5 years old let alone a 5700XT that beat that and was around $375-430 in late 2019.
Well let amd or nvidia go bankrupt then. Alternatively, they can exit the retail card business entirely and let the aibs price them, that way they don't get the bad press of impossible msrps. Right now we're pissed at both of them, with nowhere to turn. Mark my words, they will never make this mistake again. MSRPS for their next generations will start off high like nvidia's 2k series and only go up from here. The market has shown they are willing to pay these insane prices.The last GPU maker that tried that went bankrupt because of it I believe.
Lol comparing today's prices to two years ago.
Yes, because its the only sane way to compare the cards price/perf. Current market prices are nuts no matter what and change weekly anyway.
i guess. yesterday was the first time i saw any 6000 or 3000 series gpus on a shelf. they were all $1K CAN+. most people dont want to drop that kind of money on a gpu, so they sit.Even though I don't believe in high prices, I think it results in better availability. At "fair" prices, they might be out-of-stock for longer periods of time.
It is not rocket science, and would eliminate most of the bot purchases.
They could make a fair queue system, like Valve did on the Deck. Only allow users with existing account history, limit by email/credit card/mailing address/etc. Put Captcha on the cart.
It is not rocket science, and would eliminate most of the bot purchases. But everyone in the chain is still making their money, eBay probably getting some nice fees on scalped cards, etc. It is just gamers that are getting wrecked.
Just in time for a new generation of GPUs to come out, and then we can start all over.Eventually the market will saturate...
Mate if you already bought a 1500 dollar gpu, taco doubt you'll be looking for an upgrade for another 2,000dollar gpu with 30% performance increase.
Meh, either way it's the same result to people like me. No card, because if they don't have it... obviously I can't get it, and if they're too expensive, then I'm not going to buy it just so I can have it.Even though I don't believe in high prices, I think it results in better availability. At "fair" prices, they might be out-of-stock for longer periods of time.
Meh, either way it's the same result to people like me. No card, because if they don't have it... obviously I can't get it, and if they're too expensive, then I'm not going to buy it just so I can have it.
I wouldn't mind higher prices if the source of them was the primary market that releases them, then you just shrug your shoulders and go "fuck it, I guess that's what it costs these days, I'm out". When it's the secondary (aka scalper) market, that's a hard one to swallow
We pumped a lot of money into the economy. This is largely the new normal.Judging by the prices of motherboards, power supplies, RAM, used cars, stereo equipment, sirloin steaks, and apartments, it's starting to feel like things will never go "back to normal."
More like pump and dump...We pumped a lot of money into the economy. This is largely the new normal.
As anyone who understand basic economics, printing more money doesn't make the whole pie bigger, it just makes each slice of the pie that much smaller.Fact is the dollar is being devalued by"just print some more money" policies so this very well could be the new normal.
Somebody has visited Venezuela!More like pump and dump...
As anyone who understand basic economics, printing more money doesn't make the whole pie bigger, it just makes each slice of the pie that much smaller.
Heh, true, though we probably shouldn't go down the political road on this one.Somebody has visited Venezuela!
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There was a distinct point in which upgrading GPUs no longer delivered dramatically better visuals, instead simply increasing fps at almost identical settings. Looking back at my gaming evolution from early 80s to present day, a lot of us are in that golden videogame generation that got to see graphics leap ahead in dramatic iterations every few years. For a kid coming into gaming today, is there even a dramatic wow factor that would deliver similar impressions from the jump of 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit 3d?
For me, the moment when a new graphics card simply meant slightly higher fps at the same settings was when I got 2 7900gtx's for bf2. Yeah there was a little more umph, but rationally the game looked the same despite the better part of a thousand dollars parting ways with my bank account.