My, my, reading some of these posts makes me realize how reading comprehension has failed so many.Are you new to the tech world? You want the latest most advanced phones and devices you pay a premium and you realize right off the bat there's a clock ticking till it's just "another device" and the next hyper advanced toy is here. The people that spend that much on a phone know damn well it's not something they will keep for 8 years. or even 5. It sounds like you are perfectly happy with updates from apple that break and or degrade their older hardware and it's well established what and how apple pushes the users of older hardware into upgrading to the latest toy. With the pace at which phones and technology advance, it's just not realistic to support every phone for 10 years. I don't even see why you are in this thread flying the apple flag, are you that insecure with your purchase?
Wonder what state would have "not legitimate" as a specific civil or criminal term. Failing to adhere to ToS and other contracts just means the wronged party can sue the party who breached the agreement and maybe third parties who knowingly went along with it. Many jurisdictions have taken steps to prevent collateral damage to other parties from contract disputes.
I'll make it easy for you. Apple provides updates for at least my wife's 4 year old phone. But hey I get it, being wrong and all that.
The people that spend that much on a phone know damn well it's not something they will keep for 8 years. or even 5.
That AndroidPolice article said:Kyle, a writer for HardOCP, had his Pixel XL's IMEI blacklisted just yesterday.
I hope they find a way to fix this with google, since i personally had very good experience and deals with them and wouldn't mind a xheap and clean pixel xl.I'm really curious how swappa will handle this since i've bought a couple of phones through them and will likely buy more soon
Okay there's a lot going on here so let's break it down for you.
I never advocated for 10 years but losing security updates after two years isn't a good thing. I never once said 10 years but losing the ability to update your phone after two years is bullshit, we both know it by the way you tried to deflect. Snowflake.
Never had an Apple update break my phone. The devices slow down after 3 years and I snag a new one. Sounds like someone's upset that google fucks you guys around on updates and that's got nothing to do with Apple's (how does fruit have a dick?) penis in my mouth.
Apples dick, well that's new and special. Are you fucking retarded? Must be.
I'd be more insecure if random iPhones were getting blacklisted after IMEI checks though.
The pixel has updates for 24 months. If they'd guarantee longer update releases for the pixel I'd probably buy one. I'm not going to subject myself to the fractured android ecosystem again.Then you need a Pixel, or other vanilla Android device, where you can download the latest versions directly from Google and update the device yourself.
See how easy that is to get updates for your phone for as long as you want?
Talking to the seller now. This is what the seller has told me as of this morning, "I'm going to try and get more answers from Google.. otherwise I'll set up a return and issue a refund.. Swappa, help on this matter would be greatly appreciated considering the hundreds of dollars I've spent on seller fees over the many devices I've sold."So, Kyle, what are your plans for the now blacklisted Pixel XL? Gonna offer it up to someone or... perhaps, target practice on a nice sunny Spring day?
It is whatever I want it to be. But to that point, I think there is a bigger story here than just my phone. It looks like large scale fraud of some kind has been perpetrated considering the mass bannings of Pixel phones.This a personal blog or a tech news site??
As of now, returning it is the plan.Kyle, let us know if swappa or paypal forces you to return the blacklisted phone.
Hopefully return it, get my money back, and money back on insurance plan I bought from Swappa. The Swappa guys seem to be firmly on my side on this.What are you going to do with the blacklisted phone, Kyle?
Yeah, this is somewhat interesting in how this all happens. I like the killswitch feature in phones, but it seems to have just made criminals adjust how they operate.A person reporting a phone stolen should be required to show a police report to the phone company before they blacklist it.
I'm sure you answered this, but was he the original owner of the phone?
Buy smart, buy ...sss-m-- traight from Google!
Hopefully things work out in your favor Kyle, without any serious negative hits on your end but some hoop jumping.
It use to be, you'd pay top dollar for an unlocked phone, but you knew it was legit, but receiving warranty was 50-50.
Even if you purchased a phone second hand, you knew it was direct from a carrier because those were literally the only options; or you were cognisant of the fact that it was unlocked and AS-IS.
These days, there are so many different paths a phone can travel as they reach second and third time buyers.
One would hope, that those phones sold into specific usage scenarios would somehow be locked into that case, so the original owner cannot resell if that goes against the Ts&Cs.
Protects from people abusing, but prevents these sorts of situations. But there's probably a lot of legal wrangling there.
I'm not surprised something like this happened, and I am extremely interested in knowing the root cause.
And that is the root of my issue in paying full price for a pixel when the device is already at almost the one year mark of those two years.2 years which typically is two major updates.
They dont officially do, but their refurbished units are sometimes new devices, which, lets say are two years old, you buy one and chances are, you will get two more os updates, cant say that about a pixel, sadly.Does Apple reduce the price of a 2 year old iPhone?
Agreed 100%. My last 3 phones were either used or heavily discounted because they werent new.I wouldn't buy any brand new device on the market today if I had more than enough money to do it
Would be a matter of platform preference, i prefer android because ios is too locked down for my taste, but you have to balance whats worth and whats not i guess.But some folks just gotta have those Pixels, never been able to figure out the draw, who knows.
IF someone buys a phone on a plan in the US, and then doesn't pay up for the plan duration, does the phone get black listed? I know some carriers in Canada are doing this.
I suspect we are seeing the results of widespread fraud here with Project Fi "purchased" phones, but have no evidence of that yet.Damn, yeap, sounds like the already metioned scam.
What is curious is why it took this long for the phone to be blacklisted, since it looks like it is a launch unit?
The problem with people not paying their bills with their subsidized phones shouldn't be the current owner's issues