Google Employees Claim Work on Chinese Search Engine Continues

Discussion in 'HardForum Tech News' started by AlphaAtlas, Mar 5, 2019.

  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2018
    Following protests from externals sources as well as their own employees, Google allegedly shelved their plans to launch the censored "Dragonfly" search engine in China last year. But, according to a recent report, Google employees have discovered that work on Dragonfly is ongoing. Inside sources claim that hundreds of commits to the code have been made last December, January, and February, and that Google's official position on the state of the project is as clear as mud. Google's leadership is said to "have really closed down communication and become significantly less transparent," which is supposedly pushing away some of the company's best engineering talent.

    Google bosses had originally planned to launch it between January and April of this year. But they changed course after the outcry over the plan and indicated to employees who were working on the project that it was being shelved... "Right now it feels unlaunchable, but I don't think they are canceling outright," McMillen said. "I think they are putting it on the back burner and are going to try it again in a year or two with a different code name or approach." Anna Bacciarelli, a technology researcher at Amnesty International, called on Google "to publicly confirm that it has dropped Dragonfly for good, not just 'for now.'" Bacciarelli told The Intercept that Amnesty's Secretary General Kumi Naidoo had visited Google's Mountain View headquarters in California last week to reiterate concerns over Dragonfly and "the apparent disregard for transparency and accountability around the project."
  2. LightningEagle7

    LightningEagle7 n00b

    Mar 19, 2012
    Not surprised at all. Even if they aren't going to deploy this in China, the tech/code can and likely will be used here. The coastal technocratic elite have decided for us that censorship and mass data collection is the only way to create a "civil", "diverse", and "equal" internet for the future.
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  3. Patton187

    Patton187 Gawd

    Feb 12, 2012
    Yea, screw them.
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  4. TangledThornz

    TangledThornz Gawd

    Jun 12, 2018
    Google should be used to suppressing Free Speech by now.
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  5. Oldmodder

    Oldmodder Gawd

    Aug 24, 2018
    Bong fan chingichong, meaning evil enough to operate in China :D
  6. SamuelL421

    SamuelL421 Limp Gawd

    Jun 3, 2016
    China already has the biggest share of internet users in the world and that is still rapidly growing. The Chinese market also allows for a huge amount of data collection - both through disregard for privacy and the fact that they have 3x the number of internet users compared to the US. If you are a company investing heavily in AI / machine learning, China is a goldmine. They already failed once in China with their US business model, I think they are trying to stake a claim for big data over there.

    I hate the idea of censorship, but I get why Google is pursing this and it has nothing to do with free speech or lack thereof.
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  7. Wolf-R1

    Wolf-R1 [H]ard|Gawd

    Aug 30, 2004
    Google is such a strange beast...
    Definitely an evil beast but a strange one. What other company listens to their employees as much as Google does yet is as invasive as Facebook?
  8. Lakados

    Lakados [H]ard|Gawd

    Feb 3, 2014
    Yeah when they pulled out they gave MS a huge lead on just that and Microsoft is using that data gold mine for a huge number of AI, translation, and customer interaction projects. The lead it gave them will cost Alphabet billions in future projects so I can see why they would cave to get back into the Chinese market. Project Dragon Fly is dead, long live project Globe Skinner.
  9. Smashing Young Man

    Smashing Young Man [H]ard|Gawd

    Sep 11, 2009
    Google is helping to normalize censorship and oppression by doing this. Fuck their bottomline (something you would have never caught me saying a few years ago, but I'm beginning to see the error of my anarcho-capitalist ways).
  10. Dead Parrot

    Dead Parrot 2[H]4U

    Mar 4, 2013
    I am thinking that Dragonfly was canceled as Google claimed. By amazing coincidence Project Horsefly was started at the same time using much of the leftover code from Dragonfly.

    Wouldn't be too surprised to see a subsidiary spun off from Google in cooperation with a China company to handle things like this. Would allow the American Google to still get a piece of the profits while claiming they don't have operational control of the China subsidiary.
  11. HockeyJon

    HockeyJon [H]ard|Gawd

    Dec 14, 2014
    This is the company who’s morals supposedly made it impossible to work with the American Department of Defence.
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  12. OFaceSIG

    OFaceSIG [H]ard|Gawd

    Aug 31, 2009
    I don't know how the company that has "do no evil" in it's bylaws can justify this exercise.