Google China Prototype Links Searches to Phone Numbers

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  1. Megalith

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    Google’s search engine for China, “Dragonfly,” will not, unsurprisingly, feature any semblance of privacy: The Intercept has learned all searches will be tied to a user’s phone number, making it even easier for the Chinese government to track someone down. The search engine already features an extensive blacklist of terms, such as “human rights,” “student protest,” and “Nobel Prize.”

    “This is very problematic from a privacy point of view, because it would allow far more detailed tracking and profiling of people’s behavior,” said Cynthia Wong, senior internet researcher with Human Rights Watch. “Linking searches to a phone number would make it much harder for people to avoid the kind of overreaching government surveillance that is pervasive in China.”
     
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  2. Evil Scooter

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    Sooo.. "don't be evil..." unless some communist gubberment is giving you access to billions in revenue.
     
  3. RealBeast

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    In the modern era, for efficiency Google shortened it to "be evil." They seem to be excelling at it.
     
  4. Private_Ops

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    In this day an age you're better off with a dumb phone and a damn good firewall.
     
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  5. SixFootDuo

    SixFootDuo [H]ardness Supreme

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    China has made it's own bed. If a US company wants to go in and make money having to play by their rules, then .... big fcking deal. What do you really care? You don't think companies are already evil to start with? I'm sure if would could fully peal back the mask of any US company, there would be a shit ton of dirt and filth.

    Besides, good guys finish last. This is fact. You think China or Russia is living by that motto, don't be evil. Get your money game on.

    I will say, the phone numbers tired to searches sounds really scary haha.

    Facebook keeps asking me for my number when I log in, I had to finally disable that element.

    Thank god we aren't Chinese. Talk about hell.
     
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  6. AceGoober

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    Appropriate picture. Kid looks like he is kicking the Google sign. :p

    Seems ripe for abuse.

    "I don't like my neighbor. Let's hack into their phone and see what damage I can do."

    Several minutes later...

    **Chinese police show up

    **Yelling and arguing

    **Police pull neighbor outside

    **Gunshots heard

    **For Rent sign posted

    :eek:
     
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  7. Evil Scooter

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    Let's try not to make this all about me. Google is the company who claims to hold themselves to higher values yet they are ok with censorship of conservatives here in the US and of an entire population in China.

    So despite their claims they are a money gurbbin company like any other.... pointing out the hypocrisy.
     
  8. glutto

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    So cell phone theft should skyrocket in China.
     
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    This is the type of government our republican and democrat corporatists prop up. They allow our businesses to exploit the unfortunate people in developing nations. They allow unions to be illegal, they allow students to be pulled out of school to work in the factory. They allow themselves special legal status and corporate police forces. They allow consumer pollution to be moved away from first world accountability and hidden in another nation's pollution statistics. They allow corporate staff to commit crimes that any other individual would be sent to prison for. They subvert the democratic process by using armies of lawyers and mountains of cash. It's time to end the rule of corporatists.
     
  10. SixFootDuo

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    It's called marketing ... don't fall for it. At the end of the day, they have bills to pay and profits to count. It's a persona they've created for themselves that's meant to cast the company in a favorable light. Companies, Politicians, Religions, Individuals, we all do the same shit ... every second of the day.

    You really believe that horse shit? The next time you pass up the corner store and they are advertising the cheapest beer and lowest prices in town which almost all of them do ... it's all bs ... they have the same prices and probably higher than anyone else.

    Google just wants you to feel good about them as a company. I can give you a gazillion other examples.

    Create a BS filter in your mind right now so the next time you come across this, it gets filtered out so you can stay on point the remainder of your day.
     
  11. Evil Scooter

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    Fall for it? I've been calling out their and their like minded leftist hive's hypocrisy for years. Just more hiding in plain sight evidence IMHO.

    Again.. let's not make this about me.
     
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  12. mullet

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    Google is not ideologically driven. This video is proof. lol

     
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  13. SixFootDuo

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    About you? I'm far to efficient to focus on just one person. It was never about you ... this is trick is meant to simplify anyone's day ... the trick being, just don't fall for BS. I expect people to read between the lines and then apply it. You're just the happenstance so to speak.

    As you get older, I was born in 68. You realize over the years the multiple levels of shit people spew. And then, you have people go thru multiple stages of trying to figure out the bs. It gets to the point where you just ignore these little monikers and slogans ... "company mission statements" and you just look for tangible results and efforts you can see. In short, lot of people blow hot air, prop themselves up. At some point you just want to tell everyone, enough showmanship, talk and bs. Just call me when you're done and ready and we can talk.

    In short, don't waste your time trying to figure anything out, it's huge waste of time. Google is going to operate in it's best interest period and they will flip their own rules around anytime they need to. Like making a boat load of money in China. No one is going to shoot themselves in the head. I'm not going to go to jail over $100 dollars, but I might go to jail over $100,000 .... if you don't understand that then you're just not going to get it.

    Here's another example. Apple just had a release party of sorts for some of their new products. One is a new Apple watch with a built in feature ( miniature EKG or something ) they are claiming is a first. Mind you, Apple has said many times it doesn't copy others or whatever, Well, no, not really ... another company already has the same feature in a product out on the market for $99 vs the $399. It's just all lies and bullshit my man. Expect it from everyone. And again, save yourself the brain power if I were you.

    You young guys and I was absolutely guilty of this when I was younger ... spend a ton of time debating and unraveling all the BS that's out there. Huge waste of time when you already should know better.
     
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  14. Mega6

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    Like HTTPS makes my google search private here. Google is one giant information gathering device, just like fakebook. thats how they make their money. with our data.

    Edit - not to be too captain obvious, but a lot of people (non IT) don't understand that.
     
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    Bet non [H]ers think, "whew glad Google is only like this in China" HAHAHA YEA RIGHT. why do you think they insist on using stupid shit like beacons, canvas fingerprinting, etc
     
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  16. opfreak

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    The all were crying about how terrible trump it was that trump was elected, while working with a Chinese government that just allowed their leader to rule forever?
     
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  17. Spidey329

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    Did you really just link to a Breitbart video?

    That's like one of the prime examples of propaganda driven media.
     
  18. BlueFireIce

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    It's a internal Google video, in full. No commentary given. How exactly is that propaganda?
     
  19. painintheworld

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    Generally, yes, but certainly not in this case. It is a shame how different Breitbart is from its deceased namesake.
     
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    It's the first in a watch and also the first with FDA approval.

    But other than that, yeah - they are totally copying :rolleyes:
     
  21. DocNo

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    Breitbart or not, the video from Google is real. It would be amusing to see the shit being flipped if the ideological preferences displayed were opposite of what the heads of that company were espousing.
     
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  22. Retronym

    Retronym Something big is coming.

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    It’s all about control.

    Google was born to do this.

    This is their moment.
     
  23. opfreak

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    Triggered brain dead liberal found.

    Did you even bother looking at the link, or are you so brain washed that you saw breibart and started foaming at the mouth?

    Your probably the beta male at the end of that video talking about how white men need to learn about how its evil to be white and male.
     
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  24. triwolf

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    That's why it's your job to question and not allow these horrible people to have control.

    Everything they are doing with this China search engine will end up being used in every other country eventually, if you let it.

    Also China has a new thing called a "Social Rating". If you speak up or ever do anything the powers that be don't like, they blacklist, destroy your life and ruin you.You can't opt out like today with not joining Facebook, it creates a profile for you by facial recognition and you have no say in it. Don't think for a second they won't try to spin it as a good thing for the US and the world and try to get our leaders to approve it.
     
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  25. triwolf

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    From what I understand, they removed that from their mission statement, so we can't call them hypocritical lying evil pieces of dung.
     
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    triwolf Gawd

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    My grandad said it best after voting for Demorats in the 40's and 50's and seeing them do nothing but lie and steal, "I'll never vote for a lying dirty Democrat ever again!" Seems Repugnicants aren't much better, so I don't know what to tell you. Pray may be about your only option.
     
  27. Retronym

    Retronym Something big is coming.

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    No argument here.

    USA already encourages GHCQ to spy on Americans so they can spy on us on their servers.
     
  28. triwolf

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    Agreed. I have a huge document where I have made a copy of all the ridiculously evil crap that has been going on in the world, and I will spread all I know to as many people as I can. People need to wake up and begin to question things from the get go, don't assume people mean you no harm, that is a fools way to think.

    Also absolute power corrupts absolutely. Never forget it.
     
  29. triwolf

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    All companies want your phone number now as an identifier. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to understand they only see you as that number, and want it to be able to know everything about you. You can tell them that you are not a number and that is not meant as an identifier. They usually laugh and cite their policy, like it's a law, while it's just them pressuring you to go along with the herd.
     
  30. DocNo

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    That's why I'm an independent. And after the complete shitshow the last two years, I'm now off the bench and active.

    That we barely get 50% in presidential elections and far less in midterms is a significant problem. That so much power has been consolidated at the federal level instead of the state level is our real problem.

    People really need to read the fu$%!ng federalist papers. It's all there. It really isn't that hard. This country was set up for a number of very good reasons and a lot of the crap going on right now is because we have ignored or allowed many to pervert how things should be working, such as elevating the Supreme Court to have power and influence that was never intended. If you have judges that can make up new law out of hand, then what the heck do you need the two other branches of government for?

    But for many having the supreme court that can just make stuff up is politically expedient so they defend it. Our country can not survive if the rules only apply when they are convenient. Shit is going to get real if this continues...
     
  31. Uncle

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    Google all ready does it in Canada and USA. Always asking to tie your Gmail to a phone number. They hide the fact you can ignore it and move on. Take street view, phone number, email, and facial recognition and tagging in Facebook, and I would have to say the evil ones have had time to develop the technology right here in the Communist Gubberment of the Corporations in the,you guessed it, the USA.
     
  32. triwolf

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    I completely agree, maybe there will be more people that see this reality and we can finally get on a sane track again. Please try to get as many people as you can to understand, because the people in power have done a good job keeping people dumb.
     
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