Google Bypassed IE Privacy Settings Too

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Hey Safari users, don't feel bad about Google sidestepping your browser security, they were doing it to Internet Explorer users too.

"When the IE team heard that Google had bypassed user privacy settings on Safari, we asked ourselves a simple question: is Google circumventing the privacy preferences of Internet Explorer users too?" IE executive Dean Hachamovitch wrote in a blog post this morning. "We've discovered the answer is yes: Google is employing similar methods to get around the default privacy protections in IE and track IE users with cookies."
 

Wenthral

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Oh not cool. Not cool at all.

I guess the real question is do they bypass Chrome privacy settings also?
 

KENNYB

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Mr Burns agrees!

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Bojamijams

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[+Duracell-];1038406532 said:
LALALA GOOGLE DOES NO EVIL.

/sarcasm

Don't you dare point out to the Fandroids how evil their company is. They LOVE to believe in their superiority complex over blackberry, iphone and WP users.
 

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Question is, why are browsers allowing it to happen? The saying in programming "never trust a user's inputted data" applies here but the other way around. "never trust the website's request to ask the browser to do something". This also applies to all the drive bys and spyware and other crap that could be so easily preventable if browsers were coded better to handle these situations.
 

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Privacy does not exist because they are not legally required to provide privacy. Google will never give you privacy, either quit using their services or just give up and accept it.
 

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Don't you dare point out to the Fandroids how evil their company is. They LOVE to believe in their superiority complex over blackberry, iphone and WP users.

Oh yeah, because iDrones have such a good and pure company. :rolleyes:
 

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Privacy does not exist because they are not legally required to provide privacy. Google will never give you privacy, either quit using their services or just give up and accept it.

or use noscript
 

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Noscript is great and I use it. Problem is so many sites wont even load at all until you allow it through, so I find it's almost useless. People have to stop using javascript for site layout. News sites are the worse for this. There is always a list of like 20 different domains that need js enabled just for a freaking article to load. wtf is with that?
 

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I wonder how they bypassed it, did they simply collect information another way or...
 

Angry

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Whoopty F'in doo....Big Deal...

Ask any web devloper and you find out that HTML itself is a hack....
 

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Oh yeah, because iDrones have such a good and pure company. :rolleyes:

There's no such thing as a good and pure company. Not when it comes to making millions. My point was, that its popular to spout shit like 'Apple is evil, they sue everyone, Android forever!' and other pointless rhetoric when Apple, Google and Microsoft will sue anyone they have a chance to (basically, the second the obtain a patent)
 

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There's no such thing as a good and pure company. Not when it comes to making millions. My point was, that its popular to spout shit like 'Apple is evil, they sue everyone, Android forever!' and other pointless rhetoric when Apple, Google and Microsoft will sue anyone they have a chance to (basically, the second the obtain a patent)

Should have stated that in your first post. Kind of made it sound like Google is teh ev1L, while Apple was fine, lol.

But yes, I do agree with you fully, especially in the case of RAMBUS. :eek:
 

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Technically, Google utilizes a nuance in the P3P specification that has the effect of bypassing user preferences about cookies. The P3P specification (in an attempt to leave room for future advances in privacy policies) states that browsers should ignore any undefined policies they encounter. Google sends a P3P policy that fails to inform the browser about Google's use of cookies and user information. Google's P3P policy is actually a statement that it is not a P3P policy.
P3P, or Platform for Privacy Preferences, is an official recommendation of the World Wide Web Consortium that sites use to summarize their privacy policies. However, the recommendation has been largely ignored in the past decade since introduction a decade ago with many major Web sites such as Google.com, Apple.com, CNN.com, and Twitter.com opting not to use it to describe their policies.

Sounds to me like a browser flaw. Not necessarily Google deliberately trying to do "evil". Just sayin'.
 

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Google IS NOT breaking any privacy features, they are simply following what the P3P standard says: http://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=151657

Where is all the Google FUD coming from lately? Everyone jumps on the "Google is evil" ship almost daily now, when there are actual evil companies out there trying to destroy the tech world, read Apple. Google makes it very clear what they do with your data and tries its best, on sites like Youtube and Google+, to help you protect your privacy. And of course by speaking rationally here I will be labeled a "google fanboi". Whatever, go back to your Google bashing party. :/
 

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Don't you dare point out to the Fandroids how evil their company is. They LOVE to believe in their superiority complex over blackberry, iphone and WP users.

And I'm sure you are going to read the follow up where Google points out that IE is fucking stupid because they are responding saying they *don't* support the IE-specific feature, and IE goes "herp derp OK glad you support it here's all the user's data LOLOL!". Then you are going to admit you were wrong, right?

Oh, wait, of course you won't, because you are on a pointless vendetta for no fucking reason.
 

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Google IS NOT breaking any privacy features, they are simply following what the P3P standard says: http://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=151657

Where is all the Google FUD coming from lately? Everyone jumps on the "Google is evil" ship almost daily now, when there are actual evil companies out there trying to destroy the tech world, read Apple. Google makes it very clear what they do with your data and tries its best, on sites like Youtube and Google+, to help you protect your privacy. And of course by speaking rationally here I will be labeled a "google fanboi". Whatever, go back to your Google bashing party. :/

Because people *want* Google to be evil. If Google is evil, it justifies other companies being evil, and helps reinforce that "us vs. them" mentality so many people have. That's the whole "fight the man" thing.
 

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No mention from firefox as they are paid or supported directly by google cash hand outs !!!
 

jober1

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Nothing wrong with IE 9, let alone IE 8.

I'll never get over how Microsoft just let IE die once they had a full monopoly, and everyone just had to use their crap. Finally Mozilla and Chrome come along and Microsoft suddenly can make a decent browser again. IE is boycotted for life.
 

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Because people *want* Google to be evil. If Google is evil, it justifies other companies being evil, and helps reinforce that "us vs. them" mentality so many people have. That's the whole "fight the man" thing.

Companies just want money, that doesn't make them evil it doesn't make them good. It just makes them try and get money however they can \ want.
 

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I'll never get over how Microsoft just let IE die once they had a full monopoly, and everyone just had to use their crap. Finally Mozilla and Chrome come along and Microsoft suddenly can make a decent browser again. IE is boycotted for life.
I'll never get how long it took and how many browsers versions just to remotely support most of the CSS spec.
 

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Its amazing to me Google still has "They are such a good company!" fans. I consider Microsoft above Google these days in terms of "goodness".
 

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Noscript is great and I use it. Problem is so many sites wont even load at all until you allow it through, so I find it's almost useless. People have to stop using javascript for site layout. News sites are the worse for this. There is always a list of like 20 different domains that need js enabled just for a freaking article to load. wtf is with that?

I've found that the vast majority of sites work just fine without java enabled (via noscript). For the ones that don't, it's just usually their main domain that you need to enable scripts for to get it working (or a large media hosting domain in the case of streaming media).

It is amazing though to see how many offsite scripts try to run on a given webpage. It's not uncommon to see 1-2 dozen try running per page.
 

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Sounds to me like a browser flaw. Not necessarily Google deliberately trying to do "evil". Just sayin'.

That would be actually lay the blame where it belongs which isn't allowed on the Internet! ;)

Google IS NOT breaking any privacy features, they are simply following what the P3P standard says: http://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=151657

Where is all the Google FUD coming from lately? Everyone jumps on the "Google is evil" ship almost daily now, when there are actual evil companies out there trying to destroy the tech world, read Apple. Google makes it very clear what they do with your data and tries its best, on sites like Youtube and Google+, to help you protect your privacy. And of course by speaking rationally here I will be labeled a "google fanboi". Whatever, go back to your Google bashing party. :/

You're using facts though. You know you can't use those on the Internet! :eek:

People want Google to be evil because Google is everywhere and they want a reason to bash them. They need to justify using their us of sites like Facebook by saying, "Look <insert random company name> is just as evil as <insert random company name> so it's OK to use."

And I'm sure you are going to read the follow up where Google points out that IE is fucking stupid because they are responding saying they *don't* support the IE-specific feature, and IE goes "herp derp OK glad you support it here's all the user's data LOLOL!". Then you are going to admit you were wrong, right?

Oh, wait, of course you won't, because you are on a pointless vendetta for no fucking reason.

This made me smile. I love how sensationalist journalism always gets people riled up before all the facts are known and make many a person look very foolish afterwards. :)

Didn't anybody else find it ironic that MS used the Safari issue as a talking point for IE's security only to have to admit IE is just as bad? :p

dr.stevil said:
I've found that the vast majority of sites work just fine without java enabled (via noscript). For the ones that don't, it's just usually their main domain that you need to enable scripts for to get it working (or a large media hosting domain in the case of streaming media).

It is amazing though to see how many offsite scripts try to run on a given webpage. It's not uncommon to see 1-2 dozen try running per page.

Yeah, kind of scary when you see weird websites running script against your computer and when you look up said site, its reputation is horrible and is known as a malware spreader.

I love NoScript and I'm glad Chrome finally has a clone that's nearly as fully featured so I can finally use Chrome exclusively. Go check out ScriptNo. :D
 

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You've got to be kidding. IE and Safari are jokes compared to Chome/Chromium, Firefox, and Opera.

Yeah, in loony fanboy land. Most other people acknowledge IE9 is a good browser, vastly superior to its earlier siblings.
 

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IE9 is a perfectly usable browser. If you're lazy like me, and don't always feel like installing something else just to use the web, it does the job.

That said, if you're a serious web user, its lack of a spell checker is absolutely inexcusable. You need to install something to get that functionality, and at that point you're better off just installing Chrome (which is an easier and faster install).
 

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Yeah, in loony fanboy land. Most other people acknowledge IE9 is a good browser, vastly superior to its earlier siblings.

"Most other people" also use Windows XP and Vista and still claim that Vista was a good OS with no issues.

Right... keep drinking that cool aid! :D
 
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