Google Announces Next City To Get Google Fiber

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  1. HardOCP News

    HardOCP News [H] News

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    Google announced today that Google Fiber is once again coming to a town you don't live in. Well, unless you live in San Antonio, then congratulations on being selected! This message is brought to you by sour grapes and the salty, salty tears of disappointment. ;)

    Fast growing cities need Internet speeds that can keep up with their progress. For the 1.4 million residents of San Antonio, one of the biggest and fastest growing cities in the country, this is truer than ever. Which is why, today, we’re proud to announce that Google Fiber is coming to San Antonio—the largest Fiber city to date.
     
  2. heatlesssun

    heatlesssun [H]ard as it Gets

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    Google Fiber is good for your eColon.
     
  3. kreno

    kreno [H]Lite

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    Still no Portland....
     
  4. inbedwithhomer

    inbedwithhomer Limp Gawd

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    Seeing them actually bury the fiber and knowing you still have to wait like a year is worse than waiting to hear test results from a doctor.
     
  5. CreepyUncleGoogle

    CreepyUncleGoogle [H]ardness Supreme

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    There must be something worth spying on in San Antonio if Google is going through the trouble if building their data intercept ISP ruse there.
     
  6. nilepez

    nilepez [H]ardForum Junkie

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    theyre not as bad as AT&T, which does deep packet inspection at Google prices (assuming google is in the market...otherwise they charge much more and do DPI)

    FYI, this is striking at AT&T's home base (and one of the places AT&T is planning to launch. Google just forced them to cut prices by 3 or so bucks/month.
     
  7. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    At this point I don't really care anymore, any desires to get Google Fiber service to my city are quickly squashed by the realization that even if they did come to this city there's virtually no chance that they build out where I live for the simple fact there I live in a neighborhood that is primarily old and/or asian people (non-English speaking ones) and AT&T is even dragging their ass about rolling out Uverse (FTTN Uverse, not renamed ADSL from a CO "Uverse")
     
  8. CreepyUncleGoogle

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    I'm pretty sure that thanks to the recent switch to "plain English" usage agreements, Google is cloaking the vast majority of their monitoring and mining, likely including deep packet inspection and breaking open the toy VPN stuff people are trying to use, under a layer of vague non-legalese (which was probably most of the driving reason behind why they went with plain language to begin with).
     
  9. ol1bit

    ol1bit [H]ard|Gawd

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    I'm in Phoenix, and I get 65MB down, and 6MB up, the only thing I can't do is Torrent at crazy speeds.

    Everything else with 5 computers and 3 phones, 2 gaming handhelds works fine.

    I'd get it if it every came here, but not sure what I would use it for that I can't do already.
     
  10. jcvjcvjcvjcv

    jcvjcvjcvjcv Gawd

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    Who wants that stuff anyway? The biggest brother now ISP? Yuk!
     
  11. Bigdady92

    Bigdady92 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Sigh...Florida abandoned again. Now I have to wait for the incoming horrible tyrant that is Charter to kill brighthouse speeds dead.
     
  12. viscountalpha

    viscountalpha 2[H]4U

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    Aloha/ beaverton area here. Yeah. Not portland, yet....
     
  13. Yomi

    Yomi n00b

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    Another member [H]oping for Portland soon.
     
  14. RedWagnum

    RedWagnum Gawd

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    Yay for me! I live in San Antonio!

    Boo for me! If it ever gets to my neighborhood I'll probably be old and gray (well older and grayer).

    When Time-Warner Cable first announced the roll out of broadband cable internet, back in the late '90s I believe it was, I signed up for their early access program (or something like that). I looked at their roll out map and my neighborhood was supposed to be on of the first to get service. Well, three years later I was on AT&T 1.5Mb DSL because TWC still had not rolled out to my area - turned out to be the very last area they rolled out. Rat bastards.

    Right now I'm still with AT&T, at 3Mb DSL over POTS, because I am just outside the range to get 6Mb. But they are switching everyone over to Uverse on fiber and they swear I can get 6Mb then. Thinking about making the change to tide me over until Google gets here. Hope springs eternal...
     
  15. Talyrius

    Talyrius Gawd

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    Announce Portland, Google!
     
  16. CombatChrisNC

    CombatChrisNC [H]ard|Gawd

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    TWC will be bumping it's basic cable speeds here in NC due to Google showing up in the whole Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill and surrounding 'burbs. In addition to coming to Charlotte!

    Something in the realm of triple digit download speeds for people who currently are getting only 35mbs down- for the same price.
     
  17. topslop1

    topslop1 2[H]4U

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    Albany NY! YAY. Oh okay maybe not.
     
  18. topslop1

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    Wait is it $39/month? Cuz I like spending $39/month.
     
  19. DocSavage

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    In Kansas City, Time Warner just sent me a flyer advertising 50mb internet + cable tv + HBO + Showtime for $50/mo. They must be desperate.
     
  20. AthlonXP

    AthlonXP [H]ard as it Gets

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    Alexandria VA is querying for Fiber now that Verizon is no longer laying it in my area. Time to come here!!
     
  21. Jagger100

    Jagger100 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Google Fiber supposedly builds to completion previous projects that were abandoned. This is the reason for the hodge podge roll out and why most places will never get it.
     
  22. drklu

    drklu 2[H]4U

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    +1 for Porland metro area !
     
  23. Reality

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    how fast is Google fiber?

    my relatively tiny town in central IL (34k pop) just got gigabit via itv-3.com for 79.99/mo
     
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    Reality [H]ard|Gawd

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    looks like 70/mo for 1gb up/down. that's sick. we only get 200mb up
     
  25. ZenDragon

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    I am also in Phoenix, on Cox. I have the 165Mbps plan. More than enough for everything I do, but is about the same cost as Google Fiber so I might switch if they ever build it here.

    That said I think Cox as been one of the more ethical companies in regards to monitoring activities. So who knows.
     
  26. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    I'm lucky to have Verizon FiOS where I live, and I subscribe to the 150/150 plan.

    It's good most of the time. Downloading from Steam at 18.75MB/s has its merits.

    That being said, Verizon does a terrible job at maintaining and building out its interconnect/peering sites, which are always congested at peak hours (also known as Netflix time)

    My pings in games to my favorite servers tend to rise dramatically at those times. It's not as bad now as it was last year, but still not great.

    That, and the shenanigans with Cogent and Netflix were deplorable. Comcast and Verizon would do something like that. I just don't feel like Google would.
     
  27. beowulf7

    beowulf7 [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Come up about 280 miles to the D/FW area, Google!
     
  28. DocSavage

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    Google fiber is a 1,000mbits/s connection. I have no idea what their trunks are, but I've gotten up to 76.0 megabytes/s through Steam.
     
  29. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    There's also the free* 5mbit down, 1mbit up plan.

    *after $300 construction fee, payable upfront or in monthly installments spread out over a year.
     
  30. polonyc2

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    I'm happy with Verizon FiOS but would love for Google Fiber to hit NYC...
     
  31. Aaron_ATX

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    Still hasnt made it to my neck of the woods in North Austin....300 down from time warner is plenty really anyway. Cept you have to come to terms with giving time warner your money knowing damn well 95% of it is spent on crack or whatever the hell they feed their employees to keep them hovering around the 25 iq point mark.....


    Heh, by the time san antonio is wired it will be basically part of austin anyway...... get out of my town!
     
  32. MrTryfe

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    No chance of GFiber in Chicago, but one can always dream, I suppose.

    Do any of the major cities in close proximity to these GFiber cities get any type of boost from competitors?
     
  33. DSF767

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    Wish it would come to Boston
     
  34. Zarathustra[H]

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    Ditto, but it probably will not happen any time soon.

    I'm surprised the greater Boston area even got FiOS.

    ISP/Cable companies move into jurisdictions where they can get as many subscribers as possible, with as few city/town/whatever legal agreements as possible.

    In many newer cities and towns you have this. Large land masses with lots of people all under the same governance.

    In the Boston area, while essentially 4 million people in one urban area, it is all split up into different cities and towns that have grown together over a few hundred years.

    Boston itself only has ~600k residents. That's not enough to support an early full roll-out. To get those numbers up you have to start adding in Cambridge, Newton, Somerville, Waltham, Brookline, Medford, Arlington, Everett, etc. Now you are dealing with 10 separate local governments to negotiate with, with 10 separate sets of agendas, and 10 separate sets of requirements (some of which may conflict with each other) and it immediately becomes more complex, difficult and costly to accomplish.

    This is one of the many reasons Verizon slowed, and eventually stalled their rollout of FiOS in the area.

    For the greater good of the area, to make projects like this easier, we really ought consolidate all of the territory inside the 128 ring into one local Boston government. otherwise projects like this just stall due to the overwhelming effort to actually get anything agreed on.

    The first rollouts will always be in large consolidated territories.
     
  35. yomike007

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    While I understand the rationale for Google bringing fiber to one of the fastest growing cities, I am from St. Louis, a city has been standing still for years in every way it's seemingly moving backwards compared to the acceleration of more progressive cities.

    It would be interesting for Google to also give fiber to a St. Louis/Baltimore/Detroit type city and do a 10 year economic impact study on growth between cities on the opposite ends of the spectrum.
     
  36. You're in the Peoria/Champaign/Urbana area. Big Silicon Prairie college town. U of I has MASSIVE fiber resources throughout that area. The only places in the state with more unlit fiber are Chicago-proper and St. Louis proper.
     
  37. The thing is, the city has to more or less bend over backwards to make Google welcome.

    And a lot of these big cities, ESPECIALLY in the Illinois area, are just out to see how much tax money they can extract from the plebes before an armed mob comes for them.
     
  38. Zarathustra[H]

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    I agree, it would be interesting to do a study to see if availability of fast internet actually has the supposed economic benefits to a city or region as many suggest.

    (I would argue probably not, unless the difference is staggering, like going from dialup to the first always on cable)

    the problem with this is, doing it to one city would not collect enough data. You would need a random sample of many datapoints. lets say 30 cities that got google fiber, and 30 cities that didn't. Hopefully that would be sufficient to isolate the data from the noise.

    Otherwise, how do you know which effort to credit for growth and recovery (if this happens). Was it the internet, or one of the other 200 urban renewal projects, or something else entirely?

    Once you start having larger numbers like the above, you can start saying that on average, cities that got eh service did better than cities that did not. With enough datapoints this makes the noise factors less and less relevant.