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Gonna jump into the PCVR World with a Quest 2 Used

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For 150$ and the elite strap and battery seems like a good deal and a way to dip my toes into it. Last time I tried VR was the Samsung Gear VR stuff so I suspect this will be a step up. I wanted to get the Quest 3 but at its current price could not justify it for a gizmo purchase. With access to wifi 6 and my system hardwired via gigabit ethernet I suspect Streaming via Airlink to Steam or using Virtual Desktop should play well. I grabbed a Logitech Chorus VR refurb in "Excellent quality" for 23$ at amazon.

I have access to Flight Slim 2020 I think still and I will pick up half life alyx in the steam sale. Any other must haves? PC Racing games in VR with a Gamepad or other actions games.
 
For PC gamse Half-Life Alyx is a great game if you're new to VR.

But I would dip into the Quest native games first. You won't have to worry about things not being setup correctly having connections issues, latency, having to play near your PC, etc.

Beat Saber is great. Elven Assassin is a good archery game. Both great games if you're new to VR.
 
sharknice said:
For PC gamse Half-Life Alyx is a great game if you're new to VR.

But I would dip into the Quest native games first. You won't have to worry about things not being setup correctly having connections issues, latency, having to play near your PC, etc.

Beat Saber is great. Elven Assassin is a good archery game. Both great games if you're new to VR.
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I have real-world throughput of about 400Mbps with a pretty consistent 866mbps link speed(Wifi 5 only atm). This might be the nudge to grab the new in-wall 7 Pro AP. I think for 72 or 90hz and HVEC should be enough throughput. Beat Saber was already on my list. Wondering if I should get it natively or via Steam? Leaning towards steam
 
Vengance_01 said:
I have real-world throughput of about 400Mbps with a pretty consistent 866mbps link speed(Wifi 5 only atm). This might be the nudge to grab the new in-wall 7 Pro AP. I think for 72 or 90hz and HVEC should be enough throughput. Beat Saber was already on my list. Wondering if I should get it natively or via Steam? Leaning towards steam
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I would get it natively. If you haven't done much VR yet I would try native games first. You don't have to worry about latency or other issues which can really ruin your experience by making you feel sick. Also you can just play it anywhere with no setup.

Quest 2 doesn't support wifi 6 or 7 so wifi 5 is the best you're going to get with it, although quality of the router can make a big difference too even if it's just using wifi 5.

I bought a Quest 2 for PC VR back when they were new, but I actually ended up playing the native games more than PCVR.
 
I was able to get the the headset. tested with HL VR game. the quest 2 is constantly linking at 1200mbps. VD works perfectly with my arc a770. pretty good for what it is. looking forward for a longer play session

Also I do not recommend any USB C headphones if your using a quest elite strap with battery. it does not allow for the system to see the extra battery and thus just tries to trickle charge the main battery. my plan is to use Bluetooth for less sensitive titles for sound and a over the head wired old Bose qc headphones for games like beat saber etc...
 
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Okay holy shit HL ALYX has been mind blowing so far! Messing around with different settings but I really hope more PCVR games take off. I understand details don't compare to new AAA games but I am sorry the emersion is off the chart with ANC Headphones. Seeing the holographic interaction, the gun play and aiming... Oh and the first time I saw the long tongue monsters was a oh shit moment...
 
Vengance_01 said:
Okay holy shit HL ALYX has been mind blowing so far! Messing around with different settings but I really hope more PCVR games take off. I understand details don't compare to new AAA games but I am sorry the emersion is off the chart with ANC Headphones. Seeing the holographic interaction, the gun play and aiming... Oh and the first time I saw the long tongue monsters was a oh shit moment...
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Isn't VR amazing? It is really shame that it has trouble breaking away from the vocal and fanatic niche groups of ours because the possibilities on VR gaming is huge and immersion factor is off the charts. More accurately because it is rather niche the big game developers hestitate on making triple AAA games for it and are not willing to invest and risk, help brand new market to grow. So far we have Half Life Alyx, Asgards Wrath 1 and 2, Lone Echo 1 and 2, Skyrim VR (although it needs some mod help) and Fallout 4 VR (absolutely crap without mods) and thats about it. I am not sure about the Assassins Creed VR, haven't tried it yet. The rest of the VR games are AA at best, shoverware and tech demos at worst.

Thank god for modding community who keep making VR ports and mods of older games. Doom 3 (both PCVR and Quest standalone) will make you shit your pants. :D
 
We got a Quest 3, and so I decided to replace our aging Oculus Rift S with our Quest 2. The cable replacement situation for the Rift S now-a-days is just getting to be too much of a hassle.

I put a WiFi 6 router near the computer and I got a big USB-C battery pack that can output practical USB-C PD levels (65W) and so far it’s been a great replacement. We just carry the battery pack on us while playing. And finally no fragile cables for the kids to destroy.

A used Quest 2 and good WiFi router are a great way to get into PCVR at an affordable level.
 
westrock2000 said:
We got a Quest 3, and so I decided to replace our aging Oculus Rift S with our Quest 2. The cable replacement situation for the Rift S now-a-days is just getting to be too much of a hassle.

I put a WiFi 6 router near the computer and I got a big USB-C battery pack that can output practical USB-C PD levels (65W) and so far it’s been a great replacement. We just carry the battery pack on us while playing. And finally no fragile cables for the kids to destroy.

A used Quest 2 and good WiFi router are a great way to get into PCVR at an affordable level.
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Agreed, I love PCVR over Wi-Fi on my Q3. I want to caveat, though, that everyone should make sure to check the router model they have or are planning to buy to make sure it works well with the Quest. Meta’s Wi-Fi and USB connectivity implementations are both absolutely terrible, and you can have a hell of a time getting it to work properly if you buy the wrong equipment. I wanted to tear all my hair out trying to get a good experience on my old router, and trying to solve the problem with a wired USB 3 connection created as many headaches as it solved.* I finally (mostly) solved the issues with a Wi-Fi 6E router on the 6 GHz channel. The Virtual Desktop Discord channel maintains a list of recommended routers.

*[vent] I mean honestly, any multi-billion dollar company that screws up a simple wired USB-C connection must have its head six feet up its collective ass [/vent]
 
I got a couple of Deco 6E APs and they work great for dedicated VR.
 
MavericK said:
I got a couple of Deco 6E APs and they work great for dedicated VR.
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If you live in an area without interference, they can be great, if there is interference, they aren't the best to use, since they do not give you control over the channels they use
 
Koldur said:
If you live in an area without interference, they can be great, if there is interference, they aren't the best to use, since they do not give you control over the channels they use
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You do somewhat, you can run a "network optimization" and it'll change the channels based on local interference. Not perfect, but I haven't had any issues. Though, I don't think I have a lot of interference where I live.
 
MavericK said:
You do somewhat, you can run a "network optimization" and it'll change the channels based on local interference. Not perfect, but I haven't had any issues. Though, I don't think I have a lot of interference where I live.
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Very glad it works for you, but that still does nothing for really controlling the channels. It essentially does the same as just setting it up initially.
The automatic setup doesn't account for a lot of factors (for instance temporary spikes on certain channels on certain times) or outright gets it wrong.

Ultimately, Deco versions aren't a good choice for VR for most people and aren't recommended if you still have to buy.
 
Koldur said:
Very glad it works for you, but that still does nothing for really controlling the channels. It essentially does the same as just setting it up initially.
The automatic setup doesn't account for a lot of factors (for instance temporary spikes on certain channels on certain times) or outright gets it wrong.

Ultimately, Deco versions aren't a good choice for VR for most people and aren't recommended if you still have to buy.
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That's fair. Part of the reason I went for Decos is that I already had a Wi-Fi 6 Deco mesh system, so it was easy to just throw these in.
 
Do they support wifi direct? Seems to me a separate wireless card/dongle with a wifi direct connection would have better latency and throughput than going through a router, as long as your cpu could handle the added load -- most modern cpu's should be fine, especially high-end ones.
 
Nobu said:
Do they support wifi direct? Seems to me a separate wireless card/dongle with a wifi direct connection would have better latency and throughput than going through a router, as long as your cpu could handle the added load -- most modern cpu's should be fine, especially high-end ones.
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Supposedly it doesn't work as well as a dedicated router because of the way windows handles wifi or something.
 
Windows is bad at routing, so Wi-Fi direct isn't a good option that way. Too bad, but it is what it is?
 
arthur_tuxedo said:
Agreed, I love PCVR over Wi-Fi on my Q3. I want to caveat, though, that everyone should make sure to check the router model they have or are planning to buy to make sure it works well with the Quest. Meta’s Wi-Fi and USB connectivity implementations are both absolutely terrible, and you can have a hell of a time getting it to work properly if you buy the wrong equipment. I wanted to tear all my hair out trying to get a good experience on my old router, and trying to solve the problem with a wired USB 3 connection created as many headaches as it solved.* I finally (mostly) solved the issues with a Wi-Fi 6E router on the 6 GHz channel. The Virtual Desktop Discord channel maintains a list of recommended routers.

*[vent] I mean honestly, any multi-billion dollar company that screws up a simple wired USB-C connection must have its head six feet up its collective ass [/vent]
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People complain about issues with TP Link routers. I too have some problems with lag, but recently it has been working well. USB cable works better, but even that can have issues. What I don't like is if the wireless connection drops for a second it ends even if the USB is plugged into the PC. It would be nice if when the connection drops, it would fall back to the USB cable.

Though I recently did two games through wireless with the cable plugged in for charging (not at my PC) and it worked quite well. Exception was random crashing for Metro Awakening, not sure if that was a cable or Meta software issue. Half Life Alyx worked fine.
 
Flogger23m said:
People complain about issues with TP Link routers. I too have some problems with lag, but recently it has been working well. USB cable works better, but even that can have issues. What I don't like is if the wireless connection drops for a second it ends even if the USB is plugged into the PC. It would be nice if when the connection drops, it would fall back to the USB cable.

Though I recently did two games through wireless with the cable plugged in for charging (not at my PC) and it worked quite well. Exception was random crashing for Metro Awakening, not sure if that was a cable or Meta software issue. Half Life Alyx worked fine.
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Yes, my routers were TP Link. I bought them because of the price, but now I know what the “TP” stands for. Not making that mistake again!
 
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