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Global Microsoft outage hits due to CrowdStrike Update Definitions

I hear that Microsoft is trying to make a true statement.

$100* (10 times what Cloudstrike is offering)

* in Azure credits, new customers only.
 
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Lakados said:
The PC could be off but as long as it has power you can access it over a secured connection, for remote management, complete with virtual USB, keyboard, and mouse input, you can access system files and BIOS.
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BMC and iDRAC are hardware solutions, the cost and sheer complexity of deploying something like that to 50,000 pc's is insane.

I'm not really in the client space, but i'm not aware of ANY hardware solution capable of that.
 
Verge said:
BMC and iDRAC are hardware solutions, the cost and sheer complexity of deploying something like that to 50,000 pc's is insane.

I'm not really in the client space, but i'm not aware of ANY hardware solution capable of that.
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Every Intel system with a vPro badge, which is what corporate customers should be ordering anyway, has a built-in KVM over IP. IIRC, Intel AMT/IME supports a fair bit of automation
 
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Verge said:
BMC and iDRAC are hardware solutions, the cost and sheer complexity of deploying something like that to 50,000 pc's is insane.

I'm not really in the client space, but i'm not aware of ANY hardware solution capable of that.
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Cheaper than what it costs to fix it, not even including the down time, cancellations, and accommodations.
 
What I want to know is,
Do the financial impacts from an incident like this negate the savings from using cloud resources?
 
DukenukemX said:
Microsoft is too busy trying to make it's users pay a monthly fee instead of making a good OS.

View: https://youtu.be/U_ZXmq5D7GE?si=rkVOua1hXabyseKJ
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The meme from this video is not only golden, but absolutely true.
Talk about 20 minutes into the future...

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Wat said:
What I want to know is,
Do the financial impacts from an incident like this negate the savings from using cloud resources?
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No....
It makes them look better :(
Small cheap ARM-based thin-clients connecting back to a central data center via some form of remote desktop over some secure tunnel just became the new hot thing.
Better security, more efficiency with smaller IT teams, and centralized resources. Many of the newer AV suites for servers don't need to run on the VM just the machine that hosts them, so you have fewer needed licenses, and when shit seriously hits the fan you have a much smaller problem to fix.

The biggest argument against doing this was the initial costs of addressing a problem that can't happen, well the problem did happen, and the cleanup costs greatly exceeded the setup costs so... Yeah it's a strong option ATM.
Companies like Scale are going to make bank on this.
 
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I'm actually somewhat surprised that gate agent and ticket counter computers aren't thin clients.
 
Lakados said:
No....
It makes them look better :(
Small cheap ARM-based thin-clients connecting back to a central data center via some form of remote desktop over some secure tunnel just became the new hot thing.
Better security, more efficiency with smaller IT teams, and centralized resources. Many of the newer AV suites for servers don't need to run on the VM just the machine that hosts them, so you have fewer needed licenses, and when shit seriously hits the fan you have a much smaller problem to fix.

The biggest argument against doing this was the initial costs of addressing a problem that can't happen, well the problem did happen, and the cleanup costs greatly exceeded the setup costs so... Yeah it's a strong option ATM.
Companies like Scale are going to make bank on this.
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I've been seeing the writing on the wall for this for at least the last decade.
It's interesting that the pendulum is swinging back the other way, back to the mainframes and dummy terminals (remember time-sharing?) of the 1970s and 1980s.
 
Red Falcon said:
I've been seeing the writing on the wall for this for at least the last decade.
It's interesting that the pendulum is swinging back the other way, back to the mainframes and dummy terminals (remember time-sharing?) of the 1970s and 1980s.
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I do....
And I hope to never need to troubleshoot a printing/email issue on a token ring network ever again.
 
Verge said:
That costs a shitload of money no?
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Not really it adds maybe $100 to the cost of the device, the EMA management system is free, and it can even work to some degree with the non-vPRO CPU's but you lose out on some functionality, hell it even works with some AMD CPU's but Intel won't tell you that.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-endpoint-management-assistant-intel-ema.html

It takes maybe an hour to get configured and going, significantly less if you have an idea of what you are doing.
I bungled my Install the first time through by installing it on the wrong OS, I put it on Server 2022 Datacenter, it should have been standard so I had to rebuild it really fast and the second time I had the OS installed and the software configured in under an hour.
The various installer files to enroll the devices is easily packaged into Intune using the base content prep tool
https://github.com/microsoft/Intune-Win32-App-Packaging-Tool

But KVM over ethernet can be a life saver, it's not as good as a hardware solution like Dells iDRAC but it's a good second choice.
 
LodeRunner said:
As Lakados said, it might be a $100 CPU upgrade, if that. As a one time cost, the one time it saves a tech 2 hours of work + whatever employee time is saved, it just paid for itself.
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granted I have very few vPro CPU's at the moment, that will be changing as my procurement cycles move forward (assuming we don't jump ship for AMD or Apple) but one of the features in Intel EMA is the ability to "connect to files" which will load up the local hard drives where you can access the files there
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The system doesn't even need to be powered on at the time to load them, so for the CrowdStrike issue once they identified the fix as "delete the definitions file located at blah blah blah" you could script that have it connect to each machine that is managed in EMA and remove that file. It becomes a somewhat trivial issue to fix at that point as long as the device is hard wired, if it is wireless then you have some issues.
 
I wonder if Crowdstrike will go into bankruptcy? (administration for our UK friends.)

Are there any viable competitors to Crowdstrike? I'm sure all of their salespeople are busy calling up Crowdstrike customers right now.
 
philb2 said:
I wonder if Crowdstrike will go into bankruptcy? (administration for our UK friends.)

Are there any viable competitors to Crowdstrike? I'm sure all of their salespeople are busy calling up Crowdstrike customers right now.
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Lots none as large but they exist, I use SentinelOne, TrendMicro still does well, Sophos, and a handful of others. I’ve been told that Microsoft Advanced Endpoint Protection does a good job and has added anti crypto attack capabilities so there’s that too.
 
Lakados said:
Lots none as large but they exist, I use SentinelOne, TrendMicro still does well, Sophos, and a handful of others. I’ve been told that Microsoft Advanced Endpoint Protection does a good job and has added anti crypto attack capabilities so there’s that too.
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How many of those run the complex part of their code as a kernel module, too, though?
 
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