Give me one reason why should I go for an MBP 15 retina

Has anyone tried his hands on this new MBP15 retina with forced touch? I saw a video in youtube, while comparing the clicking, i felt, that implementation of forced touch made the click bit uncomfortable, compared to its predecessor. But that what I felt, what is your opinion?

I tried it on the 13, it was different but not by much from the previous track pad, I don't really have an opinion if it's for better or worse. Though the new MacBook keys I didn't not like, I hope they don't transition the bigger laptops to that keyboard
 
What is your openion on this force touch? Is it really worth to spend extra for this current generation MBPr 15 or will it be wise to save some money and get its predcessor, which doens't have forced touch?
 
What is your openion on this force touch? Is it really worth to spend extra for this current generation MBPr 15 or will it be wise to save some money and get its predcessor, which doens't have forced touch?

Personally I wouldn't buy the force touch. Wasting my battery to simulate a mechanical response pisses me off. But I also dim my screen way down, turn off keyboard lighting, turn off every power suck I can live without.

If human-kind had electricity all figured out where I never had to plug into a wall I wouldn't mind.
 
Personally I wouldn't buy the force touch. Wasting my battery to simulate a mechanical response pisses me off. But I also dim my screen way down, turn off keyboard lighting, turn off every power suck I can live without.

If human-kind had electricity all figured out where I never had to plug into a wall I wouldn't mind.

The battery life of this MBP is 9 hour if of heavy usage, how many hours, will someone use mechanical response? In terms of ease, how good is the force touch? I know it is something new, that will take time to get used to.
 
The battery life of this MBP is 9 hour if of heavy usage, how many hours, will someone use mechanical response? In terms of ease, how good is the force touch? I know it is something new, that will take time to get used to.

You're very optimistic about the MBP by adding "heavy usage" into their battery life usage scenarios when Apple's marketing literature doesn't even say that.

You will not get 9 hours. You will get "up to" 9 hours. If you're plodding away at something even slightly resource intensive you will get many hours less than 9. This is a fact of current battery capabilities.
 
The battery life of this MBP is 9 hour if of heavy usage, how many hours, will someone use mechanical response? In terms of ease, how good is the force touch? I know it is something new, that will take time to get used to.

9 hours is not heavy usage at all, its web browsing (see apples website). As soon as the external graphics kicks in your lucky to get 5 just light web browsing.
 
9 hours is not heavy usage at all, its web browsing (see apples website). As soon as the external graphics kicks in your lucky to get 5 just light web browsing.

In a smartphone, games, internet browsing and video (using 3G) drains most of the battery.

When I refer to heavy usage, I mean a 15 inch MacBook retina which has a massive resolution of 2880 X 1660 resolution, while browsing multiple web sites within different tab could cost a lot of resource, thus, can be considered a heavy usage. Same is while watching videos or youtube.

Playing resource intensive games like Crysis, Metro or GTA5 is beyond heavy (enthusastic usage) could drain the battery within hours.
 
I really like macs because in class demonstrations often switch between OS and parallel and running windows as well on a Mac allows me to be prepared for both situations. I feel that the program is a must.
 
Last weekend I went to an Apple Store and to see, how this force touch works. That time they didn't have latest version MBPr 15 with for demo. However they had 12 inch MacBook retina which has the force touch.

The guy over there had no knowledge on how to use force touch, when I got my hands on it, I tested the scrolling. I though that shallow touch might make scrolling slow, and forced touch would make it faster. But I didn't notice any difference.

Can someone describe me some real world scenerio, where this forced touch can be benefitted? Where can we utilize this forced touch functionality, for ease and speeding up the task?
 
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Just go to a store and look at the screen... gorgeous. Can really see the difference in clarity.
 
Last weekend I went to an Apple Store and to see, how this force touch works. That time they didn't have latest version MBPr 15 with for demo. However they had 12 inch MacBook retina which has the force touch.

The guy over there had no knowledge on how to use force touch, when I got my hands on it, I tested the scrolling. I though that shallow touch might make scrolling slow, and forced touch would make it faster. But I didn't notice any difference.

Can someone describe me some real world scenerio, where this forced touch can be benefitted? Where can we utilize this forced touch functionality, for ease and speeding up the task?
I love force touch. It's really the only reason I sold my perfectly good 2013 13" retina and bought the 2015 version. Supposedly, it's going to be on the next iPhone, too. Here's a pretty good summation of what it's all about.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/what-you-can-do-with-the-new-macbooks-force-touch-trackpad/
 
I haven't tried it but I'm curious how it works and when it would be useful.

I only use touch to click; I never use press to click so it might be more or less useful to me depending on what it's intended to do.
 
I love my MPB, it's a well built machine and AppleCare/Warranty service is second to none (the biggest reason we use them in our company - we rarely need it, and when we do, it's top notch service). We used to be a Dell shop, but we had a pretty high failure rate with them, and turn around on repair service was expensive (in terms of lost productivity, not so much in actual cost of the service). Apple products are not invincible, and I honestly don't know anything about the build quality of the latest generation of PC laptops, but our service/repair rate fell through the floor when we switched to Apple - so much so that while the capitol cost was much more (almost triple, if I'm honest), the much lower service/repair/downtime more than made up the cost difference.

A lot of our employees are still primarily Windows users, we provision it out via VMWare Fusion and continue to run OS X as the host OS - that adds an extra $150-$200 to the cost of the unit if you don't already have spare licenses laying about. Most people have kind of hybridized it - they do on Windows what they are comfortable doing on Windows, and they do on OS X what they learn there that is easier/faster/better, and there's no rebooting required to switch between the two, it's just alt-tab (or Command-Tab on Apple) to toggle between the two, with full file sharing and copy&paste support - pretty seamless. That division varies from person to person, but no one to date has totally discarded OS X and just went full Bootcamp Windows. The other nice thing about VM provisioning - when someone messes up their Windows installation, they can just download/reinstall a fresh copy and get right back up and running, very little down time, no fussing with backups/restores, and it can be done remotely fairly painlessly.

As big of a fan as I am - if I were just running Windows, I'd probably just go with a Windows machine - Bootcamp drivers aren't the best and aren't updated frequently. PC hardware has a much larger diversity to it, and you can get higher performing PC hardware than you can on the Apple side.
 
You're very optimistic about the MBP by adding "heavy usage" into their battery life usage scenarios when Apple's marketing literature doesn't even say that.

You will not get 9 hours. You will get "up to" 9 hours. If you're plodding away at something even slightly resource intensive you will get many hours less than 9. This is a fact of current battery capabilities.

I don't use mine heavily, but around the office I can go a full work day and then some completely on the battery and not even have to worry about it.

Now that isn't 8 hours a day at the computer non-stop - that's 10-20 minutes on email, then 10-20 minutes away from the computer (and it goes to sleep), and 15 minutes searching the web for (porn) work related material, then another 10-20 minutes away (and it goes back to sleep).

Using it that way, I probably get 8-9 hours of run time out of it, but that isn't heavy computational stuff, nor does it use a Discrete GPU. If i fire up something that puts some real load on the system, say Handbrake or a web page with a lot of Flash, yeah, that drops to 3-4 hours tops.

OS X is pretty good with energy management, and is good about telling you if you have a program/app that is draining your battery, I hear Windows via Bootcamp isn't nearly as saavy, but that could be as much Apple's fault for drivers as it is MS's fault.
 
Interesting thread as I'm looking to make the leap to OSX on my daily driver while hanging onto Windows for gaming. Of course I'm getting in with a five year old Macbook Pro to see if it's going to stick. My day job is Windows/IT admin stuff and frankly, I get my fill of Microsoft 8 hours of day. The iPad is the best electronic/computer device I've owned since my Amiga 500. Hoping OSX will make computers kinda fun again. Keep us posted on how it goes for you. :)
 
I'd just go with because until the new xps 15 comes out, pretty much ain't a better option on the market. Everything else skimps somewhere

This is coming from someone who refuses to use apple products. Unless your playing games there isn't a better option. HP is 100% shit across their entire line my opinion they are all built as cheaply as possible and you won't realiZe until you deal with something else

I work enterprise and for laptops its dell, apple, everything else. Apple is second because of dealing with rest of Microsoft infrastructure. For servers its ix systems and everything else
 
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