GIGABYTE AORUS FV43U 43 inch 4k 144 HDR1000 QLED monitor

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This is a display targeted at the gaming market, Can I ask why you decided to buy one for work?
Not the person you're asking, but I'm eye balling one of these and my primary purpose is work. Gaming is a pretty distant 3rd on the list, behind work and movies / other video stuff. The reason I'm looking at it is that the extra screen real estate is clutch, and it can moonlight as a gaming monitor as well.

I've been rocking a 40" samsung tv as a monitor for a couple years, and I'm having a difficult time imagining going down to something like a 32 inch display, despite those being a more popular choice for productivity. I also don't want to sacrifice the vertical real estate to get a curved monitor.
 

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Not the person you're asking, but I'm eye balling one of these and my primary purpose is work. Gaming is a pretty distant 3rd on the list, behind work and movies / other video stuff. The reason I'm looking at it is that the extra screen real estate is clutch, and it can moonlight as a gaming monitor as well.

I've been rocking a 40" samsung tv as a monitor for a couple years, and I'm having a difficult time imagining going down to something like a 32 inch display, despite those being a more popular choice for productivity. I also don't want to sacrifice the vertical real estate to get a curved monitor.
From the video review above - I think he mentioned GBR pixel layout... which may not bode well for work things like crisp, easy to read text. I could be wrong in this - but I think he said something about it.
 

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Mounting it upside down shouldn't be too difficult.
 
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Yet nobody has tested and or reported back on how good or bad vrr + bfi is on this stupid display.
I'd test this for you, but sorry I need to avoid any PWM/BFI/Flickering as it strains my eyes and gives me headaches.
It maybe just me but I was never bothered by GBR, Been using VA panels since my Samsung 40" 4K TV back in 2015.
I was a little worried about the BGR subpixel layout. On one of my previous jobs, some locations were using 27-32" 1080p TVs as their monitor, and I could clearly see the colorful text. I can't really see the difference on this FV43U. Even with my previous RGB monitor (32" 1440p VA) next to me, I can't see the difference.

When running the Windows clear type wizard, I can see a slight difference on the 1/5 screen, and I now choose the right instead of the left. But on the next 4 screens, I can't see a difference. The rest just looks like different levels of bold.

Even in Chrome, I'm trying to look for it, but I can't see it. Now my eyes aren't the best, but I think they're maybe slightly better than average.
 

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I was a little worried about the BGR subpixel layout. On one of my previous jobs, some locations were using 27-32" 1080p TVs as their monitor, and I could clearly see the colorful text. I can't really see the difference on this FV43U. Even with my previous RGB monitor (32" 1440p VA) next to me, I can't see the difference.

When running the Windows clear type wizard, I can see a slight difference on the 1/5 screen, and I now choose the right instead of the left. But on the next 4 screens, I can't see a difference. The rest just looks like different levels of bold.

Even in Chrome, I'm trying to look for it, but I can't see it. Now my eyes aren't the best, but I think they're maybe slightly better than average.
Use Better Cleartype Tuner to select BGR smoothing and compare that to RGB and grayscale. Pick whatever works best for you. Also play around with contrast.

Note that after any changes in the app you need to relaunch your other apps, e.g. web browser for things to stick. Chrome might be a bit of an asshole when it comes to respecting these settings though, Firefox should play nice.
 

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Use Better Cleartype Tuner to select BGR smoothing and compare that to RGB and grayscale. Pick whatever works best for you. Also play around with contrast.

Note that after any changes in the app you need to relaunch your other apps, e.g. web browser for things to stick. Chrome might be a bit of an asshole when it comes to respecting these settings though, Firefox should play nice.
EDIT: nevermind. I found the sub-pixel rendering options in Kubuntu. When I get the monitor I'll start there.

Any idea if there is a Linux equivalent? A quick google search didn't show anything ...
 
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Is it worth buying it overall?
I am on the fence.. I bought a LG 43UN700-B when it went on sale but I wanted a 120hz+ monitor for games so I may think about it or maybe fork up extra for the 48" LG C1 or CX.. I DUNNO...
 

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Why go thru all the hassle of mounting the monitor upside down, when you could easily mount your chair to the ceiling and then buckle in with Roller Coaster Grade safety harness?
I would but I have vertigo. :p

Still waiting for more opinions...
 

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G-Sync has flickering issue (or at least when using windowed mode) and the smearing just bothers me. I guess I have to return this monitor and wait for the 42" OLED after all lol. Once you go OLED, you can't go back!

I'm not afraid of burn-in either. LCD comes with nasty clouding out of the box, which is practically like burn-in XD
IMO nobody should ever use Gsync windowed mode. Fullscreen only or don't bother. I've never used a single monitor that didn't flicker with Gsync windowed and that includes the CX.
 

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Windowed g-sync has been totally broken for me for at least over a year now (although I haven't actually tried it again in the last couple of months) and has rapid fps/hz fluctuations which cause flickering and stuttering. Neither nvidia nor Microsoft can be bothered with it anymore, it feels like.

It's rarely needed anyway, for recent games, as they can generally bypass DWM and fullscreen g-sync mode will work just fine in windowed borderless mode then.

It used to work OK for years and I played with it quite a lot but some Windows or nvidia update might occasionally break it and then a hotfix would eventually be needed to restore it so it never was too reliable in the first place.
 

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Windowed g-sync has been totally broken for me for at least over a year now (although I haven't actually tried it again in the last couple of months) and has rapid fps/hz fluctuations which cause flickering and stuttering. Neither nvidia nor Microsoft can be bothered with it anymore, it feels like.

It's rarely needed anyway, for recent games, as they can generally bypass DWM and fullscreen g-sync mode will work just fine in windowed borderless mode then.

It used to work OK for years and I played with it quite a lot but some Windows or nvidia update might occasionally break it and then a hotfix would eventually be needed to restore it so it never was too reliable in the first place.
Works in windows borderless, but not windowed?
 

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Works in windows borderless, but not windowed?
To be fair I don't play any games in windowed non borderless mode so I'm not quite 100% on that. But there are several modern games that don't bother offering a proper fullscreen mode anymore (for example WoW) and yet g-sync works totally fine with the fullscreen-only option enabled in NVCP.
 

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To be fair I don't play any games in windowed non borderless mode so I'm not quite 100% on that. But there are several modern games that don't bother offering a proper fullscreen mode anymore (for example WoW) and yet g-sync works totally fine with the fullscreen-only option enabled in NVCP.
Huh. No experience with anything other than vsync. But I do like to alt+tab out of games regularly. Some games don't let you do it unless you have windowed or w/borderless. Given that my next monitor will be gsync or FreeSync I'm reading these critiques with interest
 

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Windowed borderless tends to impact performance on most games anyways, doesn't it?
As long as the display works well with Freesync/Gsync in full screen mode that's all I care about.

As I said, I have a 2080Ti w/5820k@4.3GHz so I could definitely use the Freesync here. I assume it will allow me to turn Vsync off and get a more even/less stuttery gameplay without it @4k at higher refresh rates?
 
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I have no idea what this person is saying but it does show some in game footage from a less manicured perspective like some other reviews.



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Not sure what overdrive setting is being used here (also there is a weird graphics anomaly on the menu a minuet or so before but im not sure if that's the game or not) Perhaps though it's just the way the camera has captured the footage but later on in the video the reviewer returns to this scene once again to demonstrate the artifacts.
 

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I have no idea what this person is saying but it does show some in game footage from a less manicured perspective like some other reviews.



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i have attached two more. This is at around 60fps.

Not sure what overdrive setting is being used here (also there is a weird graphics anomaly on the menu a minuet or so before but im not sure if that's the game or not) Perhaps though it's just the way the camera has captured the footage but later on in the video the reviewer returns to this scene once again to demonstrate the artifacts.

I think his overall review is good tho- at least that's what I'm gathering from the comments. He does speak English so I asked him directly what he thinks of it, hopefully I'll get a response and a good overall review written up soon.
 

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So is there still noticable ghosting and or overshoot?

I have only used a hand full of different VA panels over the past few years and I really dislike them all, the color vibrancy feels so low compared to IPS, and I am very sensitive to ghosting/overshoot I notice it all the time on VA panels. Even the Samsung G7 has too much overshoot for me I am getting rid of it.

Currently using the new Aorus FI27Q-X and absolutely loving everything about it except the fact that it's only 27". I can't wait for the FI32U Aorus to come out.

Tempted to still try out this new FV43U though.
 

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So is there still noticable ghosting and or overshoot
The guy in the video review a page or so ago says yes.

Did compliment the panel for minimal ghosting & overshoot compared to other va panels - but said competitive / FPS players would be disappointed.

Console and casual players will be impressed
 

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Well, finally had time to spend more time on the Fv43U at the office still not much but I can say that this is better than the CG437K that I've been using for over a year. Especially with the price difference.

The FV43U looks great right out of the box no matter if Windows HDR is on or off (looks like it auto detect HDR signals) Can go 144Hz with single DP cable at 4:4:4 full bandwidth, while the Cg437K HDR1000 mode is searing bright if you do not turn on HDR in Windows. But if you turn on windows HDR in any mode other than HDR1000 on the monitor, the image look washed out until you set the monitor to HDR1000 mode and the color still lose a bit of saturation until you go into nVidia control panel and bring contrast up to 80% (default 50). It took me a while to figure out all the best settings. Also, the CG437K can only do RGB 8 bit at 120 at full dynamic range but only limited if you use 4:4:4.

I was also talking to an associate at a major PC manufacturer and I was told that 43" panel are in short supply (probably why Gigabyte is only releasing it to Newegg) and they expect price to go up. If you're eyeing the FV43U, I would suggest getting it soon.
 
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Alright, I ordered it. My samsung is on the way out and there aren't any stellar options in the 40-43" space. If the C1 42 were out that would be a no brainer, but this will have to do.
 

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What is the HDR like on these sorts of panels without much local dimming zones?

I am using a CX48 atm and HDR quality in certain games is just mind blowing. But I want to downsize because I am still not liking the 48" size of it.

I am interested in the FV43U but wondeing if I will be take a massive downgrade in HDR quality compared to the CX?
 

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What is the HDR like on these sorts of panels without much local dimming zones?

I am using a CX48 atm and HDR quality in certain games is just mind blowing. But I want to downsize because I am still not liking the 48" size of it.

I am interested in the FV43U but wondeing if I will be take a massive downgrade in HDR quality compared to the CX?

The only advantage an OLED has is true black and no blooming but I only notice some minor blooming on static screen, very slow pan/scroll like end credits and around subtitles. The rest of the time, I don't really notice it. As for Black, this VA panel gets pretty dark. Although it's only a games, but Mass Effect Legendary Edition calibration put the FV43U right on "0" on HDR Contrast (was on "1" when I took this pictures out of the box using HDMI 2.0 4K @60Hz from my 2080, I ended up setting it at "0" after getting a long enough DP cable and got it running 4K@144Hz) for the black setting and 1000 on HDR Brightness.

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Coming from a CX you'll actually notice much better HDR performance as the CX only managed it's peak 800nits with very agressive ABL settings. Here's what rtings.com has to say:

The LG CX has decent HDR peak brightness, but it may not be enough to bring out some highlights in HDR. There's quite a bit of variation when displaying different content, and it gets the least bright with large areas, which is caused by the aggressive ABL.
 
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Yeah I don't agree with the above at all. I had both this and the CX side by side and the difference in HDR between the two is massive. The only situation this monitor impresses is best case scenario like a game that's outdoors/etc. Anything with mixed content which is 90% of stuff and it's pretty poor which is why I was surprised by the Toms 6000:1 measurement because to my eye blacks still looked pretty gray.

The only reason I sold it is because I had both duplicated and panned the camera in RE Village which was enough for me to get it off my desk. Going from OLED to LCD pixel response is just painful.
 

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The only advantage an OLED has is true black and no blooming
Umm, did you forget that OLEDs have infinite contrast? I bet that plays a part in picture quality in HDR even if CX tops out at 800 nits?

Coming from a CX you'll actually notice much better HDR performance as the CX only get a 7.1 on HDR brightness even with a very aggressive ABL. Here's what rtings.com has to say:

The LG CX has decent HDR peak brightness, but it may not be enough to bring out some highlights in HDR. There's quite a bit of variation when displaying different content, and it gets the least bright with large areas, which is caused by the aggressive ABL.

Full review here: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/cx-oled

But is the extra 100 or so nits really a big difference? Is there any other factor to HDR to compare it to? I have played a few HDR games on the CX and the brightness is definitely bright enough, and like I said before the quality of HDR is nothing short of superb on the CX.

But I have viewed some video reviews on the FV43U and I did hear that this panel does actually have really good HDR performance. That's good to hear. But then the chinese video review guy shows us the noticeable ghosting. I am very sensitive to ghosting and overshoot, i can even see it on the Odyssey G7 which is suppose to be the fastest VA panel.

Goddam I can't win with displays lol

I am still tempted to get it though. But it would be nice to hear about a comparison from someone who also uses a CX.
 

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Oh yeah I just saw Socali guys post.

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If you haven't seen the CX HDR game in person than you will have no idea, your just comparing what's on paper. I thought if it was a small HDR quality difference then maybe I will consider the FV43U, but since Socali had them side by side and says there is a huge difference then I am definitely put off.

Such a shame though, because I really want to downsize from the CX48.
 

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Yeah I don't agree with the above at all. I had both this and the CX side by side and the difference in HDR between the two is massive. The only situation this monitor impresses is best case scenario like a game that's outdoors/etc. Anything with mixed content which is 90% of stuff and it's pretty poor which is why I was surprised by the Toms 6000:1 measurement because to my eye blacks still looked pretty gray.

The only reason I sold it is because I had both duplicated and panned the camera in RE Village which was enough for me to get it off my desk. Going from OLED to LCD pixel response is just painful.

I guess it also depend on the environment. I don't work in a dark room. This is the ambient light light level at my home office during the morning and it get a bit brighter in the early afternoon.

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This is the ambient light level at my office, it's brighter with windows on 2 sides (shaded) and overhead lighting.

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The CX only manage the 817 nits with very aggressive ABL and only by dimming the rest of the screen way above what other company would. While it gets 817 nit at 10% it drops to 465 at 25% and a dismal 311 at 50%. That alone makes it totally useless unless it's in a very dark room. Even a Sony X90J while only getting 786 nits at 10% can still get 656 at 25% and 558 at 50%. Try playing RE8 in these environment and see how far you can get.

BTW. while it's not as bright as the CX, this is what a 2019 Sony AG9 looks like during the late afternoon if you only have light shades.

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And this is what a Samsung Q90T looks like with similar ambient lights

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Oh. Before someone say that I have never experienced a CX. I bought this after seeing the AG9 at night (before I saw it during the day and took those pictures) and had it in the same spot for a couple months before I promptly dumped it for the Q90T

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Conclusion, OLED is unusable unless you tailor the environment to it. for use in a average home or office without using blackout curtains. You're much better of with a good QLED.
 
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To me it just makes sense to have some sort of blackout curtains available in any space where you plan to put a TV. I have a curtain next to my huge window and I have that half closed and using my LG C9 in the living room is no problem even in daylight. Any TV will struggle with enough light pouring in regardless of the tech.
 

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To me it just makes sense to have some sort of blackout curtains available in any space where you plan to put a TV. I have a curtain next to my huge window and I have that half closed and using my LG C9 in the living room is no problem even in daylight. Any TV will struggle with enough light pouring in regardless of the tech.

Why would anyone turn a beautiful home into a dark cave just to watch TV is beyond me. Now If I have a dedicated theater room, that's a difference story. Also, in a lot of newer house with a open floorplan (like the one with the AG9), it's impractical if not impossible to achieve a low enough light level for OLED to work in day time. How about in a office work environment? How do you work in a dark office?

P.S. Thanks for agreeing with me that a OLED does not work in an average home or office during day time 😜
 
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Why would anyone turn a beautiful home into a dark cave just to watch TV is beyond me. Now If I have a dedicated theater room, that's a difference story. Also, in a lot of newer house with a open floorplan (like the one with the AG9), it's impractical if not impossible to achieve a low enough light level for OLED to work in day time. How about in a office work environment? How do you work in a dark office?

P.S. Thanks for agreeing with me that a OLED does not work in an average home or office during day time 😜


If that's how you've been using your OLED then it all makes sense. Pretty sure most of us use our OLEDs in bedrooms with much lower ambient lighting. I don't like playing games or watching movies with a ton of ambient light anyways (You wouldn't want movie theatres to keep the lights on during your movie do you?). But most VA panels still lags behind alot in the motion clarity department compared to OLED.
 
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If that's how you've been using your OLED then it all makes sense. Pretty sure most of us use our OLEDs in bedrooms with much lower ambient lighting. I don't like playing games or watching movies with a ton of ambient light anyways (You wouldn't want movie theatres to keep the lights on during your movie do you?). But most VA pabels still lags behind alot in the motion clarity department compared to OLED.

Theater is totally different. Even the best projection system iMax and Digital DLP can only reach about 300 nits peaks on theater size screen. That's why you don't want any ambient lights. But for home, especially nowadays with HDR hitting over 1500 nits on a lot of TVs. It's much better for your eyes if you have some ambient lights behind the TV at night. it really reduces eye strains over long period. That's why you can actually see the back mounted LED ambient glow behind the TV (green)/Monitor(blue) in my living room and home office. Don't have them at the office FV43U as I don't work late (well, at least not after sunset).
 
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Calibrating the Aorus FV43U with a colorimeter improved its dE average to 0.91 which is already within range of professional use. However, it’s only necessary if you are going to use it for professional endeavors. Its HDR mode is fantastic for both movies and games, and you’ll soon find that it’s the only mode you will use on a daily basis.

The Aorus FV43U peaked at 845 cd/m2 in SDR and around 1091 cd/m2 when HDR is active. It reached a contrast of 5427:1 in SDR, but the backlight expanded that to around 40000:1 for superb HDR imagery and effects. Its capable of deep blacks and extreme levels of detail, so HDR-compatible games and media will look quite satisfying.

https://www.monitornerds.com/aorus-...4hz-gaming-monitor-with-usb-c-editors-choice/

Another good review.
 

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I dunno I mean my room has a window to its side and I have my CX calibrated to 100nits. Lots of light means lots of reflections and a generally unpleasant viewing/gaming experience for me so it's brightness isn't an issue for my use case.

Your issues are completely environment related (I can literally see your entire house in the OLEDs reflection). This is just another case of "will OLED be okay with these windows" as seen on reddit everyday.

Many here want the absolute best PQ and if that means accomdating the display in whatever fashion necessary.

I keep seeing brightness being brought up as if it's the only metric to judge a display but IMO the pixel response between a CX and Samsung's best LCD is massive. What good is that brightness if motion looks like the entire display is covered in Vaseline.
 

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I dunno I mean my room has a window to its side and I have my CX calibrated to 100nits. Lots of light means lots of reflections and a generally unpleasant viewing/gaming experience for me so it's brightness isn't an issue for my use case.

Your issues are completely environment related (I can literally see your entire house in the OLEDs reflection). This is just another case of "will OLED be okay with these windows" as seen on reddit everyday.

Many here want the absolute best PQ and if that means accomdating the display in whatever fashion necessary.

I keep seeing brightness being brought up as if it's the only metric to judge a display but IMO the pixel response between a CX and Samsung's best LCD is massive. What good is that brightness if motion looks like the entire display is covered in Vaseline.

Well, it kinda depends on what kind of games you play and what you use the monitor for. I do a fairly amount of media viewing (including 4K Blu-rays) other than gaming and probably the most fpsish games I play is Mass effect LE and other ARPG and FFXIV. Maybe I'm just not as sensitive to ghosting as I have no problem even on my older CG437K. I guess if your main concern is gaming performance and am willing to use an environment that is dark. then the OLED may work for you.
 
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