GIGABYTE AORUS FV43U 43 inch 4k 144 HDR1000 QLED monitor

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What is "Monitor" Size? Seems people are perfectly happy using a 48" CX as a monitor. With Micro-LED launching with a 78" model this year. I don't think it will take till 2030 for a 49" unit to appear. I'll say by 2024 model year if not sooner (the next Samsung 49" superwide?) . Also, if you're talking about smaller panels, the following mini-LED HDR1000+ monitor (most will offer 1152 zones) will be release this year. over 1000 zones in a monitor that size, do you really need MicroLED?

ASUS PG32UQX : 32" IPS 4K 144Hz, Rec.2020 89.5%, HDR1400, Gsync Ultimate, MiniLED 1152 zones, DSC
ACER X32 : 32" IPS 4K 144Hz, Rec.2020 89.5%, HDR1400, Gsync Ultimate, MiniLED 1152 zones, DSC
Viewsonic XG321UG : 32" IPS 4K 144Hz, Rec.2020 89.5%, HDR1400, Gsync Ultimate, MiniLED 1152 zones, DSC
ASUS PG27UQX : 27” IPS 4K 144Hz, DCI-P3 97%, HDR1000, Gsync Ultimate, MiniLED 576 zones
ASUS PA32UCG : 32” IPS 4K 120Hz, DCI-P3 97%, HDR1600, Dolby Vision, Freesync, MiniLED 1152 zones, OCO, HDMI 2.1
ASUS PA32UCX-P
: 32” IPS 4K 60Hz, DCI-P3 99%, HDR1000, 1200nits, Dolby Vision, Freesync, MiniLED 1152 zones, OCO
ASUS PA27UCX-P : 27” IPS 4K 60Hz, DCI-P3 99%, HDR1000, 1200nits, Dolby Vision, Freesync, MiniLED 1152 zones, OCO
DELL UP3221Q : 31.5” IPS 4K 60Hz, DCI-P3, HDR1000, MiniLED 2000 zones
It is quite disappointing that these are all IPS. IPS looks terrible compared to VA panels.
 

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You keep saying this; but I don't think the words mean what you think they mean.
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I feel the same way about VA; but then I don't game in the dark.
Go to rtings and look at the TV reviews. I tried a 65" IPS TV. It looked terrible compared to the quantum dot VA panel I returned it for. I currently have a 144 Hz IPS gaming monitor that looks terrible compared to the same VA television. The IPS looks noticeably worse even in day light. It's so bad picture quality wise.
 
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Go to rtings and look at the TV reviews. I tried a 65" IPS TV. It looked terrible compared to the quantum dot VA panel I returned it for. I currently have a 144 Hz IPS gaming monitor that looks terrible compared to the same VA television. The IPS looks noticeably worse even in day light. It's so bad picture quality wise.

You are talking about 1 kind of expensive VA design that's--surprise!-designed to look like IPS with a special filter layer. Your typical VA design doesn't look anything like a QLED display, not to mention QLEDs cost more than OLEDs in many cases.

As a general rule it's not hard to take the best example of something and make it look good when compared to the average or lower end of something else.
 

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You are talking about 1 kind of expensive VA design that's--surprise!-designed to look like IPS with a special filter layer. Your typical VA design doesn't look anything like a QLED display, not to mention QLEDs cost more than OLEDs in many cases.

As a general rule it's not hard to take the best example of something and make it look good when compared to the average or lower end of something else.
It is not designed to look like an IPS at all. Quantum dot is fairly run of the mill these days. They add quantum dot layers to IPS televisions now too. VA panels have much more vibrant colors, superior contrast, and better blacks. Viewing angle is the only thing that IPS does better.
 

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It is not designed to look like an IPS at all. Quantum dot is fairly run of the mill these days. They add quantum dot layers to IPS televisions now too. VA panels have much more vibrant colors, superior contrast, and better blacks. Viewing angle is the only thing that IPS does better.

Well here's the thing. Those VA TV's look do awesome yes, but you are kind of comparing apples to oranges by using more expensive QLED TV's as your basis for comparison. Have you seen the majority of VA monitors? Completely different story, while those more expensive high end QLED VA TV's can easily get native contrast ratios <5000:1 and have local dimming and great color gamut, most VA monitors are just trash. Edge lit with no local dimming, struggling to break <2000:1 native contrast, bad colors. I can easily see why some would rather just use an IPS when it comes to monitors because a VA monitor doesn't really offer much better image quality and is more of a sidegrade for some.
 
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Go to rtings and look at the TV reviews. I tried a 65" IPS TV. It looked terrible compared to the quantum dot VA panel I returned it for. I currently have a 144 Hz IPS gaming monitor that looks terrible compared to the same VA television. The IPS looks noticeably worse even in day light. It's so bad picture quality wise.
So - for a 65 inch TV (or heck, any TV) that I sit 8-15 feet from... the downsides of VA are minimized. I do, also, watch TV in the dark, and VA panels in the TV use-mode don't bug me.

VA on the other hand is just not very good as a monitor. Sitting 3 feet or less from the screen, every time I move my head a few inches, the color shift is noticeable. On my IPS, the image remains true no matter how much I move around. Also, I'm on a high-quality IPS, and outside of some really dark scenes it looks fantastic -- in fact for almost every scene I can imagine except for the few and rare super-dark parts of a map... it's awesome. (Full disclosure: it's 10 years old, and while the reviews of the time did compliment its color accuracy and responsiveness, its black depths and contrast were criticized... but I've never felt I was really missing out given that truly dark scenes are not all that common in games).

VA's strengths is as a TV: given that TV and Movies very rarely have scrolling images (most scenes are filmed against a static, or effectively static / slowly panning background with the actors moving within the frame) - as opposed to the games I play (FPS or Story-driven single player FP / 3d person games) where the image scrolls every time I look about... those type of games on VA look really bad. Perhaps you have found a rare VA panel that corrects the things I find problematic about these - and that's great. But the one's I've seen don't click with me. Neither do TNs (for wholly different reasons).
 

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So - for a 65 inch TV (or heck, any TV) that I sit 8-15 feet from... the downsides of VA are minimized. I do, also, watch TV in the dark, and VA panels in the TV use-mode don't bug me.

VA on the other hand is just not very good as a monitor. Sitting 3 feet or less from the screen, every time I move my head a few inches, the color shift is noticeable. On my IPS, the image remains true no matter how much I move around. Also, I'm on a high-quality IPS, and outside of some really dark scenes it looks fantastic -- in fact for almost every scene I can imagine except for the few and rare super-dark parts of a map... it's awesome. (Full disclosure: it's 10 years old, and while the reviews of the time did compliment its color accuracy and responsiveness, its black depths and contrast were criticized... but I've never felt I was really missing out given that truly dark scenes are not all that common in games).

VA's strengths is as a TV: given that TV and Movies very rarely have scrolling images (most scenes are filmed against a static, or effectively static / slowly panning background with the actors moving within the frame) - as opposed to the games I play (FPS or Story-driven single player FP / 3d person games) where the image scrolls every time I look about... those type of games on VA look really bad. Perhaps you have found a rare VA panel that corrects the things I find problematic about these - and that's great. But the one's I've seen don't click with me. Neither do TNs (for wholly different reasons).

All depends on the size of monitor you're using, I went 43" VA both at home and office and never looked back.
 

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Consumer prices were high in the 1970s because most manufacturing was made either in Japan or in the West. High labor costs = high cost of production. Now most pieces of the supply chain have been outsourced to countries with much lower cost of living.

As far as your house, there just wasn't much demand for housing in the 60s and 70s. Natural population growth had mostly cratered in the US by the 1960s, back when the US was taking about 50k immigrants a year. The US now takes in around 2-3 million a year. Big difference in housing demand. The average house in the US could be bought with about 2.5 years of median wages in 1960s-1980s. Today it's more like 10+ years median wages.

Supply and demand determines pricing. And big booms in immigration started in the 1990s after Clinton passed the H1-B program. Obviously people who bought housing in Silicon Valley in the 60s to the 80s are reaping huge returns on that investment now.

No, it's about how hard you work and how successful you are. I was able to spend 3% of a 2500 sq ft house on a TV back then and was using $8K projections in the 90s and $10K plasma in the early 2000s. So if they produce a 43" MicroLED monitor in a few years in the $5-8K range. I would not blink picking it up.
 
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No, it's about how hard you work and how successful you are. I was able to spend 3% of a 2500 sq ft house on a TV back then and was using $8K projections in the 90s and $10K plasma in the early 2000s. So if they produce a 43" MicroLED monitor in a few years in the $5-8K range. I would not blink picking it up.

I like how you made sure to clarify that hard work and successful were separate categories, haha.
 

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No, it's about how hard you work and how successful you are. I was able to spend 3% of a 2500 sq ft house on a TV back then and was using $8K projections in the 90s and $10K plasma in the early 2000s. So if they produce a 43" MicroLED monitor in a few years in the $5-8K range. I would not blink picking it up.
I don't see how any of these new high end monitors can come in at a higher price than OLED. OLED is the quality point that they are trying to get close to.
 

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No, the FI32U is UHD. That is what the 'U' in the model name is for.
I'm getting so confused by alphanumeric gobbledygook and product sites that redirect me to existing models. I swear I Googled FI32U and must have ended up on Gigabyte's 'Q' page - which caused the confusion

Thanks
 

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I'm getting so confused by alphanumeric gobbledygook and product sites that redirect me to existing models. I swear I Googled FI32U and must have ended up on Gigabyte's 'Q' page - which caused the confusion

Thanks
Yes, it's actually a nice change of pace for Gigabyte to use a sensical model naming scheme. You want confusing just look at the mess of a system Acer uses.
 

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Oh I know - all over it... And AUO's panel numbers and Viewsonic's, LG's etc. etc etc. My head is so full of stupid long alphanumbers that I actually wish there was some sort of industry standard that we could just say 'Gigabyte's 4k gaming 32' or "Asus' gaming/pro 4k 32" and not have to ask 'what is the difference between the UQ and UQX'???
 

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I'm leaning toward this as my next monitor if pricing speculation proves accurate. I think it could sell very well for a monitor in this price range.

I still haven't ruled out the Odyssey G9 or the soon to be released update for that model. I'm not too keen on ultra widescreen gaming but would save me from having to use a 2nd monitor on the side for work.

Advantage with this one though is it works much better with a ps5 and I'd rather have one display that does everything instead of using a tv as well.
 

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Yes, it's actually a nice change of pace for Gigabyte to use a sensical model naming scheme. You want confusing just look at the mess of a system Acer uses.
Samsung is still the king of model name monsters that even change per region. I also hate how every model needs to have an X or Z in it.
 

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Oh I know - all over it... And AUO's panel numbers and Viewsonic's, LG's etc. etc etc. My head is so full of stupid long alphanumbers that I actually wish there was some sort of industry standard that we could just say 'Gigabyte's 4k gaming 32' or "Asus' gaming/pro 4k 32" and not have to ask 'what is the difference between the UQ and UQX'???
There are SO many different models it can drive anyone crazy!

 
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When these types of panels get mini-led (high refresh, hdmi 2.1 of course) and have a decent response time across the range, il take the plunge. Im okay with it being VA so long as the GTG transmissions are good and they are not bargain basement BGR panels marked up in prices because of a 'gamer' aesthetic. Perhaps the next generation will be this, hopefully with a tasteful professional look aesthetic. It will be an alternative to a smart TV for me.
 

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If they perform like the latest Samsung VA’s they’ll sell like hot cakes. I don’t think they will, but I can always dream.
 

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I had the XG438Q before, and it had horrendous black smearing, to the point of making me sick.

I sold it for an IPS monitor and it was tons better.
Having said that, I am using the G7 atm and am pleased to say it has no ghosting issues except for some overshoot with VRR enabled in my experience. But I just disable any VRR anyways and monitor is very fast and responsive.
 

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When these types of panels get mini-led (high refresh, hdmi 2.1 of course) and have a decent response time across the range, il take the plunge. Im okay with it being VA so long as the GTG transmissions are good and they are not bargain basement BGR panels marked up in prices because of a 'gamer' aesthetic. Perhaps the next generation will be this, hopefully with a tasteful professional look aesthetic. It will be an alternative to a smart TV for me.

If you can fit a 50" on you desk. The 50" Samsung QN90A will be available in June for $1500 with mini LEDs, HDMI 2.1 and 4K@120 VRR. If I can rearrange my desk to take one in my home office. I'll probably get one and take my CG437K to the office. I have a 3070 laptop hooked up to my 75" Q90T and it looks spectacular.

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Ok so the FV43U has QLED, does that mean the PG43UQ is also a QLED panel?
PG43UQ is only 90% P3 color space, so it's not quantum dot and looks to be using the same AUO panel the prior 43" version did.

I'm hopeful the Aorus panel is using a newer Samsung panel, so hopefully the response times are better.
 

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If you can fit a 50" on you desk. The 50" Samsung QN90A will be available in June for $1500 with mini LEDs, HDMI 2.1 and 4K@120 VRR. If I can rearrange my desk to take one in my home office. I'll probably get one and take my CG437K to the office. I have a 3070 laptop hooked up to my 75" Q90T and it looks spectacular.

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For the same price I'd rather get the LG C1. The brightness of the QN90A is nice for couch watching, but even the 1000 nit peak brightness is sometimes too much at desktop sitting distance with my PG27UQ.
 

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Cheaper than I expected. An HDMI 2.1 monitor at that size is going to attract some interest for sure.
 

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For the same price I'd rather get the LG C1. The brightness of the QN90A is nice for couch watching, but even the 1000 nit peak brightness is sometimes too much at desktop sitting distance with my PG27UQ.

Well I've had a CG437K on my desk now with 1000nit for over a year with no problem (having those ambient LED strip in the back really helps). It's also doesn't go that bright unless your in HDR mode and that's usually only when I watch media or game and I usually just sit back a little more for those. I think I can fit a 50" on my desk but I may have to set it further back which means I may need to get new computer distance reading glasses between home and office (also use a 43" at same distance at office). We'll see when the unit comes out.

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Well I've had a CG437K on my desk now with 1000nit for over a year with no problem (having those ambient LED strip in the back really helps). It's also doesn't go that bright unless your in HDR mode and that's usually only when I watch media or game and I usually just sit back a little more for those. I think I can fit a 50" on my desk but I may have to set it further back which means I may need to get new computer distance reading glasses between home and office (also use a 43" at same distance at office). We'll see when the unit comes out.

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I don't use HDR outside of gaming. In SDR mode I have my monitor calibrated to 150 nits.
 

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That's about what I paid for my CG437K. If I'm not trying to see if I can fit a 50" QN90A on my desk. I would get this right now. I may still get one if I decided against the QN90A to replace the 43" Vizio M at the office.
 
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That price came into my inbox and I cancelled my pending cx 48 and pulled the trigger. I think after 5 years I have decided my Wasabi Mango 55 is just too big for 2-3 feet away. I definitely believed all of you about the greatness of the cx but I had 2 reasons to hesitate. Brightness(I hate gaming or watching movies in a dark room) and I do have anxiety about burn-in. I know it can be mitigated but I just don't want the hassle or worry. I want to plug in play and leave the thing on for 8 hours a day for 5 years. So I am going to give this a shot, I will report back.
 
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