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I think it will be good, I need to start a company to remove sticks from peoples asses for 5 dollars.
I didn't think much of the movie even before the trailer and now I think even less of it.
The original movie worked because the story and the characters were made out to be real and serious but with comedic aspects to some of the characters and the situations.
I salute you with my cane.![]()
Horrible, horrible, horrible. Can't stand McCarthy as I don't think she's funny, and I'm tired of Hollywood trying to ruin fond childhood memories for me.
Horrible, horrible, horrible. Can't stand McCarthy as I don't think she's funny, and I'm tired of Hollywood trying to ruin fond childhood memories for me.
Agreer 100%. As an 80's kid I feel like the studios are trying to ruin great movies I grew up with one at a time.
They "ruin" it with the claim that the original is obviously misogynist and thus evil. Like Hitler level evil ... just ask any of the activists. Making the ghostbusters female is social justice in regards to that evil.How can they ruin the old movies? It is not logical to believe that any new movie can ruin something that came before it. You can still buy 1 & 2. They released them on blu-ray recently. Sony isn't going to come to your house and take away your old movies and burn them. They aren't going to erase your memories of them. The only way they can "ruin" anything is if you allow them the new thing to influence your feelings of the old, which is insane.
They "ruin" it with the claim that the original is obviously misogynist and thus evil. Like Hitler level evil ... just ask any of the activists. Making the ghostbusters female is social justice in regards to that evil.
Let's see...
Racist caricature token black woman.
Funny because fat.
Everyone is a comedian.
Ghostbusters was funny because for the most part the characters took everything within the universe seriously. Yes, Venkman was the obviously comical character thrown into the mix, but that's just it... it was a "mix". Winston wasn't a scientist, but he wasn't doing some shuck and jive routine either. That character was simply the "relatable" one, and the fact that Ernie Hudson is black wasn't even a factor in how the character responded to anything at all. If they were to replace this actress with Tyler Perry they could re-title it Madea's Halloween Adventure and it wouldn't make a difference. I don't care that it's women doing the ghostbusting, but everything else about it just looks horrible.
So at what point would it not be racist? I'm asking seriously here. Does it have to be an all black cast? Sometimes it seems as if everything in life is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" I think the entire cast sucks... and using a cult classic like ghostbusters as some feminist platform just takes away from what the original was. I have no problem with whatever race they cast as long as it's a good movie... I will say though the female equivalent of Winston looks like a prison style lesbian that could whip any one of our asses. Winston was great because he was so cool, so laid back, not south loud mouth
Melissa McCarthy was kind of funny in "spy" - jason staham was better even though his part was minor. For this movie... Ecto1 looks like shit, their proton packs look retarded, the only thing that looks to be on point is the CGI representation of Slimer.
The only thing i liked about the trailer was the modernized ghostbusters theme music.
So at what point would it not be racist? I'm asking seriously here. Does it have to be an all black cast? Sometimes it seems as if everything in life is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" I think the entire cast sucks... and using a cult classic like ghostbusters as some feminist platform just takes away from what the original was. I have no problem with whatever race they cast as long as it's a good movie... I will say though the female equivalent of Winston looks like a prison style lesbian that could whip any one of our asses. Winston was great because he was so cool, so laid back, not south loud mouth
Melissa McCarthy was kind of funny in "spy" - jason staham was better even though his part was minor. For this movie... Ecto1 looks like shit, their proton packs look retarded, the only thing that looks to be on point is the CGI representation of Slimer.
The only thing i liked about the trailer was the modernized ghostbusters theme music.
Its budget is 154 million, making that back opening weekend would put it in the top 10 most successful opening weekend movies. I don't suppose you want to bet on those numbers?I disagree. While the critics might not enjoy it much, it'll definitely make back its budget and then some on its opening weekend.
I would have given it a chance as a sequel, but as a reboot for some reason I don't think I will watch it. Reboots are funny in that unless there is something in it that I think was lacking in the original and fixed in the reboot then I always find it is done poorly. Now it might be unfair for me to compare the full Ghostbusters original movie to a trailer, but nothing in the trailer made me think, oh yeah that was something I thought should have been changed in the original.
I can't stand Melissa McCarthy...
The power of pain compels me to skip this.
Have you seen Spy? Not a fan of her either, but she was freaking hilarious in that, one of the funniest movies I've seen in a while. The "Q" scene where she gets outfitted with more and more ridiculous spy gear e.g. C4 in a giant tube of haemorrhoid cream is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.
The trailer for this, however, makes the rebook look like a CGI'ed vanilla cash in. Ghostbusters III: The Search for More Money. Think of the moychundizing!
I thought she said "The power of Patty compels you" since her character's name is Patty. If she said pain instead, that makes it an even worse line.
I guess I wasn't clear enough, but you seem to have answered your question in your own post. Yes, Winston was cool, laid back, not a loud mouth, not a genius but had some more common sense compared to the rest of the characters. You know what Winston wasn't? A carbon copy of Shaft. The character happened to be black, without "being black" as the defining trait of the character. This character that's supposed to be the female equivalent of Winston simply isn't. Why? Because Winston didn't spend a large portion of the movie(or the trailers) acting like a stereotypical black male.So at what point would it not be racist? I'm asking seriously here. Does it have to be an all black cast? Sometimes it seems as if everything in life is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" I think the entire cast sucks... and using a cult classic like ghostbusters as some feminist platform just takes away from what the original was. I have no problem with whatever race they cast as long as it's a good movie... I will say though the female equivalent of Winston looks like a prison style lesbian that could whip any one of our asses. Winston was great because he was so cool, so laid back, not south loud mouth
A bit stereotypical? The jokes aren't good. They're played out, tired, old, boring, heard them a million times. If this is that actress' entire shtick, then she's just not funny. It's the same reason I listed "funny because fat", as the fat character is pretty much doing the same thing(except as a woman) that we've seen everyone from John Candy and Chris Farley up through Kevin James do. If it's stupid when Kevin James does it, why would it be any better if a woman does it? Have the out of shape character, but give them a defining trait other than "the funny fat one".I don't get it either. Yes, it's a bit stereotypical but if the jokes were actually good it really wouldn't matter. Leslie Jones in the movie is her shtick and she's usually really funny with it. If people have a problem with Leslie Jones in Ghostbusters they REALLY should take a look at Tyler Perry.
Pretty much. Why can't one of the smart people be black? Why does the only black cast member have to be a walking stereotype? I'm a black man, I don't walk around with sagging pants, a grill, blasting rap music(I'm more of a Pantera guy), swisher hanging out of my mouth, and so on. I've met plenty of black women who don't act like the "I'm a big loud strong independent woman who don't need no man and my answer for everything is to slap them". This is the equivalent of having a token gay character in a movie or TV show that happens to be a flaming queen that speaks with a lisp, as if that's the only way to have a gay character. Like I said, this is a caricature of a black woman and honestly I find it obnoxious. I suppose having her fight with a ghost in the trailer after it slimes some watermelon or fried chicken would have been just a tad too obvious?I think the 'racism' stems from the ONLY black character being the butch, strong and angry one with no scientific education who knows the streets.
I guess I wasn't clear enough, but you seem to have answered your question in your own post. Yes, Winston was cool, laid back, not a loud mouth, not a genius but had some more common sense compared to the rest of the characters. You know what Winston wasn't? A carbon copy of Shaft. The character happened to be black, without "being black" as the defining trait of the character. This character that's supposed to be the female equivalent of Winston simply isn't. Why? Because Winston didn't spend a large portion of the movie(or the trailers) acting like a stereotypical black male.
A bit stereotypical? The jokes aren't good. They're played out, tired, old, boring, heard them a million times. If this is that actress' entire shtick, then she's just not funny. It's the same reason I listed "funny because fat", as the fat character is pretty much doing the same thing(except as a woman) that we've seen everyone from John Candy and Chris Farley up through Kevin James do. If it's stupid when Kevin James does it, why would it be any better if a woman does it? Have the out of shape character, but give them a defining trait other than "the funny fat one".
Pretty much. Why can't one of the smart people be black? Why does the only black cast member have to be a walking stereotype? I'm a black man, I don't walk around with sagging pants, a grill, blasting rap music(I'm more of a Pantera guy), swisher hanging out of my mouth, and so on. I've met plenty of black women who don't act like the "I'm a big loud strong independent woman who don't need no man and my answer for everything is to slap them". This is the equivalent of having a token gay character in a movie or TV show that happens to be a flaming queen that speaks with a lisp, as if that's the only way to have a gay character. Like I said, this is a caricature of a black woman and honestly I find it obnoxious. I suppose having her fight with a ghost in the trailer after it slimes some watermelon or fried chicken would have been just a tad too obvious?
Leslie Jones is usually hilarious, the problem is the writing for her jokes in the trailer were crap. When she is doing stand up or when she gets good skits on SNL the stereotypical "black woman" act can work. Like every other joke in the trailer, all of her lines feel forced and cynical. There is nothing fun about any of the jokes or anyone's delivery of them. No subject or stereotype is too taboo to joke about, but it requires good writing and good delivery to do it well.
The reason the only black character isn't a scientist is because the only black character in the previous movies wasn't either. They're trying desperately (read: forced and cynically) to make the reboot like the previous movies without understanding why they worked.
I get why they went that route(having the non-scientist character be the black one so it looks more like the original), I just think it would have been better if it was still a character that simply happened to be black rather than the character being black as the only defining trait. Again, not saying it needs to be a man, or she needs to look like a supermodel or something, but the modern version of "Mammy" is just tiresome.