German Police Are Raiding Homes over Hateful Postings on Social Media

Did you just watch Bill Maher on hbo to mention the Southern Poverty law bit? Sorry, but anything that douchebag says doesn't hold water imo. As far as the germans are concerned, well , it's their country and as such, they can damn well do whatever they think it's best. However, trying to deny free speech can lead to a very slippery slope ...
 
Whilst I totally agree with the cautious/alarmed view with regards free speech and the seizing of liberties, I'm also totally on board with someone having the police knock on their door after they post something trying to incite a group to burn down a building full of refugees, for example. I live in Germany and behaviour of that kind, on any side, is intolerable.

If it stays at that, then great - the worry is of course that it's just a stepping stone to the 1984 scenario others have mentioned above.

The 'Raid' word btw is typical media over-inflation, it's not like a SWAT team bashes the door down and storms in.
 
DarkStar_WNY said:
Differences are no longer discussed, and while the right has it's own issues this is predominantly a issue with the left, disagree in any manner and you are instantly labeled a racist, nazi, homophobic science denier
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well perhaps if the right didn't vote a racist, nazi, homophobic science denier to be the President of the USA they wouldn't be deemed all that? They knew who and what he is and voted for him so ... what does that make them?

It's not "all free-thinkers" who must be silenced but if you vote for a person who openly boasted about being a sexual predator and called for the ban of an entire religion and a vice president responsible for the biggest HIV outbreak in recent US history and a believer in that gays should be given therapy to become straight, well, then perhaps your actions already have told more than I ever want to hear from you.

The left do not want to hear from the right any more because anyone that remained on this right is just not worth listening to. You do realise of course that in several issues even Theresa May is actually to the left of Hillary Clinton, don't you? Is that a far stretch then to call the GOP and its voters a far right party which in any other country would be ostracized and shunned? I do not think so. Many on the left -- who really are left without a party to vote on, by the way -- does exactly that: ostracize.
 
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chx said:
...called for the ban of an entire religion...
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Pretty much everything you said is made up. By the way, the travel ban was for certain countries and the largest Muslim majority country, among many others, was exempted. And ironically the most radically dangerous, backwards and racist countries (UAE, Saudi Arabia) were left off of the list. I've read of Americans of Indian decent take jobs in the UAE, only to be forced into a massive salary cut just simply because they're not Emirati or white, as Indians and Filipinos are largely considered to be sub human there. Only after significant protest were they paid white American expat salary. If you think the US is xenophobic or backwards, just visit some of the countries in that area of the world.
 
chx said:
well perhaps if the right didn't vote a racist, nazi, homophobic science denier to be the President of the USA they wouldn't be deemed all that? They knew who and what he is and voted for him so ... what does that make them?

It's not "all free-thinkers" who must be silenced but if you vote for a person who openly boasted about being a sexual predator and called for the ban of an entire religion and a vice president responsible for the biggest HIV outbreak in recent US history and a believer in that gays should be given therapy to become straight, well, then perhaps your actions already have told more than I ever want to hear from you.

The left do not want to hear from the right any more because anyone that remained on this right is just not worth listening to. You do realise of course that in several issues even Theresa May is actually to the left of Hillary Clinton, don't you? Is that a far stretch then to call the GOP and its voters a far right party which in any other country would be ostracized and shunned? I do not think so. Many on the left -- who really are left without a party to vote on, by the way -- does exactly that: ostracize.
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Exhibit A: what it looks like when you get your news from buzzfeed.
 
chx said:
Sigh. I do not even read buzzfeed. Two, Trump as a candidate wanted to ban all muslim travel to the US and that's what people have voted on. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html
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Ah, CNN. A credible source when they aren't literally making shit up. Oh wait, no they're not. They haven't been in years. Why don't you go to the whitehouse.gov website and read the actual travel ban (and then, just for kicks compare it to Obama's travel ban from 2012 - you'll find they are identical. That would hurt your narrative though, so you won't.
 
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Ah, CNN. A credible source when they aren't literally making shit up. Oh wait, no they're not. They haven't been in years. Why don't you go to the whitehouse.gov website and read the actual travel ban (and then, just for kicks compare it to Obama's travel ban from 2012 - you'll find they are identical. That would hurt your narrative though, so you won't.
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Uh, yeah, going to the whitehouse.gov website is likely to be a very unbiaised source of information... sure.
 
LigTasm said:
Ah, CNN. A credible source when they aren't literally making shit up. Oh wait, no they're not. They haven't been in years. Why don't you go to the whitehouse.gov website and read the actual travel ban (and then, just for kicks compare it to Obama's travel ban from 2012 - you'll find they are identical. That would hurt your narrative though, so you won't.
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The Supreme Court disagrees with you. But I guess that's fake news too. :rolleyes:

What reality do you live in?
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A lot of us are wondering the same thing about you.
 
LigTasm said:
... What reality do you live in?
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In that liberal Lala land where if you spend 140 million on something this year, and only want to spend 150 Million next year instead of the expected 160 Million, it's a cut in spending.

Where the term ILLEGAL immigrants becomes ALL immigrants.

Where FETAL stem cell research becomes ALL stem cell research.

Where asking for ID in order to vote is unacceptable, but asking for exactly the same ID in order to receive welfare is acceptable.

Where a woman who gets raped is somehow better than a woman who shoots a rapist before he can carry out his attack.

Where 258 black people killed by police in 2015 is a crisis, but 2380 blacks killed by other blacks in the same year isn't talked about.

In a world where feelings and emotions are more important than facts.
 
Ieldra said:
McCarthy era America called, they want you back.
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You mean the era that started with this?

President Truman's Executive Order 9835 of March 21, 1947, which required that all federal civil service employees be screened for "loyalty." The order specified that one criterion to be used in determining that "reasonable grounds exist for belief that the person involved is disloyal" would be a finding of "membership in, affiliation with or sympathetic association" with any organization determined by the attorney general to be "totalitarian, Fascist, Communist or subversive" or advocating or approving the forceful denial of constitutional rights to other persons or seeking "to alter the form of Government of the United States by unconstitutional means."
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Just in case you aren't aware of it, Truman was a DEMOCRAT.

BTW just to further enlighten you, I was born in 1945 and remember the "Red Scare" days. I've lived through what you 'think' you know.
 
OldBuzzard said:
You mean the era that started with this?



Just in case you aren't aware of it, Truman was a DEMOCRAT.
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I don't care what you label Truman as, labels like 'democrat' mean nothing to me. it's just a word, if the word has a positive association with it, people will want to be associated with it. if it doesn't, they don't.

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BTW just to further enlighten you, I was born in 1945 and remember the "Red Scare" days. I've lived through what you 'think' you know.
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I'm honestly not surprised, your name is Old Buzzard and you're posting McCarthy era tropes :p
 
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IWhere 258 black people killed by police in 2015 is a crisis, but 2380 blacks killed by other blacks in the same year isn't talked about.
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Neither are the large number of whites killed by other whites. That doesn't matter. That's a strawman. What matters is this: White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population.

This makes people very strongly suspect a significant amount of the police force is racist. That's the problem. Also, if an ordinary citizen murders another ordinary ciitzen, more often than not they end up spending a long, long time in prison. On the other hand, police officers, even when their murder recorded on tape, walk free. This is another problem.

As for the CNN making shit up well then so did everyone else -- a year before Trump became president and accordingly months before he was a candidate.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...l-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/wild-donald-trump-quotes/3/
http://fortune.com/2016/06/28/donald-trump-muslim-ban/
https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fi...-calls-for-banning-muslims-from-entering-u-s/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-immigrants/419298/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../donald-trump-muslims-united-states/76942932/
http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-shutdown-muslim-immigration/ (this has a video of Trump uttering the words that CNN made up. Very powerful, CNN is.)
 
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Neither are the large number of whites killed by other whites. That doesn't matter. That's a strawman. What matters is this: White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population.

This makes people very strongly suspect a significant amount of the police force is racist. That's the problem. Also, if an ordinary citizen murders another ordinary ciitzen, more often than not they end up spending a long, long time in prison. On the other hand, police officers, even when their murder recorded on tape, walk free. This is another problem.

As for the CNN making shit up well then so did everyone else -- a year before Trump became president and accordingly months before he was a candidate.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...l-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/wild-donald-trump-quotes/3/
http://fortune.com/2016/06/28/donald-trump-muslim-ban/
https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fi...-calls-for-banning-muslims-from-entering-u-s/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-immigrants/419298/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../donald-trump-muslims-united-states/76942932/
http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-shutdown-muslim-immigration/ (this has a video of Trump uttering the words that CNN made up. Very powerful, CNN is.)
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More importantly, even if the Police are not in fact racist, but are merely perceived as being racist, that is a massive problem.
 
chx said:
Neither are the large number of whites killed by other whites. That doesn't matter. That's a strawman. What matters is this: White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population.

This makes people very strongly suspect a significant amount of the police force is racist. That's the problem. Also, if an ordinary citizen murders another ordinary ciitzen, more often than not they end up spending a long, long time in prison. On the other hand, police officers, even when recorded on tape, walk free. This is another problem.

As for the CNN making shit up well then so did everyone else -- a year before Trump became president and accordingly months before he was a candidate.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...l-muslims-entering-us-san-bernardino-shooting
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/wild-donald-trump-quotes/3/
http://fortune.com/2016/06/28/donald-trump-muslim-ban/
https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fi...-calls-for-banning-muslims-from-entering-u-s/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-immigrants/419298/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../donald-trump-muslims-united-states/76942932/
http://time.com/4139476/donald-trump-shutdown-muslim-immigration/ (this has a video of Trump uttering the words that CNN made up. Very powerful, CNN is.)
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And the further problem is people quoting statistics like you and conveniently leaving out important parts like the fact that the 13% of Black's you mention are also involved in an extremely disproportionate % of violent crimes. That however suddenly takes credence away from the narrative you mention so people try to ignore that.

Sorry but while there are problems with police on black violence, the bigger problem is within the black community itself.
 
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And the further problem is people quoting statistics like you and conveniently leaving out important parts like the fact that the 13% of Black's you mention are also involved in an extremely disproportionate % of violent crimes. That however suddenly takes credence away from the narrative you mention so people try to ignore that.

Sorry but while there are problems with police on black violence, the bigger problem is within the black community itself.
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Thats because a great proportion of people below the poverty line are black. Connection between poverty and crime... Pretty obvious
 
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And the furt her problem is people quoting statistics like you and conveniently leaving out important parts like the fact that the 13% of Black's you mention are also involved in an extremely disproportionate % of violent crimes. That however suddenly takes credence away from the narrative you mention so people try to ignore that.

Sorry but while there are problems with police on black violence, the bigger problem is within the black community itself.
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Seriously? That old chestnut? Talk to this guy https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/facultyexperts/asexperts/lance_hannon.html please. His research in Cleveland showed that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas. Corollary: you are mixing up skin color with poverty. Opsie.

Very quietly I'd like to note that if you are ready to believe without very serious research to back it up that a certain group of people who have been seriously disenfranchised for a long time are magnitudes more likely to commit violent crime then you might be racist. That's an extraordinary claim which requires extraordinary evidence. And so far, evidence points to other causes, namely poverty which is much more logical than skin color... careful with your biases.

In general, everyone, read Thinking, Fast and Slow to learn to question your own beliefs better.

Even without that, let's chant together: Correlation is not causation! Or are you going to say
US spending on science, space, and technology causes suicides by hanging, strangulation and suffocation? Or the other way around? They correlate almost perfectly! http://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=1597
 
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chx said:
Seriously? That old chestnut? Talk to this guy https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/facultyexperts/asexperts/lance_hannon.html please. His research in Cleveland showed that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas. Corollary: you are mixing up skin color with poverty. Opsie.
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Yes, they're poorer, that's the root cause of the problem. But the leftist pc people refuse to even accept the fact that they do commit more crime. You cannot start solving a problem if you don't even want to recognize that there is a problem.
Their skin color is irrelevant stop bringing it up all the time. The PC people are the ones obsessed with race, who claim they're poor because they're black, noone else makes such ridiculous claims. They act as if black people are brainless children who cannot be held responsible for what they do.
 
Ieldra said:
Thats because a great proportion of people below the poverty line are black. Connection between poverty and crime... Pretty obvious
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chx said:
Seriously? That old chestnut? Talk to this guy https://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/facultyexperts/asexperts/lance_hannon.html please. His research in Cleveland showed that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas. Corollary: you are mixing up skin color with poverty. Opsie.

Very quietly I'd like to note that if you are ready to believe without very serious research to back it up that a certain group of people who have been seriously disenfranchised for a long time are magnitudes more likely to commit violent crime then you might be racist. That's an extraordinary claim which requires extraordinary evidence. And so far, evidence points to other causes, namely poverty which is much more logical than skin color... careful with your biases.

In general, everyone, read Thinking, Fast and Slow to learn to question your own beliefs better.

Even without that, let's chant together: Correlation is not causation! Or are you going to say
US spending on science, space, and technology causes suicides by hanging, strangulation and suffocation? Or the other way around? They correlate almost perfectly! http://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=1597
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I'm aware poverty exacerbates the problem and once again thanks for assuming you know anything about me. Just because there is another factor doesn't invalidate my point. What I quoted was a fact and no spinning changes that. Poverty is both a cultural and opportunity problem. However it is not an excuse. I've been poor and nearly on the street, I didn't resort to crime. Blaming White's and the police fixes nothing. The problem doesn't get fixed without first addressing cultural problems and then opportunity problems. There is no twisting what I said to make it untrue. Perhaps you should take an introspective look into yourself before jumping to conclusions next time. Also facts help.
 
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M76 said:
Yes, they're poorer, that's the root cause of the problem. But the leftist pc people refuse to even accept the fact that they do commit more crime. You cannot start solving a problem if you don't even want to recognize that there is a problem.
Their skin color is irrelevant stop bringing it up all the time. The PC people are the ones obsessed with race, who claim they're poor because they're black, noone else makes such ridiculous claims. They act as if black people are brainless children who cannot be held responsible for what they do.
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*blink* where did you read that? Noone campaigned for that. What we would like is equal treatment. For example, black people and white people smoke marijuana at similar rates, yet black people are 3.7 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. And then black defendants represent about 35% of drug arrests and yet somehow 46% of those convicted of drug crimes are black. This is not right. This is just not right.

Here's another piece of data: In Cook County, 79 percent of blacks were born to single mothers in 2003, while only 15 percent of whites were born to single mothers. What do you think why? What happens to many grown in up single families? Again: not all, but many.
 
M76 said:
Yes, they're poorer, that's the root cause of the problem. But the leftist pc people refuse to even accept the fact that they do commit more crime. You cannot start solving a problem if you don't even want to recognize that there is a problem.
Their skin color is irrelevant stop bringing it up all the time. The PC people are the ones obsessed with race, who claim they're poor because they're black, noone else makes such ridiculous claims. They act as if black people are brainless children who cannot be held responsible for what they do.
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Every one should be held accountable for their actions, that includes policemen, black people, greenskins and ewoks.

This however must by necessity also include those statesmen who supported segregation and enacted laws that led to the disenfranchisement of these people. You cannot sever the link between their poverty and their history in the US. These things are correlated.

What about white collar crime? I'd imagine in terms of the sums involved it dwarfs petty theft robbery etc, and I don't even have to look at statistics to assert that there's is a strong correlation between being ethnically white and being a criminal.

If I were a simpleminded bigot I would say this indicates white people are inherently dishonest and are thieves
 
Ieldra said:
More importantly, even if the Police are not in fact racist, but are merely perceived as being racist, that is a massive problem.
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The bolded part of your post is the problem with the barking moonbat liberals.

They rely on feelings and 'perceptions' rather than facts.

They then talk about their feelings with each other time and time again until they begin to believe that their beliefs are true when all of the data available proves other wise.

They are extremely gullible and will believe any lie told to them as long as believing in that lie validates their 'feelings'.

When confronted with the actual facts they do the equivalent of a 3 year old putting his fingers in his ears and saying LA LA LA, so that he can't hear what he's being told.

The problem is with THEM, not the police nor rational thinking people.
 
OldBuzzard said:
The bolded part of your post is the problem with the barking moonbat liberals.

They rely on feelings and 'perceptions' rather than facts.

They then talk about their feelings with each other time and time again until they begin to believe that their beliefs are true when all of the data available proves other wise.

They are extremely gullible and will believe any lie told to them as long as believing in that lie validates their 'feelings'.

When confronted with the actual facts they do the equivalent of a 3 year old putting his fingers in his ears and saying LA LA LA, so that he can't hear what he's being told.

The problem is with THEM, not the police nor rational thinking people.
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The problem is with people who can only operate with binary logic, you're either a liberal or you're not . Us and them.

*They* rely on feelings and perception and not on facts?

That applies to trump and his administration as well.

Climate change deniers... Idiots claiming vaccines cause autism...

People believe all kinds of shit, I ignore those people, you elevate them to represent a whole class of people
 
Didn't I just get my comment flagged and removed for being political and yet they post topics like this? The fuck?
 
Glad I got to go to Germany when it was just the Turks everywhere.

I feel bad for the regular Germans. There are such huge machinations against them, and have been for a long time.

I also don't believe that the majority of language to be prosecuted is actually going to be incitement to violence... this is way too close to thought crimes, which is just absurd.
 
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I don't even know what to say to this. How in hell can reading the actual documents in question be biased? What reality do you live in?
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Well for one thing, Obama's halt on processing of Iraqi applications in 2011 (not 2012 as you said) was a reactive response to two refugees in Kentucky who were discovered to have been involved with terrorist activity. Trump's ban was in no way reactive, but was instead preemptive and not based on any one source/threat. It wasn't painted this way by the WH of course.
 
Ieldra said:
The problem is with people who can only operate with binary logic, you're either a liberal or you're not . Us and them.

Binary Logic is not necessarily a bad thing. In most things it's positive. Many things are either right or they are wrong.

*They* rely on feelings and perception and not on facts?

"They" meaning the bat shit crazy barking moon bats. There are plenty of rational liberals. Their voices are drowned out by the crazy ones.

That applies to trump and his administration as well.

No denying that the conservative side has their idiots as well. It's just that they are scorned by the sane conservatives, while the liberals seem to glorify their idiots.

Climate change deniers... Idiots claiming vaccines cause autism...

"Climate change denier" - One who prefers to not believe data that was purposely 'massaged' in order to validate the 'perception' that somehow, human beings are responsible for current climate change. Especially when the same type of change occurred in prehistoric times when humans didn't even exist.

People believe all kinds of shit, I ignore those people, you elevate them to represent a whole class of people
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I will just leave this here for those who could not bother to read the first post: Over 30 homes were raided in GERMANY
 

Its no mystery how we did it, emission of greenhouse gases, but you can choose to pretend it's not true if you wish. Just don't complain when you're marginalized in a world that is quickly moving away from dirty energy
 
chx said:
*blink* where did you read that? Noone campaigned for that. What we would like is equal treatment. For example, black people and white people smoke marijuana at similar rates, yet black people are 3.7 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. And then black defendants represent about 35% of drug arrests and yet somehow 46% of those convicted of drug crimes are black. This is not right. This is just not right.
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Statistics in a vacuum are meaningless. That doesn't prove they're treated differently. It only means that there are some other factors at play there. But instead of investigating you immediately jump to conclusions. (coz racizm!)
Since the crime rate is higher it's more likely that they have prior offenses or are also convicted of other offenses at the same time the marijuana possession is just slapped on top of the rest of the charges.
Or to say it another way which is more likely to get you convicted?
If you're caught in possession of drugs but have no prior criminal record.
Or if you're caught with drugs with the intent of selling them, and you have a streak of previous offenses?
 
Krenum said:
Democrats have only themselves to blame for Trump, they created him by letting their party decline, poor policy, not voting or not having a candidate worth a damn to beat him in an election. Same can be said about these idiots over in Europe too.
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There is much more to it than that. The real "progressives" of the democratic part are the Bernie Sanders Democrats. These are the 100% socialist and want a 100% socialist country. But as you can see they are not the power brokers in the democratic party. It is well known the nomination was stolen from Bernie Sanders by a corrupt DNC. The status quo democrats control the party. And the sad truth is the ensconced democrats are part of a corrupt cabal. The republican party as a whole isn't that much different. It is populated by not conservatives but "neo-cons" which are quasi-liberal. It is clear from the reaction to Trumps election win that BOTH SIDES are in bed together.

Now it is time to really walk up and throw the window open and gaze at the big picture.
Donald Trump winning the presidency is an astounding thing. He wasn't a morally superior candidate. As regard his politics he is not a hard right conservative, but rather a more of a moderate.
He is NOT a career politician which shatters conventional wisdom. He is not after fame, (he has it), he is not after money or influence (he has it ). What motivated him to seek office was a profound concern about the direction the country was taking. Yes, out of pure conviction and love of country he ran for office. This is UNHEARD OF in modern political life.
This itself put him on a head on collision with the political class on both sides of the aisles. He is not a politician and does not behave like one. It is funny how both parties criticize him for that. He is a man of his words and seeks to fulfill his campaign promises. Unlike a politician who immediately forgets all the promises as soon as they are elected. The political class is shocked he would actually want keep his promises.
If Trump does what he says he will do (drain the swamp) he will expose corruption and put the corrupt out of power. The political class knows this and this is why they seek to destroy him.
Who voted for Trump?
The people that realized that voting for a politician was a vote for the status quo. It had to be someone that understood that what was going on in Washington was the problem and NOT the supposed ignorance or biases of the american people.

There was only one candidate that fit the bill.
 
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I thought the ridiculous laws about social media outlets having to delete content in 24 hours or up to 1 week was pretty crazy. The cost to have people comb through all the garbage to find it all in less than a day and delete it. That would cost far too much. I suppose they just use keyword and phrase detectors or something to delete crap. There is no way big social media could keep up at that pace.
 
Ieldra said:
The problem is with people who can only operate with binary logic, you're either a liberal or you're not . Us and them.

*They* rely on feelings and perception and not on facts?

That applies to trump and his administration as well.

Climate change deniers... Idiots claiming vaccines cause autism...

People believe all kinds of shit, I ignore those people, you elevate them to represent a whole class of people
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Yes, mention another bad thing, because two wrongs make a who cares.

The fact that trump is an idiot doesn't exonerate other idiots. Or give them free reign to claim ridiculous shit that's based on what they feel, completely unchallenged.

I'm a leftist, and I hate climate change denial, and I hate science denial, but that doesn't mean I have to side with the social justice proponents because we happen to agree about trump. That's exaclty what they do. You're either against them or with them, there is no middle ground. You either agree with them on everything or you're "garbage human". So don't try to suggest that anti sjw-s see the word in black and white. It's entirely the opposite. If you have been following their doings you should've heard about or saw their reaction to laci green admitting the need for dialogue. That's how binary they are.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
I'm aware poverty exacerbates the problem and once again thanks for assuming you know anything about me. Just because there is another factor doesn't invalidate my point. What I quoted was a fact and no spinning changes that. Poverty is both a cultural and opportunity problem. However it is not an excuse. I've been poor and nearly on the street, I didn't resort to crime. Blaming White's and the police fixes nothing. The problem doesn't get fixed without first addressing cultural problems and then opportunity problems. There is no twisting what I said to make it untrue. Perhaps you should take an introspective look into yourself before jumping to conclusions next time. Also facts help.
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No one will address the cultural problem cause anything you say about it automatically makes you a racist. Black people live with a huge chip on their shoulder that they refuse to let go. They teach their kids fuck whitey. Fuck the police and usually come from single home parents. A father that is gone due to being dead, in jail or just doesn't give a shit. Being poor doesn't excuse you to do crime. I grew up in a poor family in poor immagrant area. It was a primary white area with almost no crime. I could walk around my area without incident at 7 years old. Once black people started moving in the area went to shit. I got jumped constantly if I was out at night. People cars and houses got vandalize. Call me racist all you want they are the ones hurting themselves. It is what I experienced in my life.
 
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