GeForce RTX 5090, 5080, 5070Ti and 5070 to launch in Q1 2025, RTX 5070 expected to feature 6400 cores

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Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce...in-q1-rtx-5070-expected-to-feature-6400-cores
 
I'll be surprised if I see these in Stock all next year between the scalpers bots and people who actually want one <---------
 
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I'm curious if the 5080 will outperform the 4090 in 4K gaming at lower power draw. Also interested in seeing how much juice the 5090 sucks. I would not be surprised if the 5090 FE goes up in price $200 to $1,800, with AIB partners charging $2,000+ for their models - and the 5080 FE goes up $100 to $1,300 with AIBs at $1,400+.
 
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Comixbooks said:
I'll be surprised if I see these in Stock all next year between the scalpers bots and people who actually want one <---------
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At an MSRP of $1999.99 I’m not terribly sure they are something most scalpers will want to focus on.

But still you’re probably right. Who knows maybe the losses they are all taking on the PS5 pro will make them second guess.
 
Randall Stephens said:
Oh, they're dialed back alright. I have a feeling there won't be much compelling to upgrade this cycle either.
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Yeah. I bought a 4070 a few months ago. Moderate raster improvement over my 6800, huge RT improvment, didn't burn a lot of power. I'll probably skip the next generation now.
 
Lakados said:
At an MSRP of $1999.99 I’m not terribly sure they are something most scalpers will want to focus on.

But still you’re probably right. Who knows maybe the losses they are all taking on the PS5 pro will make them second guess.
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The taxes on $2000 and also s&h (insurance) might push the out the door price north of $2500

I got sticker shock on taxes about these 1500-1600 dollar cards before.,, something often overlooked

Also if buy scalped and or second hand you may not even have a transferable warranty to boot
 
erek said:
The taxes on $2000 and also s&h (insurance) might push the out the door price north of $2500

I got sticker shock on taxes about these 1500-1600 dollar cards before.,, something often overlooked

Also if buy scalped and or second hand you may not even have a transferable warranty to boot
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Evga always takes care of people… 🤣
 
Tariffs are incoming so I'm going to try and get a 5090 as soon as possible (provided I can actually get one).
 
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4090 runs cooler than 3080 in my NCASE build. I'll likely sit this gen out for a little while, same as I did last time. Takes time for compatible waterblocks to release, plus initial availability will be slim to none. It will be interesting to see what NVDA does with pricing. Wouldn't surprise me if they bumped MSRP to $1800 like others suggested, but will they want to bump it further to $2200 if/when tariffs hit? I wonder if they'll split the difference and go for $1999 MSRP.
 
Moparzrule said:
The prices are GPU's is just insane anymore. Probably skipping the 5k series
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The funny thing is if you’re not chasing 4K then you can do a lot with a little.
1080p with all the bells and whistles, keeping at or above 60 fps can be done on a 4060.
And the Ryzen 5000 series as well as anything mid range from Intel 11’th gen and up will feed it just fine.

It’s easy to lose perspective when you compare everything against the 4090 and a 9800x3d, but if you look at it starting at “what will give me the same or better experience to a PS5” then things become far less gloomy.
 
Lakados said:
The funny thing is if you’re not chasing 4K then you can do a lot with a little.
1080p with all the bells and whistles, keeping at or above 60 fps can be done on a 4060.
And the Ryzen 5000 series as well as anything mid range from Intel 11’th gen and up will feed it just fine.

It’s easy to lose perspective when you compare everything against the 4090 and a 9800x3d, but if you look at it starting at “what will give me the same or better experience to a PS5” then things become far less gloomy.
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Well, I do have a 4k monitor but a 4070 Ti Super does good enough for me....Ultra settings on 95% of games.
 
Wag said:
Tariffs are incoming so I'm going to try and get a 5090 as soon as possible (provided I can actually get one).
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That' and the AI restrictions are why board assembly has been moved out of China by most brands now.
 
GoldenTiger said:
That' and the AI restrictions are why board assembly has been moved out of China by most brands now.
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Yeah they are being assembled in Mexico now and they are likely first party too, Foxconn has built their largest facility to date in Mexico and Nvidia is currently their primary client.
 
Lakados said:
We’re already preparing for it in Canada, it’s likely to go back on Aluminum, Hydro, and Lumber for sure.
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We make enough Aluminum here in the states. A new smelter going online
here in the next couple years in KY that is going to double the amount of smelt capacity in the US. I do a ton of work in this industry. The cheap, low quality Chinese dump 7/8 years ago nearly killed the US Aluminum industry. We couldn't even recycle scrap for the price that China was shipping their garbage over here for.
Tarrif on hydro power? Not sure how that one works, but ok.
Would be very surprised to see large tarrifs on lumber. That would go against making homes affordable again.
Let's not get bans for talking politics outside the Soapbox.
 
alxlwson said:
We make enough Aluminum here in the states. A new smelter going online
here in the next couple years in KY that is going to double the amount of smelt capacity in the US. I do a ton of work in this industry. The cheap, low quality Chinese dump 7/8 years ago nearly killed the US Aluminum industry. We couldn't even recycle scrap for the price that China was shipping their garbage over here for.
Tarrif on hydro power? Not sure how that one works, but ok.
Would be very surprised to see large tarrifs on lumber. That would go against making homes affordable again.
Let's not get bans for talking politics outside the Soapbox.
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Yeah, last time Trump was in office those are the things he put Tariffs on, Energy providers in the states get mad when BC sells cheap Hydro Electric into the states during peak hours, and the cheap Hydro keeps our Aluminum unfairly cheap, and the Canada-US Softwood lumber issue has been ongoing for a long time and he's likely going to use that as a bargaining chip for the upcoming renewals on the water agreements for a bunch of the rivers and lakes along the border. It's not helped that Trump hates Justin, so that alone makes most of Canada like him right now...
 
I assume pricing on these will be high. I am thinking the 5070ti would be a nice upgrade from a 4070, but I also assume it will be $800+. The difference between the 5090 and 5080 is also massive though we've had those leaks for a while. I'm really wondering how those two are priced.
 
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Let's not get bans for talking politics outside the Soapbox.
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What you said. However, however, however. The big issue now affecting GPU cards (and probably motherboards, RAM, HDDs, etc) is the how much and when of tariffs. It's the elephant in the room.

I don't want to get banned. I can only hope that the moderators cut us some slack until the tariff issues are sorted out.
 
I only mentioned it here because they will directly effect the price of the cards, how much remains to be seen.

I will say nothing more on the subject.
 
erek said:

Nvidia RTX 5090 and 5080 GPUs again rumored for CES – but suggestion the RTX 5080 could be positioned as a ‘professional’ GPU might worry PC gamers​

https://www.techradar.com/computing...d-as-a-professional-gpu-might-worry-pc-gamers
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Nvidia builds their own “professional” GPUs, and they don’t really have any gaming brands directly under their umbrella.
The Founders Edition cards for example, aren’t technically considered gaming cards.
The 5080 and 5090 will be built in house by Nvidia in the Foxconn facility in Mexico and won’t be built by any AIB’s who’s facilities are still in China.
Given the 4080 Super barely slipped in under the limits of what was banned in China, the 5080 sure as hell won’t meet them unless the government decided to get more lenient or the 5080 is slower than the 4080.
So by calling the 5080 and 5090 cards as professional cards it steps around many of the branding agreements Nvidia has with the AIBs, while keeping them compliant with the China bans.
 
Lakados said:
So by calling the 5080 and 5090 cards as professional cards it steps around many of the branding agreements Nvidia has with the AIBs, while keeping them compliant with the China bans.
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I feel like calling something pro instead of gaming would just hurt them trying to get under the regulators radar.

Lakados said:
The Founders Edition cards for example, aren’t technically considered gaming cards.
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Everything called GeForce would be gaming division I would have though.

I kind of doubt the 5080 will have professional GPU amount of vram or profession branding, the RTX 4500/5000 mobile made with the 103 class gpu will.
 
Yeah I'm pretty much done with team green. Only time you can afford a top tier card is if you get it used. Prices are just ungodly insane and I'm not going to skip my mortgage payment to get a 5 series.

I can hear it now;

Wife:" Honey, did you pay the mortgage?"
Me: " No babes, I wanted a 5090 so can get moar frames"
Wife: Loads shotgun 'click click' "Get the fuck out!"
 
Nebulous said:
Yeah I'm pretty much done with team green. Only time you can afford a top tier card is if you get it used. Prices are just ungodly insane and I'm not going to skip my mortgage payment to get a 5 series.

I can hear it now;

Wife:" Honey, did you pay the mortgage?"
Me: " No babes, I wanted a 5090 so can get moar frames"
Wife: Loads shotgun 'click click' "Get the fuck out!"
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At least they offer top tier cards, unlike the competition. You can always buy something other than the top card from Nvidia and still come out better off. Live within your means. $1600 mortgage including property taxes isn't bad depending on where you live.
 
LukeTbk said:
I feel like calling something pro instead of gaming would just hurt them trying to get under the regulators radar.
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Nah it offers a clear delineation, they aren’t going to China in any form, not as a gaming card and certainly not as a professional one.

LukeTbk said:
Everything called GeForce would be gaming division I would have though.

I kind of doubt the 5080 will have professional GPU amount of vram or profession branding, the RTX 4500/5000 mobile made with the 103 class gpu will.
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Right but I wouldn’t be shocked if Nvidia had agreements with their AIBs saying they get to make GForce cards, so by not placing them under GForce there isn’t any cause for them to complain.
 
GoldenTiger said:
At least they offer top tier cards, unlike the competition. You can always buy something other than the top card from Nvidia and still come out better off. Live within your means. $1600 mortgage including property taxes isn't bad depending on where you live.
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With my current 3080 12g, my card is choking up/stuttering @ 1440 and I pay a whole lot more than $1600 here in NY. I can always get a divorce...oh yeah that pesky thing called alimony. Maybe I can fake my own death? I'm too old to sell off one of my kidneys.
 
Nebulous said:
With my current 3080 12g, my card is choking up/stuttering @ 1440 and I pay a whole lot more than $1600 here in NY. I can always get a divorce...oh yeah that pesky thing called alimony. Maybe I can fake my own death? I'm too old to sell off one of my kidneys.
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When in doubt foot pics? You can always pretty them up with some makeup and do short videos in slow motion of you stepping on weird things…
 
Nebulous said:
With my current 3080 12g, my card is choking up/stuttering @ 1440 and I pay a whole lot more than $1600 here in NY. I can always get a divorce...oh yeah that pesky thing called alimony. Maybe I can fake my own death? I'm too old to sell off one of my kidneys.
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I run a laptop with a mobile 4080 at 2560x1600 at 240hz. Have you tried turning down settings or dlss further? I've yet to run into anything that can't run well on it and it's a bit slower than your 3080 desktop (laptop has 12gb of vram), looks fantastic graphically still even compared to my desktop at 4k.

Regardleas of your budget, Nvidia still tends to be better feature wise and around the same price/perf. Definitely not different to the extent I'd write them off and go amd right now. I'm going to get a 5xxx card, but I've been impressed by my laptop so much I'm not in as big a rush.

I have a feeling the 5080 is going to surprise people with a good price/perf like the 3080 did.
 
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