M76
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LOL, I could not buy a base 3080 for those prices here in the EU.
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Oh, without a doubt.with all due respect, I somehow doubt they could care less about your money
I thought that before ampere. It’s not correct
Ampere was 85% faster than Turing and cost less.
Nvidia and AMD try to price what the market will bear. They messed up with ampere, but Turing didn’t sell that well, and so they thought they priced it too high. With ampere release timeframe they knew they were competing against the Xbox and the PlayStation new releases where for the price of a 3070 you could buy a whole next gen console. This matters. I have friends who would have upgraded their PC to ampere, but with the value proposition just bought a console instead. I don’t think anyone expected the mad rush based on crypto price boom, and Covid’s has had an impact.
Had Nvidia known this in advance, MSRPs would have been at least double and much higher than Turing, but obviously they didn’t know. So they priced MSRP at less than Turing, and quite inexpensive for the historic performance jump. A 3070 is roughly 2080ti performance. A $500 product compares to a $1200 product from the previous generation? Wow! Nvidia was quite conservative with MSRP on ampere.
IMO, it is likely that Nvidia and AMD will overprice the next generation cards, just like they did Turing. It’s a similar landscape. pascal cards were bought heavily and scalped over MSRP because of Crypto, Nvidia noticed and MSRP went up for Turing. But mining profitability was basically dying when Turing released so now you had an overpriced card in the gaming market without Crypto profit driving sales. Ampere was released when mining wasn’t very profitable. Crypto exploded and so demand went way up, and just like Pascal, Ampere cards are being scalped. I think Nvidia will repeat the higher MSRP for next gen. There will be no console launch simultaneously to temper expectations, and whether or not the higher MSRP is warranted for next gen cards will depend mostly on how active Crypto is at that time. I still say gamers are not the ones buying the endless stream of scalped $2000 3080s all day long on eBay. Gamers will just wait and use what they have. Have you read about a single gamer saying he paid 3x MSRP on hardforum? I haven’t. Miners will pay $2000 for a 3080. Because they know they will make the money back and still have hardware to sell, when the crypto bubble bursts.
There are no great games to play atm to spend that amount of money. Only FOMO buyers and flippers will buy them.
Our game backlogs run just fine on whatever hardware we have right now.
Ouch, I wouldn't have done that. I know after being here for a few years, don't sell until you have the replacement.I'm on a GT1030 ATM cause I sold my 2070super in August thinking I'd just buy a 3070 when it was released
Edit: And I picked up Death Stranding and Control last Steam Winter sale and haven't been able to play them yet
Always sell your old card after you receive your new one...I'm on a GT1030 ATM cause I sold my 2070super in August thinking I'd just buy a 3070 when it was released
Edit: And I picked up Death Stranding and Control last Steam Winter sale and haven't been able to play them yet
Same here man! I don't think there is a single game that can't be played for the foreseeable future on a 2080ti in my mind. My 2080ti XC Ultra is an awesome card still. Only thing I haven't been able to run on it full tilt is the new Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, but I suspect if I turn down Ray Tracing from Ultra and maybe try DLSS it would be fine.I've luckily got a 2080Ti already so while not as nice as a 3xxx series it's still plenty and I don't mind waiting for a new GPU.
Same here man! I don't think there is a single game that can't be played for the foreseeable future on a 2080ti in my mind. My 2080ti XC Ultra is an awesome card still. Only thing I haven't been able to run on it full tilt is the new Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, but I suspect if I turn down Ray Tracing from Ultra and maybe try DLSS it would be fine.
What resolution are you running? On my 2080Ti I can run Metro EEE at 3440x1440p with any DLSS setting (I prefer Performance) at max graphics settings and haven't seen frames under 60 so far...most of the time the game runs 100+! Very well optimized for being fully ray-traced.
And if you're 8 feet away from your 55" or 65", you aren't seeing the difference between 1440p or 2160p either....so it works both ways......Indeed. 1440p @ 120+ Hz still does it for me, this whole rush to super high resolutions when my screen is barely a foot from my face is colossal waste of money. If I am immersed in the game, I'm not counting extra pixels!
That's why I sit 7 feet away from my 65"And if you're 8 feet away from your 55" or 65", you aren't seeing the difference between 1440p or 2160p either....so it works both ways......
Don't feel bad....they're not getting mine either.That is really sad. Unfortunately Nvidia or its partners are not getting my money this go around!