GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FAILS After Gaming for 2 Hours @ [H]

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  1. brentsg

    brentsg [H]ard|Gawd

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    Yeah I like EVGA in general, but I'll have to go thru an RMA (the "bad one" that I'm looking to avoid down the road) and also source a new card.

    Sourcing a new card still isn't trivial. I'd likely avoid the Ultra b/c I'm doing the SFF thing.. and there's this whole A revision ASIC binning business that I'm unclear about. Aside from the FTW3, I'm unclear which EVGA cards use the binned part.
     
  2. IdiotInCharge

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    This is on the 2070's.
     
  3. brentsg

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    Interesting, thanks. I stated as much on another forum and was told I didn't know what I was talking about.
     
  4. cybereality

    cybereality [H]ardness Supreme

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    I find it hilarious that, in this day and age, Forbes is quoting a [H]ardForum thread.
     
  5. 1Nocturnal101

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    LOL, OMG I'm dying here Kyle...………. +9000, I literally got to the last sentence while drinking coffee, some of it ended up in my lungs, the rest all over my desk...…...
     
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  6. lostin3d

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    Doing the usual internet rounds this morning and I was wondering about another AIB I had been considering: MSI RTX 2080TI Gaming X Trio.

    This was an alternate choice for me in comparing to the Strix. Was really curious because most reviews of the 2080TI's mention the BIOS power limitations being a major factor in OC'ing. This MSI is unique in that it has 3 power connectors, 2x8pin and 1x6pin, and a custom BIOS to increase power usage from MSI. Well, looking on Amazon and BB and there's failures reported there too. Granted, not fully verified but they're there.
     
  7. evilpaul

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    The custom designs vary in what they are capped at in terms total Watts. The reference designs are all 130% with the available BIOS. There was a thread on Reddit a few weeks ago on /r/Nvidia when people talked about things on there besides cards dying with the overall caps.
     
  8. Gripen90

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    My Gainward RTX 2080Ti is currently undergoing RMA at the manufacturer. However with all those RTX 2070/2080/2080Ti dying all around I don't feel at ease potentially getting another card with error.
    So today I saw a weekend deal so I have instead bought 2x Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Gaming OC, so Iamn going GTX 1080Ti SLI again ! (I intitially sold my GTX 1080Ti SLi to get a RTX 2080Ti). When my RTX 2080Ti gets back i'll return it and get a refund. I only worked for 4 days. I am NOT getting 1st gen RTX cards again.
     
  9. cybereality

    cybereality [H]ardness Supreme

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    I wouldn't be so quick to give up. I had to RMA a 2080 Ti, but the new one came from a different batch (0324 rather than 0323) and it's been solid so far for about 2 weeks.
     
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  10. Gripen90

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    When it's an AIB card returned to the retailer, I will have no clue what "batch" I'll get in return. It might as well as be a new one from the bad batch. Also the Ray Tracing performance is really bad, much more so than I had initially anticipated. 50FPS at 1080 at Ultra in BF5 on a $1200 card is a rip off.
    With GTX 1080Ti I know what I get, so I can't wait to get two of them back in my rig.

    My wife's 2nd RMA on a RTX 2080 has also been returned and refunded. She bought 2x GTX 1070Ti for the price of the refunded RTX 2080.

    The whole RTX release for me is a no go. Maybe with the 2nd generation we'll try them again if they also have proper ray tracing performance.
     
  11. zalazin

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    just an Nvidia scam to make more money only it's backfired and hurt them.....
     
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  12. Comixbooks

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    They are trying to figure out why Nvidia stock is tanking while it was like 260.00 a share all year.
     
  13. DooKey

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    Cryptocurrency crash caused NV and AMD to have a glut of old cards to sell. Lack of GPU mining going forward to reduce sales revenue compared to earlier. Pretty simple.
     
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  14. reaper12

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    AMD didn't, they learnt their lessons from the first Crypto boom with the 290 cards.
     
  15. Maddness

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    Revenue was down for both companies because of the mining crash. Nvidia was just hit harder.
     
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  16. JayteeBates

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    Maybe NV secretly wants to bring back the old OC FU edition labeling from BFG days...that was a classic.
     
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  17. reaper12

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    Sure revenue was down, but, that's not what I was replying to. AMD didn't have glut of old cards to sell after the mining bubble burst.
     
  18. Grimlaking

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    Kyle_Bennett I can't find the thread but did you manage to get some additional failed cards to pass on to your investigator? I'm trying to keep up with this one. Thanks!
     
  19. FrgMstr

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    No, not yet, still looking for Space Invaders card to purchase.
     
  20. Maddness

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    Are you going to try and find exactly what the cause was of the failed cards. Would certainly be interesting to know.
     
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  21. Grimlaking

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    Not to speak for Kyle, but I believe that is exactly his stated intent. I have to wonder if we have finally moved through the 'bad batch' of cards.
     
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  22. Legendary Gamer

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    I'm on the fence about that. My first 2 2080Ti Black Edition cards are/were crap. 3rd card arriving on Friday. While I never got to play space invaders the first card was massively unstable and second has nearly constant graphical glitches.. let you know about the third.
     
  23. hdtvnut

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    Advil and DrBorg suggest that higher mem clock rates may be causing 80 ti trouble. What makes me tend to agree is that at +1000, with my stock fans running at 100% and open case, my Micron-equipped Asus Strix 011G card would do benchmarks, but wouldn't pass stress tests, and temps were into the 70's after 2-3 minutes. By lowering the clock to +800, stress tests are OK, and temps never pass 65 deg, Maybe running these chips too hard is why they are failing, never mind what Micron or Nvidia sez. Or the card designs aren't cooling all of them properly. Either way, I'm capping at +800. My core clock brickwalls at about 1780-90, but the memory behavior seems almost unrelated.
     
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  24. Legendary Gamer

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    I have brought up similar concerns a while ago. Then again I've been through the wringer trying to figure things out. I'm on my third 2080Ti Black and it's hit or miss. 3rd card either works flawlessly or does odd things. There's no ryme or reason to it as far as I can tell. Running at stock speeds , never oced any of the 3 cards.

    My third card has hit 62c before tho last night it nevet climbed past 52c in games. First card was hitting 85c ... After a couple minutes and failing in everything. 2nd card would I it 72c. This one is cool, temp wise. So many damn variances between identical boards strikes me as a massive design flaw. There's no consistency in this release of cards in my opinion.
     
  25. Furious_Styles

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    Wow that sucks. At this point nvidia should send you a stipend for doing QA on their cards.
     
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  26. Legendary Gamer

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    I got a good laugh out of that, thank you! I needed it!

    I said eariler, I'm good for 5 returns. After that, I might just go postal :android:
     
  27. Furious_Styles

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    Hehe np. Have you noticed lots of clock frequency variation with those temps on the cards? I would assume it would try to throttle if it gets north of 70.
     
  28. Legendary Gamer

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    The clock rates bounce all over the place. I would have to look at the logs in Excel to make more organized sense of them. When I was using Precision X1 (which doesn't really seem to do anything, no matter what I set it to) I watched the clock speeds jump up and down 100-300Mhz constantly. My earlier cards (first two) had noticeable speed ramps on the fans under load, this one, I never even hear the fans kick in.

    At this point I'm just enjoying the card while I can. When it works, it makes my 1080Ti look like Clown Shoes. When it doesn't, Integrated Graphics give it a run for it's money...
     
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  29. Solhokuten

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    Ordered a 2080ti FE on the 9th of January 2019 and it also failed after a short gaming stent. I've initiated the RMA process...
     
  30. spine

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    Then pm Kyle and sell it to him dammit!
     
  31. TB2TDs

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    Just send it in for warranty or return it.
     
  32. faugusztin

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    My Gainward 2080Ti failed today in weird fashion after 2 weeks of use - on my Threadripper 2950x system it was failing with TDR errors left and right, none of the games started. Replaced with my old GTX 1080, system worked fine, including games. Moved the 2080Ti to a test system (i5-8400, Z370 board), unigine heaven benchrmark in fullscreen mode was going between a benchmark screen and black screen, in windowed mode the benchmark was freezing and then working, clocks were all over the place, all from 350MHz to 2010MHz according to MSI Afterburner.
    Because it was day 14 of 14 day return window, i returned it for full refund. Now i am not sure i want to risk buying a 2080Ti again (in short term at least).
     
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  33. DooKey

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    That's what a warranty is for. If you need/want the performance you should buy another.
     
  34. Legendary Gamer

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    If you can't live without the performance you're stuck in the same hell I am ... lol. It would appear that failure rates on these cards are still rather high.
     
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    'dons leather jacket'

    'Don't worry guys, it just works! A 0.02% failure rate is nothing to worry about!'
     
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    I would never buy a card with a reference heatsink that does not exhaust heat out of the case. It just seems suspicious to me that there is no blower solution for the card. It is almost as if it was designed to meltdown or something.

    This card just feels wrong to me.
     
  37. IdiotInCharge

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    Well, nice as an efficient blower that's as quiet as an open-air cooler would be, such a unicorn doesn't exist.

    And generally speaking if your case has airflow, the open-air cooler will keep the card cooler with less noise- the only exceptions being the obvious, where the case simply doesn't have the airflow. SFFs fall into this category on the smallest builds as open-air coolers can choke.
     
  38. faugusztin

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    Ordered another one. Wouldn't have it done normally, but the store i returned the card to started a "black friday" on a cheaper model, so i get a model clocked 75MHz lower (but we all know the card boosts way above that) and saved 130 euros. Let's hope this one actually survives more than 2 weeks. If not, i add another post to this thread :D.
     
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    Well as of today, i'm at the 2 week period for my FTW3 Ultra card and it's running really well. It does have the Samsung memory, I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I am very impressed with the performance. A massive jump on what I was using before hand.
     
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  40. eclypse

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    Thiers another guy reporting space invaders on his 2080ti ftw3 Ultra card that's 2 months old on evga forums!

    Says card was totally fine and heat mostly in the 55c tops and max on memory was 62c.

    Bought in the UK and has micron memory.