Sgt_Strider
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Is it just me or the bottom bezel seem bigger than the top and side bezel? Can you take a bigger picture to show the bezel and give me a measurement of top and bottom bezel? Thanks.
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shahidhaque said:Alright, so I bought the Gateway FPD2485W and my fiancee has not left me yet. So far so good. I have my PC attached through DVI and its fantastic. I've used the EZTune program to calibrate the settings, and I think the colors are just outstanding.
I've got my Xbox360 on the VGA input, and it is set to 1920x1080. It looks great, but my test is imperfect because the colors don't seem right. pNin01, how did you calibrate the settings to look right? What settings did you use (I would like to just dupe yours)?
Unrelated question: I also plan to attach a PS3 and/or Wii. How do you guys deal with the multiple audio sources? (Do your sound cards have more than one line-in?)
shahidhaque said:I've got my Xbox360 on the VGA input, and it is set to 1920x1080. It looks great, but my test is imperfect because the colors don't seem right. pNin01, how did you calibrate the settings to look right? What settings did you use (I would like to just dupe yours)?
What's the best way to test for backlight bleeding? Lights on/off? Camera flash on/off?Mysticode said:A back light bleeding investigation would be appreciated.
Also, please check for banding!
pNin01 said:Sorry about not getting the pictures up yet. I didn't realize that Vista doesn't recognize my card readers on my laptop. So I'll have to hook up my desktop and get them off there.
When I said mapped, I meant the video is displayed pixel by pixel. 1:1 mapping of 720p would be displaying exactly 1280x720 pixels centered on the screen, whereas 1:1 scaling of 720p would be a 16:9 image enlarged until there are no more black bars on the left and right. Because of this monitor's resolution, though, 1:1 mapping of 1080p is sufficient. There are only black bars on the top and bottom. The image is not distorted at all. I didn't calibrate any colors yet. But when you press menu, I selected the "Game" mode and it increases the brightness. I'm not sure exactly what it changes but it looked nice.
I concur with this. I did an initial test last night. I didn't see anything like was pictured in the FPD2275W. I think most of it came from the left and right. There is still some slighty buzzing with this monitor, but it's greatly improved over the FPD2185W.shahidhaque said:Regarding backlight bleeding, I'll see if I can get a picture of it taken tonight. I think there is some, but not much at all.
Regarding noise: I watched a few clips of ~640x480 resolution xvid encodings, and naturally some had more noise than others. I didn't watch any DVDs yet, but I'll keep you posted.
Only component #1 shows the green screen. Component #2's colors are fine for 1080p, but the image is squished to a 4:3 box with 1:1 on. Turning 1:1 off results in a pretty messed up picture. I'll try doing a power recycle when I get home tonight or something, but it doesn't look like there is much hope. Maybe if the Gateway actually supports 1080p over component #2, then there could be some fix for it in the future that could be delivered via USB? I don't really know. I also don't know how to get an answer from Gateway that I can believe about the 1080p.bigddybn said:I'm sure this video has been posted before but incase someone missed it
http://media.digitaltrends.com/digitaltrends/gateway_fpd2485w_24in_lcd_monitor.html
A friend of mine also has the same "green screen" issue with the 360 via component on his 37 Westy in 1080p so I'm not sure that there is really anything wrong with the monitor itself.
Well, I hope the DVI-D delivers 1080p. I'm positive it can although I can't test it. There are some TVs that can accept 1080p over component. It is possible.gabrielef said:From what I have read on other web-sites related to Audio/Visual technology, component cables (an analog signal) can (should?) only carry 720p/1080i signals, and if you want higher resolutions (ie. 1080p) you must use a digital cable (ie. HDMI or DVI). The only differences in DVI and HDMI is not picture quality but that the HDMI carries an audio signal as well as video and is being used to reinforce content protection, therefore, HDMI can carry a higher bandwidth of signal. As far as VGA cable on a 360 supporting 1080p, I am not sure why that works and component doesn't. Honestly, I am not worried that this monitor, or the 22" that I have, doesn't have HDMI unless I hook up a BluRay disk player and because of content protection, only HDMI can be used for 1080p (otherwise it drops down to 480p I believe). I am pretty sure thought that DVI from a BR player to this monitor via DVI should deliver 1080p.
gabrielef said:Honestly, I am not worried that this monitor, or the 22" that I have, doesn't have HDMI unless I hook up a BluRay disk player and because of content protection, only HDMI can be used for 1080p (otherwise it drops down to 480p I believe). I am pretty sure thought that DVI from a BR player to this monitor via DVI should deliver 1080p.
peTeMelster said:BenQ already has one, soon to be two, 24" monitors with HDMI.
The difference between HDMI and DVI are not as simple as HDMI also includes audio. HDMI has much more bandwidth than DVI. But currently, not all that bandwidth is being used. With HDMI 1.3 you can get things like 1 billion colors (as opposed to 16.7 million) among other better features that you simply can't fit through DVI. HDMI has plenty of room to expand, while DVI has pretty much reached its limit. Not the mention that HDMI has a much neater, smaller, and cooler-looking connector type.
GCK said:It looks nice, but I think I'll get a Westy 37 and wait for a ~24" monitor with HDMI.
Well, hold out for about a month and maybe the BenQ FP241W will do just that.gadnium said:I have came to the same conclusion. These computer display manufacturers keep releasing the same garbage over and over. I wasted a whole summer waiting for that diamond in the ruff. All I want is 2 inputs in all the flavors and I'll pay whatever price they put on it. 1080p on DVI and HDMI w/ DHCP and 1:1 pixel mapping. 1080i on component and I don't even care for VGA ports. Microsoft dug their own hole in this HD era, 1080p over VGA is a joke. But hopefully by the time I adopt the 360 they throw DVI or HDMI ports on it.
gabrielef said:It's a gimmic really (when included on a monitor), unless you get a DVD player or cable box that has ONLY an HDMI out on it. Then I guess you have no choice...
gabrielef said:Or as some receivers have, HDMI in and out, but that degrades the video signal. Better to go straight from the cable box or dvd player with HDMI/DVI to the TV, and the digital coax/optical to the reciever. Anyways...blah, blah, blah
Better than that, why don't you simply ask them to connect a HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player to this monitor in the store. I bet they will do it if they think they'll get a sale out of it. They may be annoyed but it's fine. Actually, I need to buy a router, I may go down there. But I'm thinking they may not even have these monitors on display. Gateway promised me that the monitor can do 1080p over component. They said the manual specs are subject to revision but what is on the web page is final.Edman22 said:I've noticed that everyone claiming this monitor can't do 1080p over component used an xbox. It's not unlikely that there could be something incompatible about the xbox and this monitor. Has anyone tried an HD-DVD or bluray player with this yet?
Also I came across this during my research of the Benq 24" LCD. Aside from the lack of an HDMI input how does the gateway compare to it in terms of the manufacturing quality/ panel used/ quality of the image? I know the Benq lacks 1:1 scaling, but I'm hoping this will be fixed soon so theres no need to diregard the Benq for this missing feature.
PS: I know not everyone has an HD-DVD or Bluray player, but I have an idea. If you bought it from Best Buy, just take the monitor down there and ask to hook it up to one of their players. I've done similar things in the past, and if you're a convincing person you will get your way. Just try it
My picture shows that it is in the corner. Personally that's preferable than in the center or along an entire edge.peTeMelster said:Backlight uniformity problem's harm IS that it's not as visually pleasing. You'll have different brightness at various places, so the colors don't look the same, so the colors aren't displayed as accuractely.
The composite might have looked better because your HDTV is bigger. The larger you stretch a picture, the worse it looks.