FuryX aging tremendously bad in 2017

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  1. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    Most 2017 AAA titles had the FurX dropping fast below the 980Ti, and even the GTX1060/RX580/980 level. It's due to a combination of bad Tessellation/Geometry performance, limited VRAM and bad optimizations. And that's only 2 years after it's introduction to the market. Guess Kepler wasn't alone afterall. Here are the games affected (copied from multiple sources):

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    Ghost Recon Wildlands

    980Ti is 28% faster than FuryX @1080p and @1440p!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ghost-recon-wildlands-test-gpu

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Tom-C...55716/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Review-1222520/

    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Ghost_Recon_Wildlands/5.html

    http://pclab.pl/art73276-5.html

    https://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficz..._recon_wildlands_pc_dzikie_wymagania?page=0,8

    http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/ghost-recon-wildlands-test/strona/27689.html

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    Ark Survival Evolved

    980Ti is 20~30% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p, even a GTX 1060 is faster or equal to FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ark-survival-evolved-test-gpu-cpu

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/ARK-S...5571/Specials/Release-Benchmark-Test-1237821/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-08...afikkartenbenchmarks_von_full_hd_bis_ultra_hd

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    Mass Effect Andromeda

    980Ti is 23~40% faster than FuryX in Mass effect Andromeda @1080p, 17~30% @1440p! FuryX is barely faster than a 480 or 1060.

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/mass-effect-andromeda-test-gpu

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Mass-...55712/Specials/Mass-Effect-Andromeda-1223325/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03...abschnitt_benchmarks_von_full_hd_bis_ultra_hd

    https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/mass_effect_andromeda_pc_performance_review/6

    http://pclab.pl/art73529-5.html

    https://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficz...ffect_andromeda_pc_ludzkie_wymagania?page=0,7

    http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/mass-effect-andromeda-test/strona/27745.html

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    Tekken 7

    980Ti is 25% faster than FuryX @4K, the only resolution that matters, 980 is almost as fast as the FuryX.

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/tekken-7-test-gpu-cpu

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    Agents Of Mayhem

    980Ti is 58% faster than FuryX @1080p and 25% faster @1440p, even the 1060 is ahead of the FuryX @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/agents-of-mayhem-test-gpu-cpu

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    Dishonored Death Of Outsider

    980Ti is 30% faster than FuryX @1080p and 24% faster @1440p!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/dishonored-death-of-the-outsider-test-gpu-cpu

    https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/tes..._death_of_the_outsider_bywalo_gorzej?page=0,8

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    Project Cars 2

    980Ti is 43% faster than FuryX @1080p and 25% faster @1440p!

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Proje...Specials/Benchmark-Test-Grafikkarten-1238952/

    https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/project_cars_2_pc_performance_review/9
    http://pclab.pl/art75527-5.html

    http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/project-cars2-test/strona/28644.html

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09...afikkartenbenchmarks_von_full_hd_bis_ultra_hd

    https://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficz...jnosci_kart_graficznych_i_procesorow?page=0,7

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    F1 2017

    GTX1070 is 20% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-08/f1-2017-pc-benchmark/2/#diagramm-f1-2017-1920-1080

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    Total War Warhammer 2

    980Ti is 40% faster than FuryX @1080p, and 35% faster @1440p, even a GTX 1060 is equal or faster than FuryX

    http://gamegpu.com/rts-/-стратегии/total-war-warhammer-ii-test-gpu-cpu

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Total...60823/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Review-1240653/

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    Destiny 2

    980Ti is 25% faster than FuryX @1080p

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/destiny-2-test-gpu-cpu

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10/destiny-2-benchmark/2/#diagramm-destiny-2-1920-1080

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Desti...Destiny-2-PC-Technik-Test-Benchmarks-1241945/

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/destiny_2_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,4.html

    https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/destiny_2_pc_performance_review/8

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    Assassin's Creed Origins

    980Ti is 22% faster than FuryX @1080p and 25% faster @1440p, even 980 is equal to FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-origins-test-gpu-cpu

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Assassins-Creed-Origins-Spiel-61043/Specials/Benchmark-Test-1242105/2/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10...2/#diagramm-assassins-creed-origins-1920-1080

    http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/assassins-creed-origins-wrazenia-i-testy/strona/28834.html

    https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/assassin_s_creed_origins_pc_performance_review/8
    http://wccftech.com/assassins-creed-origins-graphics-card-performance/

    https://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficz...n_s_creed_origins_problemy_w_egipcie?page=0,9

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    The Evil Within 2

    980Ti is 22% faster than FuryX @1080p

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-evil-within-2-test-gpu-cpu

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    Call Of Duty WW2

    980Ti is 35% faster than FuryX @1080p, and 25% faster @1440p

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Call-...-of-Duty-WW2-Technik-Test-Benchmarks-1242690/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-11...abschnitt_frametimes_von_vega_64_und_gtx_1080

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/call-of-duty-wwii-test-gpu-cpu

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/call_of_duty_ww2_pc_graphics_analysis_benchmark_review,4.html

    https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/call_of_duty_wwii_pc_performance_review/9

    https://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficz..._duty_wwii_dramat_graczy_i_zolnierzy?page=0,9

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    Wolfenstein 2:

    980Ti is 50% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Wolfe...us-im-Technik-Test-Benchmarks-Vulkan-1242138/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10...nstein-2-1920-1080-anspruchsvolle-testsequenz

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-test-gpu-cpu

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    Shadow Of War

    980Ti is 20% faster @1080p, and 50% faster @1440p

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-test-gpu-cpu

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Mitte...erde-Schatten-des-Krieges-Benchmarks-1240756/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-10...amm-mittelerde-schatten-des-krieges-2560-1440

    https://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficz...th_shadow_of_war_srodziemie_w_ogniu?page=0,10

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    Forza 7
    980Ti is 30% faster @1080p and 1440p

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09/forza-7-benchmark/2/#diagramm-forza-7-3840-2160

    https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/76...ideokaarten-testresultaten-ultra-hd-3840x2160

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    Player's Unkown BattleGround

    GTX 1060 is 16% faster than FuryX @1080p and 10% faster @1440p!

    https://www.techspot.com/review/1476-amd-radeon-vega-64/page7.html

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    Need For Speed Payback

    980Ti is 20% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Need-...iew-Release-Test-Systemanforderungen-1243074/

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    FortNite

    980Ti is 30% faster than FuryX @1080p and 20% faster @1440p

    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/fortnite-test-gpu-cpu

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    EDIT: MORE GAMES

    Divinity Original Sin 2
    980Ti is 20% faster than FuryX @1080p (and 17% faster @1440p), 980 is almost as fast as FuryX @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/rpg/роллевые/divinity-original-sin-2-test-gpu

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    Obduction
    980Ti is 55% faster than FuryX @1080p(and 30% faster @1440p), 780Ti is delivering the same fps as FuryX @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/rpg/роллевые/obduction-test-gpu

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    ABZU
    980Ti is 52% faster than FuryX @1080p, (and 30% faster @1440p), 980 is 17% faster than FuryX @1080p as well!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/abzu-test-gpu

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    War Thunder
    980Ti is 15% faster than FuryX @1080p, @1440p it is 25% faster than FuryX, 980 is closely fast as it as well @1080p!
    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/war-thunder-1-59-test-gpu

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    The Technomancer
    980Ti is 25% faster than FuryX @1080p (and 17% faster @1440p)! 980 is as equal as well @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/rpg/роллевые/the-technomancer-test-gpu
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    Firewatch
    980Ti is 25% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p, 980 is almost as fast as it as well @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/firewatch-test-gpu.html

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    Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen
    980Ti is 24% faster than FuryX @4K and @1440p, 980 is as fast as it as well @1440p! (@1080p all cards are CPU limited).

    http://gamegpu.com/rpg/rollevye/dragons-dogma-dark-arisen-test-gpu.html

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    Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak
    980Ti is 20% faster than FuryX @4k, though it drops to just 15% @1440p! (@1080p all cards are CPU limited).

    http://gamegpu.com/rts-/-strategii/homeworld-deserts-of-kharak-test-gpu.html

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    Crossout
    980Ti is 46% faster than FuryX @1080p, (and 32% faster @1440p), even 980 is faster @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/crossout-test-gpu

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    Mad Max
    980Ti is 23% faster than FuryX @1080p, and 18% faster @1440p! The regular 980 is close to the FuryX.

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Mad-Max-Spiel-13115/Tests/Test-Benchmarks-1169934/
    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/mad-max-test-gpu-2015.html
    https://us.hardware.info/reviews/64...-test-results-full-hd-1920x1080-+-frame-times


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    Call Of Duty Modern Warfare Remastered
    980Ti is a whooping 60~72% faster than FuryX @1080, even a 970 is faster than FuryX! @1440p, the advantage collapses to 25~60%, and regular 980 is equal to FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-remastered-test-gpu
    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Call-...59978/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Review-1234383/

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    Battleborn
    980Ti is 30% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p, 980 is equally as fast as the FuryX!

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battleborn-Spiel-54612/Specials/Benchmark-Review-1194406/

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    Homefront: The Revolution
    980Ti is 34% faster than FuryX @1080p, and 23% faster @1440p

    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/homefront_the_revolution_pc_performance_review/7
    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Homefront-The-Revolution-Spiel-54406/Tests/Benchmarks-Test-1195960/
    https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/69...testresultaten-full-hd-1920x1080-+-frametimes

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    Assassin's Creed Syndicate
    980Ti is 24% faster than FuryX @1080p! 21% faster @1440p! 980 is almost equally as fast!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassin-s-creed-syndicate-test-gpu-2015.html

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Gefor...afikkarte-265855/Tests/Test-Review-1222421/2/

    https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08...#diagramm-assassins-creed-syndicate-1920-1080

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    Conan Exile
    980Ti is 45% than FuryX @1080p, 28% faster @1440p! 980 is as fast as FuryX at both resolutions!

    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/conan-exiles-test-gpu

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    Styx Shardsw Of Darknes
    980Ti is 36% faster than FuryX @1080p, 34% faster @1440p, and 22% faster @4K! Even a regular 980 is almost as fast as FuryX @4K!

    http://gamegpu.com/rpg/роллевые/styx-shards-of-darkness-test-gpu

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    Ghost Recon Wildlands
    980Ti is 28% faster than FuryX @1080p and @1440p!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/ghost-recon-wildlands-test-gpu

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    Forza Horizon 3
    980Ti is over 50% faster than FuryX @1080p! 40% faster @1440p, even a 980 and a 1060 are faster than FuryX here!

    http://gamegpu.com/racing-simulators-/-гонки/forza-horizon-3-test-gpu
    https://overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/forza_horizon_3_pc_performance_review/8
    https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/70...testresultaten-full-hd-1920x1080-+-frametimes
    https://www.computerbase.de/2016-09...abschnitt_benchmarks_von_full_hd_bis_ultra_hd
    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Forza.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirextX-12-1208835/

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    Anno2205
    980Ti is more than 30% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p!

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-test/2/#diagramm-anno-2205-1920-1080

    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Anno_2205/3.html

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Anno-2205-Spiel-55714/Specials/Technik-Test-Benchmarks-1175781/

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/anno_2205_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,7.html

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    Ultimte Epic Battle Simulator
    980Ti is more than 60% faster than FuryX @1080p and 50% faster @1440p, the regular 980 is ahead of the FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/rts-/-стратегии/ultimate-epic-battle-simulator-test-gpu

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    Escape from Tarkov
    980Ti is more than 35% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p! The regular 980 is slightly ahead of the FuryX as well!

    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/escape-from-tarkov-alpha-test-gpu

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    OutLast 2
    980Ti is 44% faster than FuryX @1080p and 27% faster @1440p, even the 780Ti is ahead of the FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/outlast-2-test-gpu

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    Inner Chains
    980Ti is 50% faster than FuryX @1080p and 37% faster @1440p, even the 970 is ahead of the FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/inner-chains-test-gpu-cpu

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    Dying Light
    980Ti is 40% faster than FuryX @1080p and 27% faster @1440p, the regular 980 is slightly ahead of the FuryX

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/dying-light-the-following-test-gpu.html

    https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews...owing_pc_performance_review_-_amd_vs_nvidia/7

    http://www.babeltechreviews.com/fury-x-vs-gtx-980-ti-revisited-36-games-including-watch-dogs-2/3/
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    Observer
    980Ti is 20% faster than FuryX @1080p and 15% faster @1440p

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/observer-test-gpu-cpu

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    Law Breaker
    980Ti is 25% faster than FuryX @1080p and 14% faster @1440p

    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/lawbreakers-test-gpu-cpu

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    ArmA 3
    980Ti is 29% faster than FuryX @1080p

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/arma-3-test-gpu-cpu

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    Sudden Strike 4
    980Ti is 20% faster than FuryX @1080p

    http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Sudde...cials/Benchmarks-Test-Review-Preview-1232271/
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    Vanquish
    980Ti is 84% faster than FuryX @1080p and 40% faster @1440p, even the 970 is ahead of the FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/vanquish-test-gpu-cpu

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    RiME
    980Ti is 37% faster than FuryX @1080p and 25% faster @1440p, even the 1060 is ahead of the FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/rpg/ролевые/rime-test-gpu-cpu

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    Get Even
    980Ti is 65% faster than FuryX @1080p and 50% faster @1440p, even the 1060 is ahead of the FuryX!

    http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/get-even-test-gpu-cpu

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    Aven Colony
    980Ti is 56% faster than FuryX @1080p and 33% faster @1440p, even the 1060 is ahead of the FuryX @1080p!

    http://gamegpu.com/rts-/-стратегии/aven-colony-test-gpu-cpu

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    Project Cars,
    980Ti is 50% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p

    http://www.babeltechreviews.com/fury-x-vs-gtx-980-ti-revisited-36-games-including-watch-dogs-2/3/

    The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter
    980Ti is 30% faster than FuryX @1080p and 1440p
    http://www.babeltechreviews.com/fury-x-vs-gtx-980-ti-revisited-36-games-including-watch-dogs-2/3/

    Alien Isolation
    980Ti is 26% faster than FuryX @1080p and 17% faster @1440p
    http://www.babeltechreviews.com/fury-x-vs-gtx-980-ti-revisited-36-games-including-watch-dogs-2/3/
     
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  2. Master_shake_

    Master_shake_ Little Bitch

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    restrictive overclocking and stupid price made this card a non starter imho.
     
  3. defaultluser

    defaultluser I B Smart

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    AMD Fine Wine was actually AMD Fine Vinegar when they popped the cork.

    Who would have thought that optimizations necessary to hack around 4GB memory on a 1440p card would turn out to be too hard to continue indefinitely?

    At least with Vega there's the right amount of ram this time.
     
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  4. vegeta535

    vegeta535 2[H]4U

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    Shows you how much of a mistake AMD made with going with HBM. It hurt them with Fury and now with Vega. Fury would of fair better now if they went with 8GB of GDDR5 then 4GB of HBM.
     
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  5. Communism

    Communism Limp Gawd

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    Not even remotely possible to be within PCI-E 3.0 spec for power with Fury X using GDDR5 without sacrificing even more clocks.

    I don't think anyone would like 700-800 mhz in games Fury X for same price.

    512-bit GDDR5 @ 8000 MT/S isn't exactly low power.
     
  6. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    It's not about VRAM only though, if you check the links, half these games are within the 4GB VRAM limit, it's just they use heavy polygon count/tessellation which impacts the performance of Fury GPUs
     
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  7. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

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    The 4GB limitation is certainly a problem, but HBM as a technology isn't what hobbled the Fury cards- it's their architecture. It's also what's hobbling the Vega cards next to Nvidia's GP104 lineup (1070/1070Ti/1080), which are smaller chips with inferior compute resources that can best the full Vega64 at its very best while sucking down less juice.

    HBM is actually perfect for GPUs from a technology standpoint, but the yields aren't there and the volume isn't there, so price is exorbitant and the performance of Vega (and Fury before it) can't justify it.
     
  8. Nuby1Canuby

    Nuby1Canuby Gawd

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  9. NKD

    NKD [H]ardness Supreme

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    lets make another worthless thread about an older card. Yep we got space for that.
     
  10. _mockingbird

    _mockingbird Gawd

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    RTG doesn't have many other choices.

    The GPU is so power-hungry that it needs every bit of power saving that HBM can offer.
     
  11. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    Did they test any of the games mentioned here? NOPE.
    ComputerBase has an updated 2017 chart, it shows the Fury X is far below 980Ti.
     
  12. Nuby1Canuby

    Nuby1Canuby Gawd

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    Guru3d has the Fury X beating the 980 TI @ 1440P and 2560P. I see you left that out since you are only cherry picking the results where the Fury X loses.
    Although it does looks like AMD may be neglecting their driver optimizations for the older cards.
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/destiny-2-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,5.html
     
  13. JustReason

    JustReason razor1 is my Lover

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    Another AMD bashing thread from another shill. How are these threads even staying open?
     
  14. Araxie

    Araxie [H]ardness Supreme

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    Its good for the forum.. more clicks more views always help kyle to pay the bills.. c'mon let's the thread reach 3000 post of war post then we can start copy paste(quoting) from other threads what's already has been discussed and maybe, just maybe someone may learn anything new xD.

    and yes, im drunk a Monday at 6am. lol.
     
  15. Nightfire

    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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    So you compiled a list of games that do terrible on ALL AMD cards. Great work, OP! Not sure where the Fury X comes into place where the RX 580 and Rx 390 do just as bad or worse in all of these. Wolfenstein might be only exception whereas the 4 GB vRAM finally hinders this card.
     
  16. Nightfire

    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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    Looks like that GTX 1070 is aging bad as well:
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    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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  18. Dayaks

    Dayaks [H]ardness Supreme

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    AMD fails at DFM (design for manufacture) repetivitively. You know.. the most important part of designing a product. It feels like the struggle to design a product at all though (on the GPU side.)

    With a limited budget I guess you can't do everything...
     
  19. Araxie

    Araxie [H]ardness Supreme

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    it's a problem, and it's a terrible one, AMD had 2 engineers specifically dedicated to vRAM optimizations in certain games, most popular ones, however in certain games the issues are still obvious (from it's time) making a 390X with 8GB perform much better than Fury and FuryX, nowadays they now have Vega with 8GB and they don't need to optimize anymore, and then you have cases as the new wolfenstein with a RX 480 crushing Fury X because the optimizations have stopped, you have no idea how terrible it's the FuryX on games with UHD texture packs and/or MODS, or games where TRULY was necessary 4GB+ (as it was Dying light or Shadow of mordor, GTA V from it's time or Rise of the Tomb Raider, Resident Evil 7, Mass Effect Andromeda from more recent times).

    GTX 1070 it's Aging as it should.. recent [H] review proven the Vega56 to be ~35% faster than Fury due clocks. which point exactly above GTX 1070. GTX 1070 it's aging fine, and that's the reason why the GTX 1070Ti was launched.
     
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    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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  21. fightingfi

    fightingfi Look at Me! I need the attention.

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    I HATE bad negative reports from any video card maker always think GREAT wonderful Positive thoughts i guess i could bring up how shitty nvidia was when hl2 came out and didnt support dx9 like ati did back then but i wont go there oh wait......i just did
     
  22. Nightfire

    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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    A TERRIBLE PROBLEM you say.

    I had this same discussion here: https://hardforum.com/threads/wolfenstein-ii-shows-8gb-vram-is-a-must.1947517/

    After being released 2.5 years ago, nobody seemed to be able to show me a benchmark (other than Wolf 2) where 4 gb was showing to be a problem, much less getting crushed by the rx 480
     
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    stashix Limp Gawd

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  24. rgMekanic

    rgMekanic [H]ard|News Staff Member

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    Ark Survival Evolved

    Gameworks game.
    https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/a...scusses-nvidia-gameworks-future-game-features
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    Mass Effect Andromeda

    Gameworks Game
    https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/04/mass_effect_andromeda_video_card_performance_preview/

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    Tekken 7

    Random Russian site using ancient AMD drivers again (17.5.2 came out in May.), and the only benchmarks available.

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    Agents Of Mayhem

    Gameworks Game.
    https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/agents-of-mayhem-release

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    Dishonored Death Of Outsider

    No idea, weird engine. Who the hell knows.

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    Project Cars 2

    gameworks game
    And if you expected of all games Project Cars to perform on AMD hardware you've been under a rock for 2 years.
    http://www.pcgamer.com/project-cars...entionally-crippled-performance-on-amd-cards/

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    F1 2017

    Gameworks game.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-gameworks-strikes-again-f1-2017-benchs.808488/

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    Total War Warhammer 2

    Who knows, any googling I did showed the game running like crap on every system.



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    Destiny 2

    Gameworks game, with nvidia bundles
    https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/destiny-2-pc-beta-keys-hdr-sli-geforce-gtx-bundle



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    Assassin's Creed Origins

    at 1080 the GTX1060 was beating Vega 64.. much optimization.. very wow.
    https://wccftech.com/assassins-creed-origins-graphics-card-performance/
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    The Evil Within 2

    I can find no other benchmarks for this game than your obscure site.
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    Call Of Duty WW2

    And once you use the proper drivers (albeit the beta version, not the release thats out now) the fury is slower than 980ti by 4 FPS..... 4.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Call_Of_Duty_WW_II/4.html

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    Wolfenstein 2:

    Can't argue here, all 4GB cards are getting slaughtered by Wolfenstein 2, perhaps some texture optimization can be patched in, perhaps not, but it isn't exclusive to the Fury.
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-pc-graphics-analysis-benchmark-review,5.html

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    Shadow Of War

    gameworks game.
    https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-adds-ansel-hdr-sli

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    Forza 7
    Except it isn't.
    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/forza-7-pc-graphics-performance-benchmarks.html
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    Player's Unkown BattleGround

    Runs like shit on everything, early access, and ... gameworks.
    https://www.vg247.com/2017/08/21/pl...vidia-hbao-and-shadowplay-highlights-support/

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    Need For Speed Payback

    I can find nowhere else on the internet that has benchmarked this game.
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    FortNite

    Your own link is using outdated drivers, and before the nov. 1st performance patch Epic stated they were working on.

    http://gamegpu.com/mmorpg-/-онлайн-игры/fortnite-test-gpu-cpu



    Seriously, how much is Nvidia paying some of you? I could use a new day job.


    Edit: I missed Tekken
     
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  25. Pieter3dnow

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    So where is the chart that shows it choking 4gb more then anything else on all of those tests ?
     
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  26. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    F1 2017 is not a GameWorks title, links to a forum question is now considered a source?

    You are linking the old article, before NVIDIA released their new Forza 7 drivers, here is the new one where GTX 1060 is faster than FuryX.

    https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09/forza-7-benchmark/2/

    The rest of yout post isn't even worth responding to, many of these games are not GameWorks titles, and those who are, are popular AAA titles that should work well on any GPU. That's how GPUs age badly, they fall behind in AAA titles, Kepler suffered the same fate and the pattern is clear here with Fiji.
     
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  27. Caffeinated

    Caffeinated [H]ard|Gawd

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    The writing was on the wall even two years ago that 4GB of RAM wasn't nearly enough for the future. I expect we will see 8 GB being the bare minimum moving forward in late 2018. Add a few mods to AAA titles, and you can sink a lot of cards that don't have 8 GB's even now in late 2017.
     
  28. rgMekanic

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    Is this a better link for you on F1 2017?
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/f1_2017_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

    Also in the article from a reputable site "Nvidia reverts to HBAO+" how do you get HBAO+ into your game? Hmmmm..... Oh yeah, it's a Gameworks feature.

    dunno how 77 vs. 71 FPS = 30%.

    Yes... they are. And the majority of Gameworks titles run shit tier on all hardware (red or green) and it's been proven over and over and over that AMD hardware runs like shit on Gameworks implimented games.
     
  29. razor1

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    Only if gameworks libraries that are used are on and use tessellation. That is a weakness of AMD cards, can't get around that, nV took advantage of that. Just like how AMD took early advantage of async compute.

    Also about HBAO+

    I suggest reading this.

    https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/hbao-compatibility-flags-thread.387114/

    It by itself shouldn't hurt performance of AMD cards, it actually is just a tad bit slower than HBAO even on nV cards, the % hit should be in 2-5% range over HBAO with better image quality.

    Now the draw back of HBAO+ is memory usage. It uses more memory than traditional HBAO, now it shouldn't be so much that it would hurt a 4gb card though.... So that performance difference is quite interesting, but then again we don't know what is going on unless we isolate HBAO then run the tests.
     
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  30. Geforcepat

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    Duh. i've been saying this for 2 years. get the 980ti.
     
  31. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    My link is also from ComputerBase which is also a reputable source, if you have problems with it, start by pointing out why their testing is invalid.

    In fact reading their article will show you their testing is more valid because they used max settings: Ultra + SSRT shadows, while Guru3d only tested Ultra settings.

    You mean like FuryX is aging badly now?
    What are you posting are just old links with old games, they have none of the games of 2017.

    Here is a more recent chart with new titles + old ones:
    https://www.computerbase.de/thema/grafikkarte/rangliste/?amp=1

    Fermi aging bad? Nope Latest comparison shows the 480 destroying 5870 in new titles, same for 580 vs 6970.
     
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  32. Digital Viper-X-

    Digital Viper-X- [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Where, where are these :) I'd like to see who the hell wastes time on testing 2 obsolete cards.
     
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  33. razor1

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    Well there is no such thing as fine wine or aged well in tech lol.
     
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  34. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    Some channels do:

    8800GTX VS HD 2900 (NVIDIA faster)




    GTX 480 VS HD 5870 (NVIDIA faster)




    Another test for you:

    [​IMG]
     
  35. crazycrave

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    All 4Gb cards are not the same when you think of a monster like Hawaii with 512Mb memory buffer and the main reason it keeps getting faster because we now have DDR 4 memory for faster cpu's and I would think a card like Hawaii would keep getting faster once chipset's are on a even par with DDR5 .. heck even the 7950 with it 384 Bit memory buffer can still play 1080p titles .
     
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    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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    OP has derailed his own thread in desperation. Uses random youtube videos to try and prove a point.
    1st video compares 2 GPUs in modern games that would probably loose to an APU or iGPU
    2nd video compares a $380 Hd 5870 to a $500 fire-breathing GTX 480. Not a very commanding lead save GTA V: old.PNG

    Basis of this entire thread:
    1.) Cherry pick a few games to show aging results
    2.) Of those cherry picked games, cherry pick various reviews to try and prove a point
    3.) Have others chearlead your "findings"
    4.) Win
     
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  37. Nightfire

    Nightfire [H]ard|Gawd

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    Yeah, well Radeonmatt disagrees.
     
  38. Hameeeedo

    Hameeeedo Limp Gawd

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    GTX 480 wins 5 games, with Battlefront and GTA 5 massively ahead. HD 5870 wins only 2. Do you even understand numbers mate?
     
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  39. rgMekanic

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    Yes, a mainstream card was beaten by an egg cooking flagship card 70% of the time.


    woo.
     
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  40. sabrewolf732

    sabrewolf732 2[H]4U

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    this made me laugh way too hard.

    trash thread is trash.
     
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