People who should be happy to see all this performance from both brands at decent pricing = everyone else.
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People who should be happy to see all this performance from both brands at decent pricing = everyone else.
Christ, here come the fucking armchair engineers....
It's a 275W card. It doesn't REQUIRE liquid cooling.
290X uses more power and there are no factory water-cooled models on the market.I sort of doubt they'd go liquid cooling if it wasn't pretty much required though? It doesn't make much sense otherwise.
290X uses more power and there are no factory water-cooled models on the market.
And why do people watercool their GPUs in the first place? If they don't "need" it.
I'm not even sure how to fully respond to that. People put their cards on water because it makes them quieter/cooler and boosts OC headroom.
It's a single 120mm radiator.First, you've got to find space to put the mandatory rad, which will probably be a pain for some people.
I imagine that's what the Fury is for, assuming it's also Fiji XT.Second, what if you want to put these in a custom loop?
The 290x generates an ENORMOUS amount of heat though. I know because I run two of them in crossfire in a custom loop. I suspect that AMD is trying to avoid the noise problem they had with reference 290x coolers, but I will still bet that Fury X is going to generate a ton of heat.
Making a card come with a closed loop is pretty inconvenient, frankly, for at least two reasons. First, you've got to find space to put the mandatory rad, which will probably be a pain for some people. Second, what if you want to put these in a custom loop?
would be pretty cool if AIBs offered bare cards with just an OEM designed PCB and no cooler at a slightly discounted price for people who were gonna just put a block on it
that won't happen warranty issues
I remember one guy going from different busses, cut off a part of the pci-e connector to fit it into an agp slot lol
I'm a Titan X owner and I'm not mad at all. This kind of competition could mean the next Titan will be $650 and the __80 Ti will be $550. I'm also happy to see AMD fans finally get a new product to be excited about.People who might be mad = Titan X owners (going to be undercut by both)
People who should be happy to see all this performance from both brands at decent pricing = everyone else.
Don't worry, there is always Reddit to figure out what the AMD driver can't.
To fix issue that plagued both prior gen nvidia hardware and amd hardware?
Well DP isn't common on audio and cable boxes hdmi is so rather shove more hdmi on tv's rather than dp. Problem with adaptors is if the adaptors will keep the hdcp support else that can cause issues.He's talking about the latest Panasonic TVs.
I think Panasonic is the only TV manufacturer that has been incorporating DP. Every other vendor has been using HDMI... which sucks because DisplayPort is the superior interface and Sony's XBRs don't have them.
people do stupid things , and if adding their own cooler to a card is under warranty things can go very wrong. its easy to flip some power pins around and fry the card.
Well DP isn't common on audio and cable boxes hdmi is so rather shove more hdmi on tv's rather than dp. Problem with adaptors is if the adaptors will keep the hdcp support else that can cause issues.
adding your own cooler is already under warranty by certain brands (MSI; ASUS, Gigabyte)
That plagued previous gen Nvidia and what was top end AMD.
It depends on AMD, really.
Previous Titans capitalized on the fact that they were way faster than anything they had at the time. If AMD released the 290X/Fury X a lot earlier, there's no way NVIDIA could justify the $1000 price tag.
'm fine with HDMI formats continuing to exist in the living room. I'd prefer to keep my receiver as long as possible.
Do you think msi or some other company will put out a non-reference with hdmi 2.0? If so I may wait to buy this.
I dunno man, no DVI mean you can't use it with that 120Hz Korean IPS panel you have, no HDMI 2.0 means you'll have to game at 30Hz on your 40" 4K TV. And lastly it offers only 4GB of HBM, meaning it's not even 4K ready. Sounds like a dud to me, so you may as well forget this card even exists and just buy the 980 Ti instead.
/sarcasm
I for one am stoked to see AMD come out with something not only unique, but genuinely competitive. A beast of a card at stock that comes with a friggin factory watercooler and plenty of OC headroom. I have to admit, it has me salivating and if funds permit it, I will absolutely be in the market for one.
Well done, AMD. Well done.
crushed Nvidia in all line ups.
awesome move.
Crushed? You must be smoking something good or have seen reviews we haven't.
Can we please stop spouting this bullshit about 4GB not being enough for 4K. Someone show me a game benchmark where it really shows that 4GB is not enough because I haven't seen one. Not here and elsewhere.And lastly it offers only 4GB of HBM, meaning it's not even 4K ready.
I saw something that they are only 1.4? Thats what the amd rep said on overclock.net at least.
If this cant do 4k60hz thru hdmi its kinda a deal breaker for me as I want to get a 4k tv for gaming.