FUD: Nvidia to exit chipset business

unleashed said:
Nvidia's objections don't mean anything at this point. It's all PR game.
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It's funny how much people will stretch debunked rumors to make Charlie seem right. He's wrong again, as usual. Get used to it.
 
Haha, I remember when AMD denied layoffs. I wonder what all these pink slips are for...*stares for some time in wonder*.

A company denying something of course doesn't mean much, they can of course lie to us.

Now on personal opinion, I am doubting Nvidia will pull out. This would put Nvidia into a bind in my opinion. They would be at the mercy of the current chipset maker. The chipset maker, who ever it may be at the time can just decide not to include such vital things like SLI support. Nvidia would be handing its heart over to who ever wants to grab it, and all they could do is hope they don't squeeze it too hard. They may be loosing somewhat on the chipset market, but honestly they will probably need it to stay in without being hit hard.
 
heatlesssun said:
So an unsubstantiated rumor is more valid? Guilty until proven innocent?
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Let's take it where it really matters...
Assuming you owned the nVidia stock, because you're such a fan of the company and its products.
Would you be better off by listening to "doom and gloom, I hate nVidia Charlie" or to the usual baseless spin coming out of the nVidia's PR machine assisted by the statements of the so-called financial "analysts", issuing stock upgrades days before the 30% (single day) stock plunge?
You decide.
 
"Nvidia has denied that it’s planning to exit the chipset business, despite a claim to the contrary last week.

The firm has issued a statement that stresses it has “no intention of getting out of the chipset business,” following a report by Digitimes last week that claimed the firm was poised to leave the market.

On Friday, Digitimes reported that an unnamed source had told it that Nvidia had called a meeting recently with its motherboard partners, to gauge support for its continued chipset development.

However, Nvidia has since stated that Digitimes’ report is false and “completely groundless”.

On the contrary, Nvidia said that its media and communication processors (MCP) unit is “as strong as it has ever been for both AMD and Intel platforms”.

The firm also said it’s looking forward to bringing “new and very exciting MCP products to the market” for both Intel and AMD platforms."
-Guru3d.com
 
pxc said:
It's funny how much people will stretch debunked rumors to make Charlie seem right. He's wrong again, as usual. Get used to it.
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Glad I'm not the only one seeing that...

Last week, in Tech-Report I had a long discussion with regular members, about their persistance to state that "the INQ is probably right" (about the "ALL G84 and G86 chips are bad, desktop and laptop" article from the INQ), after Dell had issued a fix for some of their laptops.
Even though Dell's fix was specifically just for some laptops, with G84 and G86 chip, a few dozen people were continuing to support the INQs FUD that ALL G86 and G84 were bad, even though there's no evidence to support that.

I'm not exactly sure how this Charlie character became credible in someone's eyes, but I guess I'm not too far off from the truth when I say that that someone has some bias against a certain company, much like Charlie does and thus supports his articles, is it based on proof or not.
 
Charlie has become credible because he's essentially the only one reporting on the story, and we know for a fact that there is a problem. In fact, The Inq started reporting on bad G84/86s back when they were released, so it's hardly anything new for them. There's also the fact that The Inq doesn't depend on pre-release samples for reviews to drive traffic to their site, so they can be critical of a company/product in ways that other sites can't. All of this doesn't mean that they're always right - The Inq has it's reputation for a reason - but for this issue it seems that they are absolutely correct.

Now there's the 'rumour' of nVidia getting out of the chipset business. I think this makes sense. The nVidia Intel chipsets have been a farce, with the data corruption issue, bad drivers and lackluster sales. Other than SLI (which is a small percentage of users), why would you not go with an Intel chipset board for an Intel processor? Then there's the AMD side. When AMD acquired ATI they got a top-notch chipset design team in the deal. It used to be that nVidia was practically the only player in the AMD chipset market, and now AMD is squeezing them out. Take a look around - it's increasingly hard to find a AMD machine with a nVidia chipset. AnandTech reports that AMD's SB750 has has fixed the major issues that it's previous chipset had (ie. poor USB/IDE performance, high CPU usage), and AMDs integrated graphics are now as good as nVidia's. That removes all of the benefits that nVidia had over AMD and any reason to choose a nVidia chipset. That leaves nVidia with a product that has no market, and no reason to continue producing that product.

Let's see how this plays out, I think we're in for some interesting times ahead...
 
defiant007 said:
Even if not true, they are very funny to read.
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The not true part is understod even without saying. ;)

The comments are funny to read too. Charlie knows how to make click bait, and suckers keep biting.
 
It's just another rehash of the rumor. See the news section. nvidia directly confirmed to [H] and other sites that it is not quitting the chipset business.
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From a business perspective, NVIDIA has to deny this rumor/news!
Acknowledging the chipset business cancellation would hurt sales of current products.
Therefore, NVIDIA confirmation proves nothing.

IMO, quitting the chipset business makes sense when analyzing the available facts.
We will know for sure soon enough...
 
RadXge said:
From a business perspective, NVIDIA has to deny this rumor/news!
Acknowledging the chipset business cancellation would hurt sales of current products.
Therefore, NVIDIA confirmation proves nothing.

IMO, quitting the chipset business makes sense when analyzing the available facts.
We will know for sure soon enough...
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Do you think lying to the public about the true status of their chipset business is beneficial for Nv? Your argument defies logic and common sense. Get real.

Props to the click bait comment. Charlie's job is to generate clicks, what better way than to observe Nv's chipset issues and take it to the next level - "Nvidia is quitting the chipset business." He's full of crap, but if it sort of makes sense - people will click and believe. Pretty smart move on his part. Don't be a sucker for it.
 
RadXge said:
From a business perspective, NVIDIA has to deny this rumor/news!
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Actually, the truth is the opposite of that. nvidia would have to file such a large company change in the quarterly financial reports, much like AMD did a few weeks ago. nvidia can't just dismiss 17%+ of it's sales without explaining what it is doing. It's a public company.
 
I must ask, when and where have you seen any major company NOT denying rumours like this? I think it's written in some book called "corporate conduct 101" that you deny everything to the bitter end.

If you think these companies are out there to make happy customers you need to get real, they want our money and do not care in which way they get em. So lying to customers to keep sales on going is nothing new. And about the quarterly report, did the INQ rumour have a specific date on Nvidias retreat from chipset market, cause it might not happen immidiately. If you think about it, Nvidia is in a tough corner with their chipsets, this might very well happen later than sooner.
 
SharpieFiend said:
Charlie has become credible because he's essentially the only one reporting on the story
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I'm sorry, but I stopped reading after this part...
He becomes credible because he's the only one reporting it ? LOL

So that means if only I write an article in some tabloid site, based on absolutely nothing, that makes me credible ?
If that's the state of the news world, then damn, we are worse than I thought...
 
defiant007 said:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/08/02/nvidia-chipsets-dead

Another rant by Charlie. Even if not true, they are very funny to read.
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I asked this in another thread, but when does it become viable for NVIDIA to issue a law suit against this guy ?

This is getting way too ridiculous. There's not a single day that this "person" doesn't write an article smearing NVIDIA and usually based on nothing or based on articles that real news sources had already reported, twisting them to "his" agenda.
 
So when NV does exit the chipset business, will you admit Charlie was right?

I don't ever remember when he was out-right wrong because we all know weeks/months later, it becomes true and all the naysayers become red-faced.

But I guess your egos and stubborness here prevent you from agreeing with him.

I'm going to revive this thread when NV exits the business just to piss you off.
 
NV leaving the chipset business wouldn't be a bad thing...... After owning a 680i chip motherboard I will never buy their chipset again.
 
Nyte said:
So when NV does exit the chipset business, will you admit Charlie was right?
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Can you give me an example of when Charlie was right about something NVIDIA related ?

Nyte said:
I don't ever remember when he was out-right wrong because we all know weeks/months later, it becomes true and all the naysayers become red-faced.
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Wrong ? He's never 100% wrong. He just spins a piece of news that credible news sources already printed and spins them to what he wants. And when it's NVIDIA related, then it gets out of control. One of the most recent being:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/08/01/nvidia-cfo-retires

He doesn't even acknowledge his bias. He blames "the interweb". The guy is mentally handicapped. Not sure when did the Inquireer became a "credible" source of info, when it was supposed to be taken "with a large grain of salt" not too long ago. But fanboys are fanboys...they don't disappoint...

Nyte said:
But I guess your egos and stubborness here prevent you from agreeing with him.
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Agree with what ? Where is the proof ? That's right, it doesn't exist.

Nyte said:
I'm going to revive this thread when NV exits the business just to piss you off.
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Go ahead. I'll revive it too, when the opposite happens.
 
defiant007 said:
He was kinda right about nvidia stumbling with its GTX 200 generation of GPUs.
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Where did they stumble ?
The only problem with GTX 200 cards at launch, was the price. Performance wise, they have no problems.
 
Silus said:
I asked this in another thread, but when does it become viable for NVIDIA to issue a law suit against this guy ?

This is getting way too ridiculous. There's not a single day that this "person" doesn't write an article smearing NVIDIA and usually based on nothing or based on articles that real news sources had already reported, twisting them to "his" agenda.
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To sue for libel the statements made against you have to be untruthful. That's the reason why nVidia doesn't sue.
 
SharpieFiend said:
To sue for libel the statements made against you have to be untruthful. That's the reason why nVidia doesn't sue.
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It's definitely not that, because we are all still waiting to see any truth in Charlie's rants about NVIDIA.
 
Silus said:
Can you give me an example of when Charlie was right about something NVIDIA related ?
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I'm sure he can find one. As I'm fond of saying regarding The Inq, even a broken clock is right twice a' day.

The problem is that they are flat-out wrong ninety-nine times for every one time they get something right. Yet each story is filled with arrogance, needless flaming of their perceived "enemies", and always claims to be 100% true and verified/confirmed.

Here's a perfect example that I wrote about a while back. They had confirmed 100% that nvidia had already licensed SLi to Intel for the X38. They had even spoken to engineers. Then, of course, they called those denying it liars. . . outright.

I don't see SLi on any X38 boards. Does anyone else? Where are the retractions? Where is the shame? Of course, there never is any. They got their hits. They're happy. They're also despicable.
 
Hurin said:
I don't see SLi on any X38 boards. Does anyone else? Where are the retractions? Where is the shame? Of course, there never is any. They got their hits. They're happy. They're also despicable.
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People remember the press releases or the poached news printed on theinq (which are often botched in crowd pleasing ways), but tend to ignore the horrible rumor accuracy. Mixed in with the rest of the trash printed at theinq, the 10% correct rumor average is ignored by the kool aid drinkers because they want to believe, whether it's true or not.

If that's not enough to make people question the reliability of the obviously poor sources, it's a lost cause for those people.
 
i dont know if that true or not but nvidia has really pissed off some customers like when their chipsets were having corruption problems and also the mess with G84 and G86 mobile graphics, i wouldnt be suprised if they just quit but its not likely i mean SLI!!!! cant just disappear
 
It is going to be a while until we see a new NV chipset for Intel cause they are skipping Nehalem, so maybe 1-2 years

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=601

NVIDIA has already publicly stated they weren't going to let that happen - in a conference call earlier this year NVIDIA told reporters and analysts that they were indeed skipping the Bloomfield market by not making a chipset for it but that they had every intention of developing a chipset around Intel's next bus technology, DMI. For those of you not privy to this information before now, DMI is essentially the replacement for Intel CSI that will be released sometime mid-2009. Essentially a x4 PCI Express bus, DMI should be around for processors AFTER Bloomfield: Lynnfield, Clarksfield, etc.
 
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