Indeed, still waiting, but I have to say, something seriously feels up with AMD's graphics division right now... Make no mistake, the future of RTG is in serious doubt. RX Vega = 1080. We all know it, and so the only choice AMD now has is this: 1. Don't release RX Vega. 2. Release it and seriously undercut nvidia's equivalent. Polaris all over again basically. Frankly, if I were AMD, option 1 would be the wisest choice, and then spin off RTG. With the complete lack of current AMD stock on shelve, and no confirmation at all of any RX Vega products, and/or any indication that they'll even sell significantly, it feels to me that what Kyle originally said is pretty much going to play out.