staknhalo
Supreme [H]ardness
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Ha, looks like I wasn't far off when I said AlMost Dead
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I have no love for AMD since I haven't been able to get a fucking business card or any graphics cards for review from them.
But I shudder when I think about what will happen if Nvidia's only competition fades away. Prices will go up and innovation will slow.
If AMD dies, is there anyone that could take their place? Could Foxconn hire the best and brightest from AMD and start designing their own products?
The AMD ship started taking on water back in 2014. I personally broke free from AMD last year. With the 980ti and the 1080 I picked up this morning, I am never looking back.I also heard a rumor that Microsoft is going with a Pascal 1060 variant for their Xbox One refresh. Microsoft wants to firmly take the performance crown back.
Well when stock goes up or down then you certainly know the story was plantedProof that traders don't give a crap about rumours and articles with no sources cited. AMD is up almost 5% currently.
I have no love for AMD since I haven't been able to get a fucking business card or any graphics cards for review from them.
But I shudder when I think about what will happen if Nvidia's only competition fades away. Prices will go up and innovation will slow.
If AMD dies, is there anyone that could take their place? Could Foxconn hire the best and brightest from AMD and start designing their own products?
AMD has been in a Catch 22 situation for some time now. They needed a great product to get market share back from Nvidia and make enough money for a great R&D department, but they needed a great R&D department to make a great product.Can't say I'll blame Koduri. He probably believes RTG will be significantly more competitive if he had the resources they need, resources which AMD can no longer afford to provide, and they probably will never be able to.
This is an industry that takes a lot of money to be competitive in, there's no any other way around this.
Proof that traders don't give a crap about rumours and articles with no sources cited. AMD is up almost 5% currently.
I checked before I published the story, it was not up a full percent at that time. Guess we know the truth now eh? The Street want to see RTG get away from AMD's floundering CPU division?Well when stock goes up or down then you certainly know the story was planted
That has already happened.otherwise Nvidia will start charging $1000 for their high end single cards
I dunno, man. Not just finding the money, which would be billions of dollars, but also hiring enough skilled engineers, the production agreements, the sheer time to do all this while competing with Nvidia's NEXT generation... I don't see a new player coming in quite so easily.If AMD falls someone else will rise, the market is too atractive for just one player.
I dunno, man. Not just finding the money, which would be billions of dollars, but also hiring enough skilled engineers, the production agreements, the sheer time to do all this while competing with Nvidia's NEXT generation... I don't see a new player coming in quite so easily.
I guess maybe a player like Qualcomm or Samsung could step up. I just don't know if they'd be interested.
I dunno, man. Not just finding the money, which would be billions of dollars, but also hiring enough skilled engineers, the production agreements, the sheer time to do all this while competing with Nvidia's NEXT generation... I don't see a new player coming in quite so easily.
I guess maybe a player like Qualcomm or Samsung could step up. I just don't know if they'd be interested.
Kyle
May I get some clarity on what prompted this article's greenlight for posting?
I mean this editorial should have some real sourcing to back it up. Right now what I read is, and I am paraphrasing, I overheard water cooler talk and am reporting it to the masses as gospel.
I mean, come on bro, I love your site for various reasons, but the journalist in me is screaming rumor article. If I walked up to my editor and presented this to him/her it would get tossed in the trash. No sources, no citation. At least in the Nano article you had the evidence of being denied a timely sample model in relation to the rest of the industry to prove your point.
Sure-sure we could go with the 'time will vindicate me' assumption, but I see people in here singing praises for good journalism. This is more like the early stages of someone sticking a finger in the whistleblower pie to say they tasted it first. I do not believe you are the type of person to want that kind of reputation. The national inquirer is the worst in that ballpark, and CNN/Fox afternoon opinion reporters to a lesser extent. We know how much we respect them.
Sure workplace politics are interesting, and really put a finger on the atmosphere of the work environment. However, I sit here and wonder if you feel any sense of obligation to your readership when articles such as this are posted without any concrete evidence to present.
Point is:
Body language, third and fourth person accounts, and historical bias are not what make an article reportable. Harsh truths, links, names, places, events, and putting all of those pieces of the puzzle together are what make truly defining investigative articles.
Just my 2c from a longtime reader.
Kyle, I was told a few weeks ago that while GF 14nm process is very power efficient (compared to Fiji) it doesn't scale well, if at all (kind of like Fiji). I've also heard that AMD is working double time to increse clock speed (again like fiji) so maybe that's why its running hot now.
Kyle shows how to whine when you don't get invited to a AMD event. If Kyle is a professional he should stick to reviewing PC hardware (Intel/AMD/Nvidia) and not writing such rubbish. There are only 2 ways this can go - Kyle is right and AMD has a problem or he is horribly wrong and will have egg on his face on June 29th.
The only draw back of buying system parts based on [H] reviews is that they tend to last to long, which means fewer upgrades.All the fanboy remarks on both sides calling bias is ridiculous. I've been reading [H] for many years, even before making my forum handle, and they're my sole source for GPU and CPU reviews for gaming. I've also used those reviews to buy both sides of the aisle several times over, at least since 3DFX died.
Sure the reviews language can be harsh at times, but it is honest and they do their best to back it in fact as much as possible. And while I can't speak for Kyle, I can't imagine that either as a gamer or a businessman he would ever want AMD to go under and have this market be a monopoly for Nvidia. As a gamer, it drives up prices and lowers innovation, and for [H]...that's less reviews, less traffic, less interest. AMD is going full-retard by locking them out, looking like petulant children and doing further damage to their brand instead of less.
The only draw back of buying system parts based on [H] reviews is that they tend to last to long, which means fewer upgrades.
In my world, given the landscape, I would try to do this if I were AMD proper:
1) Sell off the RTG group to Intel. Seriously, if they are pushing so hard to go to the point of making things toxic, better you make a buck and control the deal. Greater control over terms and patents as well.
2) Form a new group, hiring the best engineers away from both NVidia and ATIntel, and whomever else sells gpus.
3) Partner with Microsoft - yes seriously - in developing a brand new architecture that will fully take advantage of the DX 12 promises from the ground up, keeping in mind the developers as well and how they hate learning new things.
4) Once the card is ready, take your shot, and perhaps you surprise the shit out of everyone with something that actually makes it a 3 horse race again, which we haven't seen since I believe the 90s.
1) Is that even possible? Wouldn't the government block such a sale using Anti-trust concerns?
2) Unless they are totally bereft of talent it is easier to develop their own folks or give them better focus than to restart from the ground up.
3) This would be a good idea. Surprised that NVidia hasn't done this actually.
Who told you this.Kyle, I was told a few weeks ago that while GF 14nm process is very power efficient (compared to Fiji) it doesn't scale well, if at all (kind of like Fiji).
I spoke to one of my professors, who is an IEEE senior fellow and who is acquainted with a rather famous AMD cpu architect/engineer...
This is exactly what he said, word for word, translated from Italian
"all is not well at global foundries "
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I take it he means in relation to amd, he would not say anything else