Framed 8.0 wall mounted PC, 150 hours....

zeusenergy

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Sometimes your ideas get a bit crazy and you just keep on moddin'. Thats what happened to me, and since then (July 2003 was when version 6.0 was designed) it just got worse. I finished Framed 8.0 in January 2004, and then came up with the idea of building the Callisto secondary machine to complement the first wall machine. The hardware in these machines is outdated and isn't top end at all, so if you are looking at my machine in disgust, just realize I have VERY little money and even less so since I just got my license suspended for two months and lost my job, too. (Waaaaa!!)
This configuration was chosen for its out-of-the-way wall mounting, access to many drives, and artistic vision provided by the acrylic panels and water features. The front panels are seamless since they are painted from behind. The two panels are removed by the oversized "thumbscrews" at the corners of each piece. Aluminum flat bar and plywood mounting panels provide support for everything. All of the lighting is either hidden behind panels or covered so the light gets projected onto the internal components instead of your eyes. The secondary machine has an LCD 15" flat panel (VGA 15-pin) OEM kit installed behind the glass and in fact that LCD used to be mounted to the dash of my Audi! The simplicity of this design allows for easy future modifications and total reconfiguration if need be. I use both machines in dual monitor mode, both have ATI all in wonder cards. Two CRT monitors provide the utility I need to do multiple things at once... Two TV tuners and a browser, Two browsers and a game, a game and a browser and email, DVD and TV and a browser, ETC...... It all gets used....
In the future, I plan to build a desk into the tiny office I've created along with a complete control system built-in for everything. It should look similar to Star Trek TNG Lcars controls... Nearly all of the electronic devices in this room will eventually be built-in to either the desk or wall.
If you are interested in having me build anything for you, I am gearing up for business and should be ready soon. I will build anything you can dream up but my specialty is displaying technology on a grand scale. My business web site should be ready in a few weeks, too. For now, my personal web site is up and running:
http://home.comcast.net/~zeusenergy/framed/framed.htm
Enjoy my site!

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sweet job man. I used to have a wall mounted PC a while back (PII days). It was NOTHING as cool as yours though...mine was just mounted on a piece of plywood that was painted black.
 
nst6563 said:
sweet job man. I used to have a wall mounted PC a while back (PII days). It was NOTHING as cool as yours though...mine was just mounted on a piece of plywood that was painted black.
You mean like this??? LOL! Except this is a 166 Pentium MMX.... Thanks for the props.

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kind of....I didn't have the case mounted on the plywood....just the bare parts :)
 
KoZLop: I ain't got jack cause my cash flows slow. But soon this will change. Till then, I'll soldier on with this setup:
8 fans
8 windows
11 bright green LED lights
2 blue cold cathode lights
29 thumbscrews
12 usb ports
4 removable hard drive frames
4 IDE ports, 8 total drives possible
20 custom aluminum and brass brackets
24 custom drive mounts
3 liters of water- just for looks for now... Hint hint
13 custom wire harnesses
36" x45" x 8" footprint

Soyo Dragon Ultra p4s-645DX mobo
1.7 GHZ P4
512 MB DDR
128 MB ATI All In Wonder 9600, dual output
Soundblaster Live! 5.1 Digital
Hardware 7 band EQ for headphone use
Callisto Secondary PC (400 PII 320 MB PC100) as auxillary sound input
Raid 1 (mirrored) bootable array
2 Seagate 60 GB Barracuda ATA IV
Seagate 40 GB Barracuda ATA IV
Lite-On DVD-RW
HP CD-RW
Linksys WIFI Router/Switch and cable modem
 
zeusenergy said:
Thanks! Only wish it had a 3+GHZ, 1-2 gigs, and an ATI 9800 + like most peeps in here!!!
who cares man honestly, anyone with a little bit of money can have that stuff, yours is unique, and more importantly looks expensive! :p
 
Jozone said:
who cares man honestly, anyone with a little bit of money can have that stuff, yours is unique, and more importantly looks expensive! :p
Thanks. I get your point, but its so hard to see everyone else with great frame rates in Doom 3 while I can't play it at 6 FPS! It's a matter of feeding the kids vs. getting the card I want....The wife wins money wars all the time :(
Hopefully others will think it looks good too and contract my services. :D
EDIT: Maybe you, since I'm in New Hampshire? I work REAL cheap!!!!!
 
It's about time someone impresses me.......i was getting so bored with the other nub cases :D

Great job, the look is fantastic. Definitely send that to MaximumPC for this next month, I'm positive you'll get rig of the month.


Edit: since you used glass on the top, how much did that cost and where'd you get it?
 
stupid but something I have been wondering. What can u mount your hardware to that you can put on the wall and not have a problem? Would plexi glass work at all?
 
Qtip42 said:
It's about time someone impresses me.......i was getting so bored with the other nub cases :D

Great job, the look is fantastic. Definitely send that to MaximumPC for this next month, I'm positive you'll get rig of the month.


Edit: since you used glass on the top, how much did that cost and where'd you get it?
Actually, I submitted it twice with no response, same with CPU magazine. I think my email is being filtered or something? I've talked with Russ Caslis (Millenium Falcon Mod) and he said Max PC responded right away with an automatic response, then wrote him within a couple days. I get no replies at all from either publication. Maybe it's time for me to use another email (Web-based), rather than my ISP's?
Thanks for the comments! I'm very happy that tech people are taking to my design. In person it's alot nicer, with the bubbles and sound meters going. Most people who come here arent tech savvy, so their response is more like "WTF is that thing?" But in the end they tell me it's cool and I should go into business building things like this for companies. I don't even care if I don't make much money doing it. The enjoyment I got from making this machine a reality was worth more than money can bring :D
The clear acrylic glass I got was $27 each at Home Depot, it is the thicker variety (3/16) and just so happens to fit Framed 8.0 perfectly although I didnt plan it that way. The bottom machine has the same glass, cut in half to fit. The acrylic I used for covering the drives is the more common 1/8" thick cheaper stuff, which I had to cut from a larger sheet as well. Painting acrylic from the inside is the best trick in the world since it tends to hide nearly all the ugly bits of your project!
 
Glow said:
stupid but something I have been wondering. What can u mount your hardware to that you can put on the wall and not have a problem? Would plexi glass work at all?
It sure would. But the easier way to go about it is to use a motherboard tray on a piece of plywood like I have done. Really the only thing you need to be careful of is that all the motherboard screw holes have a ground wire attached to them (thru the standoffs), or a metal tray behind with a ground wire, and it needs to be conductively attached to the power supply housing, even if its just one wire. The days of running motherboards outside of the case are numbered, since alot of manufacturers are now using the screw holes to provide the extra grounds the higher-powered boards need. You might get away with no grounds on some boards, and they might run fine, too. But other boards will not work properly and some can even be damaged.
A fully acrylic ATX case with a mounting board made of acrylic commonly sold now are very nice but I still haven't seen these cases come with ground straps for the motherboard screw holes. This worries me, since alot of people have no clue about motherboard electrical requirements!
Your ideas for a mounting board made from acrylic are cool. Maybe you could use acrylic on top of plywood for the same basic effect? In other words, you would have the plywood bearing the weight of your components and the glass would be on top of that with holes cut into it to provide a way of attaching parts to the plywood underneath? This might be more reasonable than using acrylic alone since you would need a very thick (1/4") piece to support all the weight. It would look nice and the acrylic could be painted from behind for a "mirrored" effect such as the front of my machine. The best part: Acrylic can be masked off any way you want and then painted for some pretty cool designs "built-in" to the acrylic mounting panel! I love this material....
 
I figured it'd be acrylic/plexi ....i mean it'd be the best alternative for something as large as that. I assume the watercooling makes it having to refill but besides that the case is alright. I dont understand why CPU or MaxPC dont get back to you, kinda odd.

If you're going into business (if there's demand), here's some suggestions.

- Streamline that thing (the flatter the better, no extra useless hardware, solid state cooling and/or a bunch of fans with filters). Replicating that look without water cooling is probably easy.

- The wiring mess hanging outside the case can probably be lessened with wireless stuff.

- Directional wiring. Find a way to make cables come out of all sides of that so if the person has a preference, they can choose which side they want the cables out (in case they're setting it up in a livingroom). Also create a ducting that can be painted to match the room it's in so the cables are hidden.


Thats all......once again, good work.
 
Qtip42 said:
Thats all......once again, good work.
Thanks, QTip!
My business would be based on services, not products. Each machine (or group of machines) would be individually made and built-into something. Semi-permanent installs are the name of the game, done similar to the work any other contractor would do- electrician, woodworker, A/V specialist. The difference would be that I could do all those things to one project....
Maybe then I could find others with the experience to do the same thing and make a larger company out of it, who knows? I'm dreaming, but my desire for this to happen will allow for my success. There is currently NO ONE doing this sort of thing right now, and I think with enough time and exposure- homeowners and businesses will begin to see the value these services will bring. Everyone wants the "next best thing" in these days of BLING. I'm guessing that my little niche will replace the current home theater installs that are done professionally.
EDIT: In other words, its not just PC hardware I'm talking about, it's anything electronic. My motto is "Why hide your technology when you can display it?"
 
Good work Zeus, after seeing this case me and my Fiance have decided to put one in our room.

Hopefully I can make it as nice as you! Any suggestions before I start making it? Anything I should know or be carefull about?

Also, Where did y6ou get those thumb screws?
 
CoRPS said:
Good work Zeus, after seeing this case me and my Fiance have decided to put one in our room.

Hopefully I can make it as nice as you! Any suggestions before I start making it? Anything I should know or be carefull about?

Also, Where did y6ou get those thumb screws?
First off, you should read ALL of the stuff in my website, it gives a lot of info on the design and construction of the machines. Heres the addy:
http://home.comcast.net/~zeusenergy/framed/framed.htm
Don't forget to click all the links, theres alot of them!
Besides the basics like "Be careful while cuttingwith power tools" and "dont electrocute yourself when working inside power supplies" I would have to say the motherboard grounding is the most important. But that can be easily dealt with by starting with a motherboard tray from a regular metal ATX case. Supporting the parts on a good mounting board is important also, and you will need to be sure that whatever screws you use to hang the finished product on the wall are going to work properly. Set them into the wall studs if possible, and remember that too many screws are never a bad thing! Try to make them accessable once you are done- or you will need to disassemble the entire machine while its on the wall to remove it.
Your woman will laugh when she hears where I got the thumbscrews- Home Depot. They are actually "drawer pulls" or in laymans terms, knobs for drawers!!!! Theres a huge selection at Home Depot, in all different shapes and sizes!
What you do is set the screw for the drawer pull with a matching nut into the standoff and tighten it down. Then you can use the original screws as alignment studs to place the front panel onto, without having to fight with it. Then the (female) drawer pulls thread onto those same studs.
The only other piece of advice I need to tell you is to buy all new components, since this machine will take a long time to build if all you have is spare time and simple tools. Otherwise, your machine will be down frequently and for long periods as you line up, measure, paint and finish everything. Consider this a good excuse to upgrade! Good luck!

BTW, good luck with Gamers Impulse... whatever that is. (Online multiplayer/clan services?)
 
Consider this a good excuse to upgrade! Good luck
lol, too bad I don't have money for a new system :p I'm planning on making the wall mount big enough for 2 PC's. one will be this old 633MHz PC I just got for free, the other side will be for whenever I do upgrade :D

One of the main things I'm giong to be doing different is having everything wireless.
Also, I will be building a control panel in my desk for switches. an on/Off switch for each computer, and CCFL switches. along with anything else I can think of. Anyway, again, thanks.
 
Ya those looked like dresser drawer knobs.......heh good technique though, whatever works.
 
BTW, good luck with Gamers Impulse... whatever that is. (Online multiplayer/clan services?)

Thanks, GamersImpulse will be like an information site. Giving the Gaming Communtiy all the info on new games, as well as news on online/lan tournament play. We will also be doing reviews on PC and Console games, Movies, Hardware, We will be doing interviews.
Basically just an informative site.

Edit: As you can probably tell, I won't be one of the writers. Muahaha. :p
 
CoRPS said:
lol, too bad I don't have money for a new system :p I'm planning on making the wall mount big enough for 2 PC's. one will be this old 633MHz PC I just got for free, the other side will be for whenever I do upgrade :D
Nice! Sounds good. The secondary machine in my setup is only a slot one PII so dont feel bad! I think I can see the idea you have in my mind.... Side by side machines rather than my idea of top and bottom? You might need to find an acrylic distributor in your area for a large enough section of acrylic if you want it in one piece. The stuff is real expensive IMO.... 36 x 30" was $27.
But working with an older hardware config like that you will not have to worry like I did with my main machine in pieces for weeks!
 
CoRPS said:
Thanks, GamersImpulse will be like an information site. Giving the Gaming Communtiy all the info on new games, as well as news on online/lan tournament play. We will also be doing reviews on PC and Console games, Movies, Hardware, We will be doing interviews.
Basically just an informative site.

Edit: As you can probably tell, I won't be one of the writers. Muahaha. :p
Nice- sounds like I might want to write for you on occasion! I'd be glad to. I love gaming, especially multiplayer FPS.
 
hey man,

just browsing through while at work :D -where else - noticed the link off the [H] .... that wall pc is awesome!
 
deluxe said:
hey man,

just browsing through while at work :D -where else - noticed the link off the [H] .... that wall pc is awesome!
Why thank you, mate!
Bet you noticed the Foster's mirror right off! Is Fosters actually like Budweiser is to the states?
 
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