RobotChild
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I'm fairly sure wired is, but can anyone clarify why?
Any articles on the subject?
Any articles on the subject?
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wired in almost all instances. Unless you start going to extremes (56k wired modem vs. 54Mbit WLAN).RobotChild said:I'm fairly sure wired is, but can anyone clarify why?
Any articles on the subject?
I've seen it; I suspect it's when the keys are being changed out, or when the connection is being initiated.Fark_Maniac said:how will wireless add up to 5ms? I ping my router from across my house, 1ms. What does a wired ping look like? <1ms. So let's just say it takes a half a milisecond for wired...that means you are adding about half to 1 ms by going wireless. I highly doubt you would notice that at all.
intiated or renegotiated? I don't think a person would be playing a game when a connection is first initiated.XOR != OR said:I've seen it; I suspect it's when the keys are being changed out, or when the connection is being initiated.
It spikes to 4-5ms, then back down to 1ms.
Wireless is subject to interference (causing lag or packetloss) under normal operation. A perfect wireless connection is indeed pretty much indistinguishable from a perfect wired connection for gaming, but the chances of getting a perfect wireless connection are much smaller.Fark_Maniac said:how will wireless add up to 5ms? I ping my router from across my house, 1ms. What does a wired ping look like? <1ms. So let's just say it takes a half a milisecond for wired...that means you are adding about half to 1 ms by going wireless. I highly doubt you would notice that at all.
I didn't say renegotiation; I said the keys were being changed out. Like the old key expires and a new one is generated and put in place.Fark_Maniac said:intiated or renegotiated? I don't think a person would be playing a game when a connection is first initiated.
If a person has renegotiation issues (Speeds go from 54 - 48 - 11 - 5 - 2 - 1), I don't believe they shoud be gaming. They should be fixing their equipment to be stable.
I'd say it is all dependent on the hardware used. I've had Intel 2200bg, Netgear WG311v2, and Linksys' USB 'G' NICs...and could not get a clean signal...even when touching the antenaes together on both a WRT54G v2.0 and a Netgear 'G' router. However, using a Belkin 'B' USB NIC and/or a Netgear WG311v1 and problems went away. I've never had a problem with 'b' speeds. So a solution would be to throttle down to 'b' mode. While gaming, you'll never use that much bandwidth with today's games. A bandaid? Yes. But give it a few years...'N' will be standardized and prices will come down.reyalp said:If going wired isn't a significant inconvenience, I would always use that for my main gaming rig. If running the wires is going to be a big hassle, you can certainly make wireless work, but you may spend a bit of time tweaking to get a solid signal, and/or suffer from occasional lag spikes.
I was assuming you were talking about renegotiation. Perhaps I'm missing something, but when does a key get "generated"? the OP never said what encryption was to be used, if any. If something like WEP, the key doesn't "generate"...it is just the key. Granted it may be refreshed, but that shouldn't happen more than once a day.XOR != OR said:I didn't say renegotiation; I said the keys were being changed out. Like the old key expires and a new one is generated and put in place.
Regardless, I don't really know why it spikes, but it does. I've seen it on multiple connections.
I had simply assumed encryption was being used, and something better than WEP. It'd be silly not to.Fark_Maniac said:I was assuming you were talking about renegotiation. Perhaps I'm missing something, but when does a key get "generated"? the OP never said what encryption was to be used, if any. If something like WEP, the key doesn't "generate"...it is just the key. Granted it may be refreshed, but that shouldn't happen more than once a day.
I wouldn't extrapolate too far based on that experience . In general wifi is subject to RF interference and physical obstructions. Those factors do not depend entirely on the equipment, and may be outside of your control.Fark_Maniac said:I'd say it is all dependent on the hardware used. I've had Intel 2200bg, Netgear WG311v2, and Linksys' USB 'G' NICs...and could not get a clean signal...even when touching the antenaes together on both a WRT54G v2.0 and a Netgear 'G' router. However, using a Belkin 'B' USB NIC and/or a Netgear WG311v1 and problems went away.