Firefox 66 to Block Audible Sound from Autoplay Video and Audio by Default

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  1. R_Type

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    #meltdownoftheweek
     
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    Good. Damn annoying.
     
  4. theBrownLlama

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    shouldn't you go blame those people who screwed it up in the first place , and not Mozilla.?
     
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    So much this
     
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  6. Zarathustra[H]

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    Personbally I demand four things from all software I use:

    - No cloud
    - No Data sharing
    - No AI automation
    - Minimal or no ads

    As long as the above three are met, we are going to be just fine. If not, there is going to be a problem.
     
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  7. Zarathustra[H]

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    Also,

    I played a little with Firefox last night. I disabled pocket, the built in password manager, all website notifications and all telemetry. I still need to do some more reading to see what else I need to block. I could go with Waterfox, but I want to take advantage of the features in the latest builds that are not in the ESR build, and I don't care at all about legacy plugins, so I guess I'll disable all the stuff I don't want on my own instead.

    One feature I really liked was the setting for tracker blocking. I set it to strict. There was a warning it might break some sites, but none of the ones I tested broke.

    It seems to do a very good job of defeating cross site tracking cookies and links to tracking services. I'm blocking stuff I didn't even know existed, like Pagefair, Blockthrough and a ton of Google statistics and tracking collecting sites.
     
  8. bman212121

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    [H] community is slacking...

    You can already turn off autoplay videos in Firefox. As of version 64 do this:

    Open about:config
    Search for media.autoplay.default

    Default: 0 (enable autoplay)

    Change this to 1 (disable autoplay)

    Now when you open a Youtube video you actually have to click on the video for it to start playing.
     
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    I don't understand why everybody stopped doing this. It used to be an option in FF and Edge. Then all of the sudden they both removed the option. Edge brought it back with the October update and I have been using it since. I haven't missed FF at all, but will probably switch back once Edge starts using Chromium.
     
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    You might add a math checker to what you need...;)
     
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  11. Zarathustra[H]

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    Disagree. Auto play of anything should never be used for any reason.

    I mean, MAYBE if the sole purpose of the link your are visiting is to display video or sound (like a Netflix link, or a direct Link to a YouTube video) but only maybe then. Even in this scenario, it isn't too much for the user to click once.

    Personally I'd like us to take all web design back to the 90's. Static HTML only, with no plugins, code or logic ever running client side.

    That - IMHO - is the very definition of good web design. Keep it simple, and never run code or scripts on a machine that isn't yours without making it extremely clear that the user explicitly wants you to.

    The simplest design is always the best design. And I'm talking simple from the perspective of complexity of implementation, not from the perspective of ease of use.

    And if you can't make your site work without running scripts or plugins on the visiting machine, maybe you shouldn't be doing whatever it is you are trying to do.

    I for one hope we can get to the point where something like "NoScript" is built into every single browser and cannot be disabled, forcing web designers to create simple sites that don't break when scripts are blocked if they want to ever be seen by anyone.
     
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    No go on Android, and flash blockers don't work for HTML5 autoplay videos.
     
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    Well the simple and obvious answer to that is to enable it back. Not that hard.
     
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    Finally you all can watch porn, at night, next to your other while they sleep and never have to worry - Did I turn my mute on?
     
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    Google, Amazon, Facebook, Akamai... those four are the ones I see the most, probably 90% of all sites have some affiliation with those four. Probably a little hyperbole, but I don't think its that far off.

    Firefox on its own is pretty good now at blocking a lot of content, I have it set to delete cookies and browsing history every-time I close. I could disable Pocket as well, but I like the occasional sciencey distractions. In the past I extensively used noscript, but its tricky because you enable the top layer website, and the list gets populated with 10 more objects from various sites that now require permission. Nowadays I only turn on noscript on certain sites where redirects and popups happen frequently. Don't know what the correlation is, but porn sites and religious sites are the worst offenders of redirects, popups, generally annoying adverts. The latter is the worst because of the malicious ads, porn sites tend to be strangely "virus" free. Firefox + Noscript is like a condom for internet viewing... nothing gets in or out unless you let it...

    I also disable the content blocking for [H], as this is one of the few sites I don't mind making money from "tracking" me.
     
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    I agree with a lot of what you said, I just hope it's a preference that's not only easily disabled, but something I can easily inform someone else how to disable.

    I know the set-in-stone Chrome implementation ruined internet radio for a few people.

    Also, some sites that were the worst abusers that need to be silenced figured out ways to make noise work, anyway.
     
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    I do not agree.

    There are ZERO use cases in which your website should waste my battery without my consent. Ask me first.

    Extra work for developers? Awesome - extra demand and opportunity to make money.
     
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  18. Zarathustra[H]

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    I donate via Patreon instead.

    I trust Kyle wouldn't abuse anything, but all these tracking services are third parties, and they can't be trusted :(
     
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    You can it's in the settings, but it's a global setting
     
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  20. Zarathustra[H]

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    So, I am piloting Firefox on my desktop at home and at work, and thus far the experience is mostly positive. There are a few things I don't like. Webkit/Blink seems to render things prettier and scroll smoother, but I can get used to that, Time will tell if I keep it.

    I wonder, how does Firefox perform on the mobile platform. Is it worth it on my Android devices as well?
     
  21. Zarathustra[H]

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    I have Firefox 66 now, and this wasn't as great as I had hoped.

    Videos still autoplay all over the place. I just want them gone, with the option to play them with a click. Guess I am going to have to keep using a plugin for that.

    How goddamned difficult is it for web designers to understand that they should never ever under any circumstance design sites with any audio or video acontent what so ever that automatically plays?
     
  22. Zarathustra[H]

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    Actually, I guess plugins are necessary. You just have to go into about:config and change variables.

    The one to change is "media.autoplay.default". The setting is counter-intuitive. By default it is set at 0, which allows videos to autoplay. Setting it to "1" does not. Every autoplay video I have tested thus far now gets a play icon overlay, and you have to click if you want to start it.

    Success!

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    Got it to work on the CBS site, but didn't work for YouTube why can't it just be simple and work like you'd expect everywhere. Oh well if works at all some places better than nothing.
     
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    Okay, so you're saying that now that I finally switched my blind mother to using Firefox instead of IE for safety, I should now have to switch her to Chrome because you personally (and a lot of the other apathetic [H] members) don't care? Way to tell yourself you're so important that any inconvenience on your part matters more than the people that are already inconvenienced more than you can possibly imagine. Pat yourself on the back, it's actually an accomplishment being so selfish.