Few Unrelated Folding related questions

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W.Feather

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Ive got a few questions that just popped in my head, sorry if they are idiotic

1) Will I need to install two sets of nVidea drivers in my rig for running my GTX260 and a 9800GTX? It is on a Crosshair III, will be run separately for folding

2)Can it be done in WINE, ive given up on trying to do it w/o WINE?, since it is two separate cards, for that manner will Linux let me have two seperate cards easily?

3)I'm working on getting a folding/server/LAN rig setup in due time(specs: Q9450, 4GB OCZ Platinum 800, the 9800GTX mentioned above, and other odds and ends), and my question for it is. By running a CoD 4 server(not very PC intensive, my Athlon 2800 ran one fine), along with F@H -smp client, will I take a performance hit with the CoD 4 server and have lag occur?

4)In reference to the above rig, would an Antec Earthwatts be efficient enough under full load for that system and maybe two 260's in sli(after i get a nice ATI/AMD GPU into my PC)



that and I figured out why my PPD is all screwed up....i get one good unit then a 6702 pops up....then a good one, then a 6702.....no wonder its wonky right now
 
1. If this is done in windows, installing the drivers will install it for both cards. It is no different then using a single card. I run a GTX 285 and 8800gt in windows 7 along with my Q9550 doing smp.
2. According to the guides you can do this through WINE, but windows is currently the fastest for folding and incredibly easy to setup.
3. It's doubtful that the folding client will slow down the server, you can always limit the client to a lower % once you figure the amount that the server requires just to be on the safer side.
4. Not sure on this one.
 
1) No.
2) Yes.
3) There shouldn't be any performance hit.
4) Which Earthwatts? There are models ranging from 380W to 750W.
 
thinking a 650w, should have enough juice to run it, 550w would be pushing it.....i'm looking for relative cheapness, but good build quality(which the Earthwatts typically have iirc) since this isnt for a primary rig, and doesnt need to look pretty
 
The 650W Earthwatts would be enough, though I would recommend an Antec Neo ECO 620W or Seasonic S12II 620W instead.
 
k, ive got something else now to look at....i'm pretty PSU dumb
 
Zero82z said:
The 650W Earthwatts would be enough, though I would recommend an Antec Neo ECO 620W or Seasonic S12II 620W instead.
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If you want something efficent you may need to go slightly higher or more expensive, www.80plus.org is a great site for seeing how efficent your chosen PSU's are.
Remember PSu's are most efficent when they are run at 50-65% load
 
I just started doing some folding on my new tablet(specs in sig), and HFM.Net see's it as a PentiumII/III.....evyerthing else is correct, but that....its getting 3kPPD estimate atm, drawing 40w...., should it matter that it sees it as a Pentium II/III?, yes there is the -smp flag....do I not need it since it is a dualcore? Would it run better w/o -smp?
 
To use more than one core you have to run the -smp flag. Be careful with the tablet since they don't have the best cooling system in the world.
 
i'm watching the temps, its just so i can get in on the top 5 ppd/watt :)

it is ~30 below TJMax right now, any higher and I will be stopping it, figured what else is good to run on it while it's charging
 
3K for 40W ain't going to make it on the top 5 ppd/W list.

HFM sees all of my machine as Pentium II/III, so that is fine.
 
musky said:
3K for 40W ain't going to make it on the top 5 ppd/W list.

HFM sees all of my machine as Pentium II/III, so that is fine.
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not yet, this is just at 40% and an estimate.....it will make it I hope, its got some serious power, lets just hope it goes higher ill be ending F@H there after one or two WU's
 
well my points on my X6 are at about 6k a day since i finished the last two 6702 WU's, though ive got 2 more coming up next......guess it doesnt want me to have a break......ive gotta get my old 9800GX in the rig to fold soon......not sure why my 260 is still getting only 5500 ppd right now, does that sound right for a stock clocked 260?
 
W.Feather said:
well my points on my X6 are at about 6k a day since i finished the last two 6702 WU's, though ive got 2 more coming up next......guess it doesnt want me to have a break......ive gotta get my old 9800GX in the rig to fold soon......not sure why my 260 is still getting only 5500 ppd right now, does that sound right for a stock clocked 260?
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No that its right at all, i don't have a 260 but my 250 gets 6-6.5k at stock so a 260 should be around 7.5-8k.

Which gpu client are you running GPU2 or GPU3?
 
2 i believe, i think both my CPU and GPU have been hit with harder WU's as of late(4 of the last 5 for CPU were 6702, as soon as I got a different one my PPD skyrocketed, even with the average building up, rather down, from 6702's)
 
W.Feather said:
2 i believe, i think both my CPU and GPU have been hit with harder WU's as of late(4 of the last 5 for CPU were 6702, as soon as I got a different one my PPD skyrocketed, even with the average building up, rather down, from 6702's)
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If you are running GPU2 then something is amiss, if you are running 3 the PPD looks about normal.

Check clocks speeds with evga precision or gpu-z and see what clocks everthing is running at then post them here so we can compare to known stock speeds

6701/02 WU bring my x6 to its knee's as well - unfortuneatly its normal behaviour
 
right now clocks on the 260:
576 core
1242 shader
999 mem

no OC for now, too dam hot in my room, even with AC, will be shooting the OC up for folding atleast this winter.


As for client, whats the easiest way to tell? HFM.NET only shows it as GPU
 
W.Feather said:
right now clocks on the 260:
576 core
1242 shader
999 mem

no OC for now, too dam hot in my room, even with AC, will be shooting the OC up for folding atleast this winter.


As for client, whats the easiest way to tell? HFM.NET only shows it as GPU
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Well your clocks are fine so lets look at client versions next.

Open up the log file, client version v6.23 is GPU2, v6.30r2 is GPU3, also look for the core name and version. You want Fahcore_11 and it should have 2 lines in the log that say
[19:34:03] Folding@Home GPU Core
[19:34:03] Version 1.31 (Tue Sep 15 10:57:42 PDT 2009)

If it says a number higher than 1.31 you are running GPU 3 WU which would explain the lower PPD
 
definatly GPU2, and FAHcore_11

poitns are up to 7k ppd from HFM.NEt, though my CPU ones just dropped to 5k on a 6056....isnt that an "easier" WU for the CPU? maybe a miscalculation? No way i havent hit 10 WU's, since in the last ~7 days ive done atleast 7(since I got HFM going), and it ran for 3 weeks before that....5k ppd for a Phenom II X6 1090T seems low....
 
W.Feather said:
definatly GPU2, and FAHcore_11

poitns are up to 7k ppd from HFM.NEt, though my CPU ones just dropped to 5k on a 6056....isnt that an "easier" WU for the CPU? maybe a miscalculation? No way i havent hit 10 WU's, since in the last ~7 days ive done atleast 7(since I got HFM going), and it ran for 3 weeks before that....5k ppd for a Phenom II X6 1090T seems low....
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OK see how your GPU client runs over the next couple days. As for the CPU definately on the low side, is this a dedicated machine or is a daily driver?
 
daily driver, but gets ~20 hours a day of pure folding.....only other thing when folding thats on is chat and chrome, with VLC everyonce and a while for light weight SD TV shows
 
W.Feather said:
daily driver, but gets ~20 hours a day of pure folding.....only other thing when folding thats on is chat and chrome, with VLC everyonce and a while for light weight SD TV shows
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Any background programs - AV checker, Hardware monitor, HFM.net/Fahmon running? - these all eat CPU cycles
 
HFM.Net, steam CoreTemp, Chrome, Avast(only actually scans 1nce a week, otherwise not doing anything, and skype
 
W.Feather said:
HFM.Net, steam CoreTemp, Chrome, Avast(only actually scans 1nce a week, otherwise not doing anything, and skype
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OK on mine i've noticed the following cause a PPD drop, try shutting all of them down apart from avast and see what happens to your PPD

HFM.net costs me 600-700PPD
CPUID HW monitor costs me ~700PPD
Zonealarm cost me ~500PPD
IE8 costs me ~300PPD

Thats 2.1k ppd, I know this is slightly different as mig rig is dedicated so i run nothing now - not even av software, HFM and CPUID HW monitor get fired up, looked at and shut back down again.
 
Nathan_P said:
OK on mine i've noticed the following cause a PPD drop, try shutting all of them down apart from avast and see what happens to your PPD

HFM.net costs me 600-700PPD
CPUID HW monitor costs me ~700PPD
Zonealarm cost me ~500PPD
IE8 costs me ~300PPD

Thats 2.1k ppd, I know this is slightly different as mig rig is dedicated so i run nothing now - not even av software, HFM and CPUID HW monitor get fired up, looked at and shut back down again.
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That's a substantial PPD loss for only a few apps. I'm really surprised by the amount you posted for HFM. I don't use HFM all that much, very rarely actually and prefer FahSpy. I wonder what that folding monitor consumes..
 
APOLLO said:
That's a substantial PPD loss for only a few apps. I'm really surprised by the amount you posted for HFM. I don't use HFM all that much, very rarely actually and prefer FahSpy. I wonder what that folding monitor consumes..
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Yeah, if i use the system for anything PPD tanks, after 15minutes of use HFM is usually reading 9.something k. At which point i usually switch my daily rig on. This is on an x6 so people with other CPU's will probably see different results. The hardware monitor one is the one that annoys me the most - i have to keep a close eye on temps when all my pu's are running other wise everything cooks. Not being able to look at past data doesn't show whether its a blip or not. GPU-z isn't as bad but it still all adds up.
 
well core temp is one of the most lightweight programs out there, not nearly as intensive as HWMonitor.....

i dont know figured those few programs wouldnt take it down to 5k points.....pretty substantial since it should have 10-12k....
 
i think HFM is reporting something wrong.....i'm getting a reported 450 poitns to what was yesterday was a 6702, now shown as a 6600.....for some reason all 6702 WU's are now showing as 6600 now in HFM.....any idea as to why?
 
k, thanks ill do that tomorrow(i'm getting off, just one last check over everything)
 
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