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Nice, more corporate welfare.
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The FCC's national broadband plan, released to reporters Monday, sets a goal of 1G bps (bits per second) service to anchor institutions such as hospitals, schools and government buildings in every U.S. community by 2020 and "affordable" 100M bps service available to 100 million U.S. homes during the same time frame.
But its a great honey pot... Just go and cry a little, talk about how hard it is to wire rural areas, get billions, do a little here and there, but don't get anything real done, rinse and repeat. Seriously, other than long cable runs wtf is so hard about ' rural' areas, jeez often there isn't even asphalt to deal with, just dig the trench and put back the gravel jeez.Meh, corruption is rampant and the money never goes where it's supposed to. That's corporatism at work, where the sheep will only listen to corporate-bought political parties and don't bother doing their own independent fact-checking and research. Enforced by a media that's bought by the same corporations.
This is a private companies idea..Jesus Christ.. always a new fucking tax. Stop wasting money on useless government projects that go nowhere. Cut the fat and you'll have the money you need.
You get your rated speed home users do not. You pay for support that is out to fix it in a couple hours instead of next week. Dedicated IP addresses. What it is worth is different for each but you are not just getting fucked with higher costs for no reason.
Yea it is a lot to ask a few dollars from businesses to help subsidize something that would cost farms and home users out there thousands of dollars to install lines and repeaters.
What is your business? I would like to know to avoid it as best I can.
Not saying it would be utilized correctly because the big networks have not done so in the past so why start now?
I think they overstate the price of rural rollouts. I know one guy who's Dad is a farmer. His dad invested in this co-op who is now rolling out fiber, and he's making good on the money invested in this co-op
Uhmm... aren't the people who live in those rural areas generally anti-socialism?
Lol, that's the reason I vote no on just about every proposition, bill, fee, etc my state tries to pass. It always goes in a general fund. No thanks. Unfortunately too many people buy into the false promises and there is zero accountability when the money is not spent as promised.Don't worry, guys, the industry will definitely use the money collected through this initiative for what it is meant for this time.
Corporations whose entire existence has been nothing but being in bed with government regulators to ensure that they, and only they, have exclusive rights to offer services to you. The telecom business and current Internet provider business is about as far away from capitalism you can get without having it 100% controlled and operated by the government.This is a private companies idea..
Im speechless.
My parents live 20 miles from any town of 500-1500 people and they have minimum 2Mb DSL service because the independent telco there (Brandenburg Telephone Company-BBTell) used the original payment to telcos to actually run fiber out into rural areas, and this is in nowhere Ky. All around them is AT&T and most of their customers are still stuck with dialup if they are more than a couple miles outside of towns with 15K people in them. If a little three county phone system can do it years ago, then AT&T could have too, instead they just took the money and blew it on other things to grow back into the monopoly the government broke up already and not fulfill the requirements they took on to receive that money in the first place. If the government would stand up to AT&T and make them do what they were supposed to do with the original money there would be no need for a new tax period.
And then write off the additional tax against their bottom line"just tax the evil businesses, consumers don't have to pay." As the costs get passed to the consumer.
Uhmm... aren't the people who live in those rural areas generally anti-socialism?
I have to pay school tax, and don't have any rugrats.
I don't see a lot of difference in supporting this, and a school tax.
The real trickle down economics."just tax the evil businesses, consumers don't have to pay." As the costs get passed to the consumer.
You get your rated speed home users do not. You pay for support that is out to fix it in a couple hours instead of next week. Dedicated IP addresses. What it is worth is different for each but you are not just getting fucked with higher costs for no reason.
Yea it is a lot to ask a few dollars from businesses to help subsidize something that would cost farms and home users out there thousands of dollars to install lines and repeaters.
What is your business? I would like to know to avoid it as best I can.
Not saying it would be utilized correctly because the big networks have not done so in the past so why start now?
"just tax the evil businesses, consumers don't have to pay." As the costs get passed to the consumer.
Businesses should pay their dues too.
I have to pay school tax, and don't have any rugrats.
I don't see a lot of difference in supporting this, and a school tax.
Well, supposedly schools educate the up and coming rugrats so that they might be able to support the rest of us; but with the shit show that are our schools these days I wonder how good a job they are really doing. But at least it's one of the noblest thoughts.
I don't need to pay for someone to surf the net. There are plenty of WISPs and other providers in rural America, and if a community wants internet bad enough staring your own WISP is even easier today with companies like Ubiquity and their AirFiber line to make long distance communications really cost effective.
Being from Vegas, I happened to be in town for Wispapalooza a few years back and there's a ton of federal grant money out there to help you ramp up and cover those capital expenses. So if you think your neighbors will pay for it, have at it!
Heck I have Verizon FIOS and Comcast available to me but I've been on the fence of trying to gather enough folks to make a WISP worth it here I the burbs.
Yeah, but you only pay school tax for rugrats in your area so your area is getting something out of it, if I pay 20 cents more on my *whatever* because some company was hit by a "usage tax" that gets pushed on the consumers all so someone in a rural area I never heard of can whack off to broadband porn than it really isn't helping "my area"I have to pay school tax, and don't have any rugrats.
I don't see a lot of difference in supporting this, and a school tax.
Aren't these typically the people always whining about bootstraps? Know what this sounds like? Sounds like not my problem.Doesn’t help the people out in the county.
Small rural county governments in the poorer areas can barely support basic essential services. Getting the infrastructure built for even The most basic internet just doesn’t happen. And with the terrible condition of even the copper landlines in many places, even dial-up is barely functional.
I don't see a problem with this. Businesses can now get treated like every residential customer. We paid huge amounts of taxes to build out rural broadband that never happened. Businesses should pay their dues too.
Yes. They should have to pay the same BS fees as everybody else did. Businesses don't deserve special treatment.Why, so that it would never happen again?
Yes. They should have to pay the same BS fees as everybody else did. Businesses don't deserve special treatment.
The elected govt. officials represent businesses more than they represent the average citizen. If businesses start getting fucked over, maybe things would change, in which case the average person would be an unintentional beneficiary. Kind of like an "enemy of my enemy" thing.Why, just so more money could be taken and not used as they said it would be? By the way, do you think it is the businesses itself that are going to ultimately pay this tax?
The elected govt. officials represent businesses more than they represent the average citizen. If businesses start getting fucked over, maybe things would change, in which case the average person would be an unintentional beneficiary. Kind of like an "enemy of my enemy" thing.