FCC May Vote Next Month on Change to Broadband Definition

[Derangel]

Those are provable items that actually happened. For you to deny reality because you hate the man personally makes you mentally ill.

You make pretty broad assumptions when all I said was that you drank too much of the kool-aid. There is little point in telling you why you're wrong about several (though not all) of those or of the importance of some. You're indoctrinated, there is no point debating with someone like that. Its more fun to poke at you.

 

[RayderR6]

Now this is the one people should be interested in, not that fake net neutrality crap. Personally I wish they would bump it to 30x10

If this is your comment, then you clearly don't understand what is happening here.

Apparently the FCC does not in believe actually working toward a goal.
Oh well, goal post is too high for you, lower it and give yourself a pat on the back for a job well done.

^ This guy gets it Vaulter98c.

 

[Mr.Scarface]

Trump Accomplishments in Year 1:

Jobs and the economy

• Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
• Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
• Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
• Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
• A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
• A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
• A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
• Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations

• Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
• Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
• Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
• Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
• Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.

Fair trade

• Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
• Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
• Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
• Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
• Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
• Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

Boosting U.S. energy dominance

• The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
• Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
• Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
• Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
• EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Protecting the U.S. homeland

• Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
• Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
• Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
• Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
• Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
• Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
• Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
• Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
• Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
• Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities

• Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
• Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
• Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
• Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
• Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability

• Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
• Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
• Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
• Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
• Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids

• First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
• His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
• The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
• Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
• Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
• The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
• On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

Protecting life

• In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
• Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
• Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.

Helping veterans

• Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
• Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
• Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
• Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
• Created a VA hotline.
• Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
• With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.

Promoting peace through strength

• Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
• Worked to increase defense spending.
• Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
• Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
• Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
• Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
• Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
• Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
• Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
• Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
• NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
• Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
• Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
• Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
• Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America

• Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
• Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
• Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests.
• He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.
• Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

But sure - in light of what some goober said on an internet forum, the heartland voters are going to REALLY feel betrayed now! /s

BULLSHIT. LOL. The only think Trump has accomplished is that Trillion Dollar giveaway to the Rich and Corporations, piss off most of the US allies, and put in place the tools to the destroy the environment. The economy? He can thank Obama. The ISIS defeat was a plan put in place UNDER Obama (Let the Iraqis fight for their country, US supports).

 

[viper1152012]

Koolaide

 

[Abhaxus]

Why, by pure definition broadband has nothing to do with throughput.

This is made up politicking garbage. Who cares.

If it's made up politicking garbage, why go out of their way to appear to dick over the average consumer? Repeatedly? The optics are terrible.

 

[LigTasm]

BULLSHIT. LOL. The only think Trump has accomplished is that Trillion Dollar giveaway to the Rich and Corporations, piss off most of the US allies, and put in place the tools to the destroy the environment. The economy? He can thank Obama. The ISIS defeat was a plan put in place UNDER Obama (Let the Iraqis fight for their country, US supports).

This is called delusion.

 

[capt_cope]

If you seriously don't agree with me you're clearly psychotic and need help. I pity you.

/s

That's one way to end an argument.

 

[RogueTadhg]

I love getting fucked over by the FCC and this government now every other month or more.

 

[homernoy]

Trump Accomplishments in Year 1:

Jobs and the economy

• Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
• Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
• Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
• Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
• A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
• A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
• A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
• Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations

• Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
• Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
• Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
• Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
• Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.

Fair trade

• Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
• Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
• Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
• Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
• Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
• Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

Boosting U.S. energy dominance

• The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
• Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
• Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
• Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
• EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Protecting the U.S. homeland

• Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
• Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
• Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
• Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
• Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
• Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
• Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
• Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
• Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
• Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities

• Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
• Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
• Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
• Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
• Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability

• Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
• Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
• Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
• Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
• Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids

• First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
• His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
• The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
• Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
• Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
• The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
• On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

Protecting life

• In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
• Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
• Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.

Helping veterans

• Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
• Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
• Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
• Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
• Created a VA hotline.
• Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
• With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.

Promoting peace through strength

• Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
• Worked to increase defense spending.
• Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
• Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
• Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
• Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
• Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
• Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
• Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
• Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
• NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
• Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
• Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
• Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
• Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America

• Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
• Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
• Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests.
• He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.
• Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

But sure - in light of what some goober said on an internet forum, the heartland voters are going to REALLY feel betrayed now! /s

Nothing worse than a cherry picking Trump apologist. Nothing. If I had the entire weekend with nothing to do(which I don't), I would give a 50 page rebuttal showing list of how Trump is fucking YOU over, as well as every other American. Some of those points I would list, are ironically included in your wall of text.

 

[Tactlesss]

Trump Accomplishments in Year 1:

Jobs and the economy

• Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
• Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
• Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
• A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
• A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
• A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
• Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulation

Fair trade

• Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
• Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.

Boosting U.S. energy dominance

• The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.

Protecting the U.S. homeland

• Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
• Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
• Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
• Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
• Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
• Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities

• Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
• Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
• Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
• Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
• Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability

• Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
• Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids

• First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
• His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
• The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
• Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
• The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
• On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

Helping veterans

• Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
• Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
• Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
• Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
• Created a VA hotline.
• Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
• With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.

Promoting peace through strength

• Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
• Worked to increase defense spending.
• Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
• Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
• Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
• Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
• Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
• Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
• Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America

• Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders
• He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.
• Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

But sure - in light of what some goober said on an internet forum, the heartland voters are going to REALLY feel betrayed now! /s

I fixed a few things as you kept listing failures and blatant rhetoric

 

[tetris42]

Nothing worse than a cherry picking Trump apologist. Nothing. If I had the entire weekend with nothing to do(which I don't), I would give a 50 page rebuttal showing list of how Trump is fucking YOU over, as well as every other American. Some of those points I would list, are ironically included in your wall of text.

I particularly like how getting rid of environmental regulations is spun as a positive.

 

[w00t69]

Trump Accomplishments in Year 1:

Jobs and the economy

• Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
• Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
• Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
• Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
• A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
• A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
• A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
• Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations

• Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
• Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
• Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
• Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
• Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.

Fair trade

• Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
• Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
• Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
• Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
• Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
• Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

Boosting U.S. energy dominance

• The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
• Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
• Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
• Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
• EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Protecting the U.S. homeland

• Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
• Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
• Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
• Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
• Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
• Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
• Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
• Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
• Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
• Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities

• Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
• Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
• Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
• Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
• Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability

• Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
• Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
• Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
• Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
• Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids

• First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
• His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
• The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
• Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
• Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
• The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
• On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

Protecting life

• In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
• Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
• Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.

Helping veterans

• Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
• Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
• Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
• Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
• Created a VA hotline.
• Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
• With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.

Promoting peace through strength

• Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
• Worked to increase defense spending.
• Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
• Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
• Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
• Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
• Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
• Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
• Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
• Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
• NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
• Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
• Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
• Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
• Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America

• Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
• Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
• Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests.
• He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.
• Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

But sure - in light of what some goober said on an internet forum, the heartland voters are going to REALLY feel betrayed now! /s

found the \pol\ participant guys! Even a million good things isn't a reason to fuck over the internet access for the entire country or to put consumers in a worse position than they were before. I think the fact that you respond to something that isn't good by highlighting positives really shows where your mindset is before any other factors.

 

[vr.]

No one was actually doing anymore than pretending to get broadband to rural areas anyways.

Sure I would be upset if there was an order to get broadband to rural areas and we were actually doing it. As it is, the requirement has been largely ignored and nothing is really changing other than some wording in some legislation that was being ignored anyway.

Somebody is trying...
http://about.att.com/story/project_airgig_trials_georgia.html

 

[MavericK]

Well that escalated quickly.

They are all pretty terrible people, but they don't need to die necessarily. Maybe banishment to the outlands?

 

[sfsuphysics]

Well AT&T just got a 10 Gajillion dollar contract to supply every state in the US with broadband for emergencies so of course they're going to lower it to what AT&T can do.

 

[NeoNemesis]

They are all pretty terrible people, but they don't need to die necessarily. Maybe banishment to the outlands?

Good old fashion shunning would be best. Nothing would hurt them more than pretending they don't exist. Bunch of old windbags.

 

[RareAir23]

Anosh's post on page 1 from Reddit was the most eye opening thing of any of this. I have been following Net Neutrality's battle and am pro-Net Neutrality as well. Reason being is if you work a job in IT (I am a Help Desk Tech but also the bridge on my team between us and our company's ServerAdmin team and Network Admin teams) in any company you're going to have a far better idea what NN means and what it does by default than the folk who don't work in the IT industry. That 5-step plan Anosh put up is just atrocious but there's another reason Anosh's plan didn't mention on why this vote is so important. It goes to the Step 6! The Step 6 Anosh didn't mention. I want to give you an idea of what Step 6 is. It goes a little with Step 5 where they are going to make Internet data plans only 10-20GB per user on COX, Comcast, Charter, Verizon, AT&T, etc. It's so much more than that though. And this Step 6 I'm surprised nobody's brought up. Here's Step 6: to primarily describe this step go fetch your latest cable/satellite bill before you read further. Got it? Okay, look at it, look at how it's structured, how the cable and satellite plans are put together. Let's break it down! Below (this is an example only)...

Basic broadcast package (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, PBS, a small package of cable channels on basic package: $68
Basic cable beyond broadcast: $25
Extended cable package (non-Sports outside of basic package [ESPN, Fox Sports], non-Cable News): $22.50
Ultra Extended package: $25
Sports package (MLB Network, NFL Network, NBA TV, NHL Network, CBS Sports Network, NBC Sports Network, Fox Sports regional, Comcast SportsNet, Spectrum SportsNet, ROOT Sports): $33
HBO package: $15
Cinemax package: $15
Showtime package: $15
Starz package: $20
Epix package: $10
Cable box fee: $8
Transmission fee: $5
4K TV transmission fee: $10
PPV's bought: (insert price here but it's gonna be expensive)

You all know the rest. Now imagine if the ISP's did what you see above with cable bills with the Internet. It would likely look a lot like this (disclaimer: this is for example purposes only):

Basic internet package (Web browsing, e-mail, online shopping): $65
Standard Basic Streaming video package (YouTube, Vimeo): $25
Streaming Sports package (ESPN, WWE Network, FOX Sports, 120 Sports): $35
Streaming Movie/TV package (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Comic Con HQ, Disney Future Streaming service): $35
Streaming Gaming package (Twitch, YouTube Gaming): $20
Online Gaming Service package 1 (Steam, Origin, Battle.Net, UPlay): $30
Online Gaming Service package 2 (MMO's including World of WarCraft, Guild Wars, Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Planetside 2, Lord of the Rings Online, Black Desert Online): $25
Online Gaming Service package 3 (MOBA's like League of Legends): $12
Online Gaming Service package 4 (XBOX Live, PSN, Nintendo Switch Online): $30
Broadcast TV Streaming package (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW streaming apps): $24
Cable TV Streaming package: (SyFy, TNT, AMC, FX, TBS, Comedy Central, USA Network streaming apps as examples): $22
Pay TV Streaming package (HBO Go, Starz streaming, Cinemax streaming, etc.): $40
Adult Streaming package: $22
Amazon Alexa, Google Home package fee: $18
Cable modem rental fee: $15
Router rental fee (I'll explain this in a minute): $12

Before I continue...the Router rental fee. Those fancy, high end routers we've been running in our homes for so long? Gone. ISP's will order them taken off their modems in our homes and they'll be replaced with what they want in there. What will do their bidding. Ajit Pai himself will give them full freedom and authority to enact, enforce, and fully indoctrinate the router part. Now, if you follow this bill I wrote up as an example if you pay these fees and a bill that looks like this every month you will get the speeds you have now for these services. If you don't? 10 down/1 up speed only for any and all services you don't pay for in the packages that you use! Also, ISP will then implement part 2 of Step 6 and pull a double whammy! They will not only charge this kind of bill every month to us but every ISP is going to have reps visit all these services HQ's and tell them, "You want to be in any of our packages for our new Internet bills? The price starts in the tens of millions of dollars starting at..." Ajit Pai by the time he is done will give the ISP's the penultimate money making situation that they've always wanted and again by the laws of the government give them full freedom and authority to implement it. That's why Ajit wants to revoke the FCC's authority in all of this and give it to the FTC. Because they will be next to powerless to do anything. Ajit when you break him down is a Bureaucrat, a Politician, a Lawyer and a Corporate Stooge/Shill for all major ISP's. He's where he is at the FCC because...the ISP's want him there! He is there to do their bidding and their bidding only. In other words, he's in it for ISP's, not us. To finish, a person like Ajit should not be running the FCC. The person I described a couple of sentences back should not be making decisions involving something like Net Neutrality and how the Internet runs. I'd prefer it handled by highly skilled and non-biased computer and network engineers who understand the process of how computers and networks that include the Internet really work and how best to implement them that serves everyone properly and equally! That's my thoughts on this. Out!

 

[Derangel]

Good old fashion shunning would be best. Nothing would hurt them more than pretending they don't exist. Bunch of old windbags.

They won't care about that. The only way to hurt them would be to fine them for every penny they have. The only thing they care about is their bank account.

 

[Despotes]

I thought with the repeal of Net "Neutrality" Armageddon would be upon us? Or maybe this will or that will or...lol

 

[Uvaman2]

Anosh's post on page 1 from Reddit was the most eye opening thing of any of this. I have been following Net Neutrality's battle and am pro-Net Neutrality as well. Reason being is if you work a job in IT (I am a Help Desk Tech but also the bridge on my team between us and our company's ServerAdmin team and Network Admin teams) in any company you're going to have a far better idea what NN means and what it does by default than the folk who don't work in the IT industry. That 5-step plan Anosh put up is just atrocious but there's another reason Anosh's plan didn't mention on why this vote is so important. It goes to the Step 6! The Step 6 Anosh didn't mention. I want to give you an idea of what Step 6 is. It goes a little with Step 5 where they are going to make Internet data plans only 10-20GB per user on COX, Comcast, Charter, Verizon, AT&T, etc. It's so much more than that though. And this Step 6 I'm surprised nobody's brought up. Here's Step 6: to primarily describe this step go fetch your latest cable/satellite bill before you read further. Got it? Okay, look at it, look at how it's structured, how the cable and satellite plans are put together. Let's break it down! Below (this is an example only)...

Basic broadcast package (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, PBS, a small package of cable channels on basic package: $68
Basic cable beyond broadcast: $25
Extended cable package (non-Sports outside of basic package [ESPN, Fox Sports], non-Cable News): $22.50
Ultra Extended package: $25
Sports package (MLB Network, NFL Network, NBA TV, NHL Network, CBS Sports Network, NBC Sports Network, Fox Sports regional, Comcast SportsNet, Spectrum SportsNet, ROOT Sports): $33
HBO package: $15
Cinemax package: $15
Showtime package: $15
Starz package: $20
Epix package: $10
Cable box fee: $8
Transmission fee: $5
4K TV transmission fee: $10
PPV's bought: (insert price here but it's gonna be expensive)

You all know the rest. Now imagine if the ISP's did what you see above with cable bills with the Internet. It would likely look a lot like this (disclaimer: this is for example purposes only):

Basic internet package (Web browsing, e-mail, online shopping): $65
Standard Basic Streaming video package (YouTube, Vimeo): $25
Streaming Sports package (ESPN, WWE Network, FOX Sports, 120 Sports): $35
Streaming Movie/TV package (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Comic Con HQ, Disney Future Streaming service): $35
Streaming Gaming package (Twitch, YouTube Gaming): $20
Online Gaming Service package 1 (Steam, Origin, Battle.Net, UPlay): $30
Online Gaming Service package 2 (MMO's including World of WarCraft, Guild Wars, Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Planetside 2, Lord of the Rings Online, Black Desert Online): $25
Online Gaming Service package 3 (MOBA's like League of Legends): $12
Online Gaming Service package 4 (XBOX Live, PSN, Nintendo Switch Online): $30
Broadcast TV Streaming package (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW streaming apps): $24
Cable TV Streaming package: (SyFy, TNT, AMC, FX, TBS, Comedy Central, USA Network streaming apps as examples): $22
Pay TV Streaming package (HBO Go, Starz streaming, Cinemax streaming, etc.): $40
Adult Streaming package: $22
Amazon Alexa, Google Home package fee: $18
Cable modem rental fee: $15
Router rental fee (I'll explain this in a minute): $12

Before I continue...the Router rental fee. Those fancy, high end routers we've been running in our homes for so long? Gone. ISP's will order them taken off their modems in our homes and they'll be replaced with what they want in there. What will do their bidding. Ajit Pai himself will give them full freedom and authority to enact, enforce, and fully indoctrinate the router part. Now, if you follow this bill I wrote up as an example if you pay these fees and a bill that looks like this every month you will get the speeds you have now for these services. If you don't? 10 down/1 up speed only for any and all services you don't pay for in the packages that you use! Also, ISP will then implement part 2 of Step 6 and pull a double whammy! They will not only charge this kind of bill every month to us but every ISP is going to have reps visit all these services HQ's and tell them, "You want to be in any of our packages for our new Internet bills? The price starts in the tens of millions of dollars starting at..." Ajit Pai by the time he is done will give the ISP's the penultimate money making situation that they've always wanted and again by the laws of the government give them full freedom and authority to implement it. That's why Ajit wants to revoke the FCC's authority in all of this and give it to the FTC. Because they will be next to powerless to do anything. Ajit when you break him down is a Bureaucrat, a Politician, a Lawyer and a Corporate Stooge/Shill for all major ISP's. He's where he is at the FCC because...the ISP's want him there! He is there to do their bidding and their bidding only. In other words, he's in it for ISP's, not us. To finish, a person like Ajit should not be running the FCC. The person I described a couple of sentences back should not be making decisions involving something like Net Neutrality and how the Internet runs. I'd prefer it handled by highly skilled and non-biased computer and network engineers who understand the process of how computers and networks that include the Internet really work and how best to implement them that serves everyone properly and equally! That's my thoughts on this. Out!

Anyone thinking this is 'out there', I feel for you. It will be however, a slowish process, with ISPs having 'issues' due to 'so much demand from heavy users'. How they are going to roll out things will be like caps, but a bit faster... Caps with measurements that aren't even government approved, with massive surcharges that don't even reflect the cost of the first service allotment and shit like that. How the hell is that even legal who knows. I mean they just handed the keys to the internet gates to ISPs
. Google and any other big IT service better be buying their own lube. Their only choice is creating a consortium, and coming up with a nationwide isp, probably wireless since apparently wired is just too freaking hard.

 

[tikiman2012]

Keep the rust belt down FCC, we don't need modern jobs there.

The rust belt gets what they voted for. This is what they wanted.

 

[Belfaborac]

Pardon the somewhat OT questions, but are the prices listed above by RareAir23 fairly accurate and if so, what kind of speed will that Basic Internet package typically give you?

The list sounds fairly dreadful, given that I pay ~120/month for around 100 TV channels and 500/500 internet in a country which is supposed to be among the world's most expensive. And where no provider has offered a speed as slow as 25/4, let alone 10/1, for years, be it mobile or landline.

 

[Verge]

If it's made up politicking garbage, why go out of their way to appear to dick over the average consumer? Repeatedly? The optics are terrible.

How does this affect any consumer?

 

[Mr.Scarface]

Anosh's post on page 1 from Reddit was the most eye opening thing of any of this. I have been following Net Neutrality's battle and am pro-Net Neutrality as well. Reason being is if you work a job in IT (I am a Help Desk Tech but also the bridge on my team between us and our company's ServerAdmin team and Network Admin teams) in any company you're going to have a far better idea what NN means and what it does by default than the folk who don't work in the IT industry. That 5-step plan Anosh put up is just atrocious but there's another reason Anosh's plan didn't mention on why this vote is so important. It goes to the Step 6! The Step 6 Anosh didn't mention. I want to give you an idea of what Step 6 is. It goes a little with Step 5 where they are going to make Internet data plans only 10-20GB per user on COX, Comcast, Charter, Verizon, AT&T, etc. It's so much more than that though. And this Step 6 I'm surprised nobody's brought up. Here's Step 6: to primarily describe this step go fetch your latest cable/satellite bill before you read further. Got it? Okay, look at it, look at how it's structured, how the cable and satellite plans are put together. Let's break it down! Below (this is an example only)...

Basic broadcast package (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, PBS, a small package of cable channels on basic package: $68
Basic cable beyond broadcast: $25
Extended cable package (non-Sports outside of basic package [ESPN, Fox Sports], non-Cable News): $22.50
Ultra Extended package: $25
Sports package (MLB Network, NFL Network, NBA TV, NHL Network, CBS Sports Network, NBC Sports Network, Fox Sports regional, Comcast SportsNet, Spectrum SportsNet, ROOT Sports): $33
HBO package: $15
Cinemax package: $15
Showtime package: $15
Starz package: $20
Epix package: $10
Cable box fee: $8
Transmission fee: $5
4K TV transmission fee: $10
PPV's bought: (insert price here but it's gonna be expensive)

You all know the rest. Now imagine if the ISP's did what you see above with cable bills with the Internet. It would likely look a lot like this (disclaimer: this is for example purposes only):

Basic internet package (Web browsing, e-mail, online shopping): $65
Standard Basic Streaming video package (YouTube, Vimeo): $25
Streaming Sports package (ESPN, WWE Network, FOX Sports, 120 Sports): $35
Streaming Movie/TV package (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Comic Con HQ, Disney Future Streaming service): $35
Streaming Gaming package (Twitch, YouTube Gaming): $20
Online Gaming Service package 1 (Steam, Origin, Battle.Net, UPlay): $30
Online Gaming Service package 2 (MMO's including World of WarCraft, Guild Wars, Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Planetside 2, Lord of the Rings Online, Black Desert Online): $25
Online Gaming Service package 3 (MOBA's like League of Legends): $12
Online Gaming Service package 4 (XBOX Live, PSN, Nintendo Switch Online): $30
Broadcast TV Streaming package (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW streaming apps): $24
Cable TV Streaming package: (SyFy, TNT, AMC, FX, TBS, Comedy Central, USA Network streaming apps as examples): $22
Pay TV Streaming package (HBO Go, Starz streaming, Cinemax streaming, etc.): $40
Adult Streaming package: $22
Amazon Alexa, Google Home package fee: $18
Cable modem rental fee: $15
Router rental fee (I'll explain this in a minute): $12

Before I continue...the Router rental fee. Those fancy, high end routers we've been running in our homes for so long? Gone. ISP's will order them taken off their modems in our homes and they'll be replaced with what they want in there. What will do their bidding. Ajit Pai himself will give them full freedom and authority to enact, enforce, and fully indoctrinate the router part. Now, if you follow this bill I wrote up as an example if you pay these fees and a bill that looks like this every month you will get the speeds you have now for these services. If you don't? 10 down/1 up speed only for any and all services you don't pay for in the packages that you use! Also, ISP will then implement part 2 of Step 6 and pull a double whammy! They will not only charge this kind of bill every month to us but every ISP is going to have reps visit all these services HQ's and tell them, "You want to be in any of our packages for our new Internet bills? The price starts in the tens of millions of dollars starting at..." Ajit Pai by the time he is done will give the ISP's the penultimate money making situation that they've always wanted and again by the laws of the government give them full freedom and authority to implement it. That's why Ajit wants to revoke the FCC's authority in all of this and give it to the FTC. Because they will be next to powerless to do anything. Ajit when you break him down is a Bureaucrat, a Politician, a Lawyer and a Corporate Stooge/Shill for all major ISP's. He's where he is at the FCC because...the ISP's want him there! He is there to do their bidding and their bidding only. In other words, he's in it for ISP's, not us. To finish, a person like Ajit should not be running the FCC. The person I described a couple of sentences back should not be making decisions involving something like Net Neutrality and how the Internet runs. I'd prefer it handled by highly skilled and non-biased computer and network engineers who understand the process of how computers and networks that include the Internet really work and how best to implement them that serves everyone properly and equally! That's my thoughts on this. Out!

You want to stop this? I suggest you vote for Democrats in November. If you the Democrats take both Houses of Congress, this won't happen. If they take atleast 1, it will harder for the Republicans to keep pushing this bullshit.

 

[Mr.Scarface]

Pardon the somewhat OT questions, but are the prices listed above by RareAir23 fairly accurate and if so, what kind of speed will that Basic Internet package typically give you?

The list sounds fairly dreadful, given that I pay ~120/month for around 100 TV channels and 500/500 internet in a country which is supposed to be among the world's most expensive. And where no provider has offered a speed as slow as 25/4, let alone 10/1, for years, be it mobile or landline.

They won't implement all 5 steps if you are paying for cable TV. This

I thought with the repeal of Net "Neutrality" Armageddon would be upon us? Or maybe this will or that will or...lol

Just a piece of the puzzle. NN allows them to start the road to Armageddon.

 

[tangoseal]

The rust belt gets what they voted for. This is what they wanted.

Shut yout pie hole. No one voted for any of shit. Including the original Obama pusheD NN which we had ZERO vote on or the FCC had the constitutional authority to enact. The fcc just removed an unconstitutional power given to themselves by themselves. Stop with the spreading of bullshit like this.

 

[BloodyIron]

What's the point of an FCC vote if they're just going to ignore the public again?

 

[aaronspink]

Shut yout pie hole. No one voted for any of shit. Including the original Obama pusheD NN which we had ZERO vote on or the FCC had the constitutional authority to enact. The fcc just removed an unconstitutional power given to themselves by themselves. Stop with the spreading of bullshit like this.

Oh BS. The FCC had 100% authority to enact NN via the 2015 order as confirmed by The Executive branch, Congress, and the Courts. Literally every branch of government. The FCC authority comes via the Commerce Clause and delegated to it by an act of congress signed by the president. And the courts have on multiple occasions confirmed that delegation and the FCC's authority to reclassify services. Your comment is nothing but pure ignorance of the US Constitution, US case law, and US Laws.

 

[rudy]

They need to abolish the definition all together consumers just need to learn how to think about data in terms of numbers and quality not labels.

 

[lcpiper]

Sadly I am still at about 1/8 broadband spec since 1.5Mb down is all that is available here 5 miles out of the city and two houses past me is only dialup.



I don't have to look up 5G, since 4G is barely available in my area and if I am lucky I would be able to connect to 3G, which is why I still just use a plain flip phone.

OK, I think I get it. You don't have any faith that the President pushing deployment of 5G nationwide will change your situation any. Why should you right?

And that he tied this need to national security, that doesn't matter either. So to be clear, I understand your position and were I in your position I would probably have the exact same attitude.

 

[lcpiper]

So people in rural areas are all poor or only want to get edicated? Gee how about access to streaming HD and gosh 4k, or being able to download large games (or hell even medium sized games)? Or put it another way why should anyone anywhere want more than 10 down? But what would I know I'm just poor and uneducated because I live in a rural area.

Umm, then move.

No really, It would be lovely if everyone could have everything thy want, even if it costs other people for you to get it .... or you could accept reality and just go do what you gota do to get what you need.

Nobody is going to get an Ivy League education without going to an Ivy League school. You can't do government IT work without a security clearance so you can't have your clearance and keep smoking your dope. You can't do Defense Contract IT work without a Security Plus certification from Comptia or it's accepted equivalent. And you are not going to magically make deployment of high speed internet cheaper and profitable in low population areas of the country .... because if it was profitable then they would be selling it. Sorry, it's just the way it is.

 

[WhoMe]

Umm, then move.

No really, It would be lovely if everyone could have everything thy want, even if it costs other people for you to get it .... or you could accept reality and just go do what you gota do to get what you need.

Nobody is going to get an Ivy League education without going to an Ivy League school. You can't do government IT work without a security clearance so you can't have your clearance and keep smoking your dope. You can't do Defense Contract IT work without a Security Plus certification from Comptia or it's accepted equivalent. And you are not going to magically make deployment of high speed internet cheaper and profitable in low population areas of the country .... because if it was profitable then they would be selling it. Sorry, it's just the way it is.

Go eff yourself. I've lived here 22 years and it's for my health.

 

[otherweeb]

I thought with the repeal of Net "Neutrality" Armageddon would be upon us? Or maybe this will or that will or...lol

Baby steps padwan, Rome wasn't burned in a day...

 

[lcpiper]

Not hard to connect at least a few of the dots.

1. FCC chairman is ex legal rep for wireless company-hhhmmm what possible conflict of interests?!?
............................................

Being an "ex-sombody" isn't a conflict of interest. I'd never get another job if the other contracting companies all said "You used to work for the Army, our customer, you have a conflict of interest, you used to work for our competition, you have a conflict of interest"

Somehow you guys see this, but completely fail to accept that Pai, and everyone else just like him, are best served by doing a good job at what they are currently doing. Or don't you think being the head of the FCC pays well enough?

This might be accurate, I can't swear by it.
https://www.federalpay.org/employees/federal-communications-commission/pai-ajit-v

Ajit V. Pai is a EX-04 under the executive pay payscale.

This is what was listed for Thomas Wheeler, for his Base Pay;
https://www.federalpay.org/employees/federal-communications-commission/wheeler-thomas-e

$165,000 seems normal and I would expect the same for Ajit Pai. Keep in mind this doesn't include any special pays or other compensatory pays which could really add up. Also, keep in mind that being the Chainman of the FCC sounds really important but it's not on any kind of equivalency with say the CEO of Verizon or anything like that. It's a government job, you'll make money, you're not supposed to get rich doing it. And it might help you get a good job in the civilian market later but there are no guarantees.

 

[lcpiper]

Go eff yourself. I've lived here 22 years and it's for my health.

It's your problem, not the world's.

Sounds hard but that's how it is.

EDITED: BTW, while I sound all heartless and uncaring, may I ask where you live, and what the health issue is (in the least detailed way). I'm not trying to pry into your deeply personal life and I am not looking for a soft spot to plant the dagger.

I'm not a closet philanthropist with millions free that I secretly help out troubled people with. But if I know of something that could help you out, I would gladly tell you about it.

 

[WhoMe]

Yeah you're going to love it when every rural person moves into the cities, good luck eating. This is the kind of "I have it so tough to you" attitude that ignores economics and a whole host of other issues. Anyway enough said I've dealt with this attitude before and we will never agree.

 

[lcpiper]

No one was actually doing anymore than pretending to get broadband to rural areas anyways.

Sure I would be upset if there was an order to get broadband to rural areas and we were actually doing it. As it is, the requirement has been largely ignored and nothing is really changing other than some wording in some legislation that was being ignored anyway.

https://arstechnica.com/information...isps-bring-wireless-internet-to-12-us-states/

Microsoft pointed to an FCC research finding that 34 million Americans lack access to broadband with at least 25Mbps download and 3Mbps upload speeds. According to the FCC, 23.4 million of those live in rural areas.

My wife and I stream, game, and do just fine with 50 mbps up and 6 mbps down. In fact, I am about to call Cox and argue with them over my bill cause I think they are charging me too much for what they are giving me. But the thing is, although I am going to try and beat them out of 100 mbps for my existing monthly rate, it won't make anything faster for the most part. I won't get a better ping to the game servers, I won't stream any better. All that will happen is that occasional game or update will run a good bit faster but the rest of the time my daily internet experience will be unchanged. I just think it will be easier to beat them out of 100 mbps then to beat them out of my paying less each month.

But continuing, out for 325 million Americans, 34 million don't get at least 25 mbps up and 3 down.
This is according to another Ars article here from 2016;
https://arstechnica.com/information...-its-annual-broadband-deployment-test-at-fcc/

In this other article it says;

A law passed by Congress in 1996 requires the FCC to "determine whether advanced telecommunications capability is being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion" and take immediate action to speed deployment if the answer is negative. Even though the number of Americans who cannot access broadband has been cut in half since 2012, the answer is still negative because the law says broadband must be deployed to all Americans, FCC officials told Ars.

Moreover, there are big access problems in rural areas.

"A persistent urban-rural digital divide has left 39 percent of the rural population without access to fixed broadband," the FCC fact sheet said. "By comparison, only 4 percent living in urban areas lack access."

So if I take these numbers at face value, back in 2012 it used to be 68 million who were sucking out. But you know, it's the percentages that bother me in this cause we all know that the percentages of the population living in rural America and Urban America are different. So 39 percent of Rural America is without along with 4% of Urban America. What do those numbers ball park to?

Now this data is a little old, but we only need a ball park figure here so;
https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/03/us-urban-population-what-does-urban-really-mean/1589/

America has grown even more urban. According to new numbers just released from the U.S. Census Bureau, 80.7 percent of the U.S. population lived in urban areas as of the 2010 Census

So what does 80.7% come to?
How about 262,275,000 people live in Urban America and what is 4% ? This comes to 10,491,000 Urbanites without decent broadband.

So let's get some numbers for the country folk.

I'm going to cheat a little and just subtract the Urban people from the total, = 62,725,000 living in the country, and 39% struggle with Netflix so that comes to 24.462,750 country folks.

10.5 million Urban, 24.5 million Rural, ball park.

Urban populations are growing, rural are shrinking, and the total number of people without halved from 2012 until 2016. The more that move from the country to the city, the faster these numbers shift.

Now I know this sucks if you are in this 34 million pool of have-nots. But as long as we are talking about 11% of the country, a shrinking 34 million vs a growing total of 325 million, this is a 11% issue getting smaller and a 99% getting better.

You have to ask yourself if this is a huge national problem or is it just something that sounds like it's worth complaining about at a national level? I understand the personal level, I really do. But I also understand that many people live in the country cause they want to get away from it all, and they succeeded.

 

[Biznatch]

I thought with the repeal of Net "Neutrality" Armageddon would be upon us? Or maybe this will or that will or...lol

"It's only a little warmer", says the frog sitting in a pot of water on the stove.....


I guess you missed the posts about how every major ISP announced they were increasing prices for internet service starting this year (which was a piece of the NN that was repealed).

And how they are spending 10b to expand infrastructure, even though that's the same they spent last year (See NN really was stifling infrastructure upgrades).......

What about the 1000's of people the ISPs fired before the end of the year, even though they said they would be hiring tons of new workers because of the retarded tax breaks they just got. Yea that definitely isn't just going to be added to the bonuses for the poor C level employees who can't afford to upgrade their yacht.....


It's all baby steps, especially after the public outrage the FCC decided to ignore. If ISPs cranked up the heat too fast, they'd face a ton of public anger and more states starting to pass their own NN laws. But no, they'll do it slowly because most stupid 'Murcans will turn on whatever shit reality tv show they watch while drooling on the couch, and forget about the issue by next week.

 

[lcpiper]

"It's only a little warmer", says the frog sitting in a pot of water on the stove.....


I guess you missed the posts about how every major ISP announced they were increasing prices for internet service starting this year (which was a piece of the NN that was repealed).

And how they are spending 10b to expand infrastructure, even though that's the same they spent last year (See NN really was stifling infrastructure upgrades).......

What about the 1000's of people the ISPs fired before the end of the year, even though they said they would be hiring tons of new workers because of the retarded tax breaks they just got. Yea that definitely isn't just going to be added to the bonuses for the poor C level employees who can't afford to upgrade their yacht.....


It's all baby steps, especially after the public outrage the FCC decided to ignore. If ISPs cranked up the heat too fast, they'd face a ton of public anger and more states starting to pass their own NN laws. But no, they'll do it slowly because most stupid 'Murcans will turn on whatever shit reality tv show they watch while drooling on the couch, and forget about the issue by next week.

My bill hasn't gone up yet? In fact, I just beat Cox out of the next tier package with no increase in my monthly bill....yet.

I mean it's not like I wasn't paying $65 a month 18 months ago and it's only increased every few months to it's current $83 a month regardless of anything that's happened over the last year and a half.

My bill increase by like 40% over the last eighteen months with NN in place.

 

[Biznatch]

My bill hasn't gone up yet? In fact, I just beat Cox out of the next tier package with no increase in my monthly bill....yet.

I mean it's not like I wasn't paying $65 a month 18 months ago and it's only increased every few months to it's current $83 a month regardless of anything that's happened over the last year and a half.

My bill increase by like 40% over the last eighteen months with NN in place.

COX isn't one of the big 3, and it sounds like you are lucky to be in an area they service. You may even be part of the very small % of 'Murcans that actually has multiple ISPs available (I'm in LA and have a choice of 1). In that case, you probably won't see increases until they start colluding.