FBI Pilot Program Has Collected 430,000 Iris Scans

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I'm confused. What exactly is the benefit of collecting iris scans of almost a half a million arrestees? What makes an iris scan more useful that a full set of fingerprints?

In the early months of 2016, the department was collecting an average of 189 iris scans each day. San Bernardino’s activity is part of a larger pilot program organized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, one that began as a simple test of available technology but has quietly grown into something far more ambitious. Since its launch in 2013, the program has stockpiled iris scans from 434,000 arrestees, an FBI spokesperson confirmed.
 
Was that Minority Report where they had the iris contacts or implants that changed it so he couldn't be detected.
 
We already heard talk of scanners in retail locations for targeted advertising, not unlike what was seen in Minority Report, so maybe the FBI is getting a head start on a database for utilizing this vector of "attack."

DISCLAIMER: I didn't RTFA.
 
Armenius said:
We already heard talk of scanners in retail locations for targeted advertising, not unlike what was seen in Minority Report, so maybe the FBI is getting a head start on a database for utilizing this vector of "attack."

DISCLAIMER: I didn't RTFA.
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If that actually ever happens, I will be wearing mirror reflective glasses 24/7.

I already hate "targeted" advertising on web pages. It is completely lame.

Ain't no way I am going to have some crap corporate spying system targeting me by name EVER!.
 
Don't retina scans require a fairly close up of the eyeball? I'm think something like the original Avengers movie.
I've worked with facial recognition software before - most identify a few bone structures on your face (eye sockets, nasal bone, maybe your chin). This gets around beards, hairstyles, etc as it is not easy to alter your skeletal structure. Not sure if this is what FB is using - this area has probably changed a lot since I last did anything with it.
 
steakman1971 said:
Don't retina scans require a fairly close up of the eyeball? I'm think something like the original Avengers movie.
I've worked with facial recognition software before - most identify a few bone structures on your face (eye sockets, nasal bone, maybe your chin). This gets around beards, hairstyles, etc as it is not easy to alter your skeletal structure. Not sure if this is what FB is using - this area has probably changed a lot since I last did anything with it.
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Iris scan != retina scan. The iris is the colored portion of your eye, and does not require you to be super close. You still have be to be close enough to get a good image of the iris, but certainly not right up against it. There has even been research into capturing irises at greater distances (several feet).

Iris scans have the advantage of being faster and more accurate than fingerprints.
 
Velox said:
Iris scan != retina scan. The iris is the colored portion of your eye, and does not require you to be super close. You still have be to be close enough to get a good image of the iris, but certainly not right up against it. There has even been research into capturing irises at greater distances (several feet).

Iris scans have the advantage of being faster and more accurate than fingerprints.
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Wouldn't color contact lenses mess with an iris scanner?
 
Steve said:
I'm confused. What exactly is the benefit of collecting iris scans of almost a half a million arrestees? What makes an iris scan more useful that a full set of fingerprints?

In the early months of 2016, the department was collecting an average of 189 iris scans each day. San Bernardino’s activity is part of a larger pilot program organized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, one that began as a simple test of available technology but has quietly grown into something far more ambitious. Since its launch in 2013, the program has stockpiled iris scans from 434,000 arrestees, an FBI spokesperson confirmed.
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I worked a biometrics job over in Iraq. Prints were the best thing going back when there wasn't something better than prints. Also, getting good prints can be very difficult specially if the subject is dehydrated or does work that messes up their finger pads. Iris scans are far more accurate and help confirm print matches, and work when prints are of poor quality. Of course if you are trying to identify someone from crime scene forensics, unless they are pressing their eyeball really hard on some surface, those Iris scans don't work so well :ROFLMAO:
 
steakman1971 said:
Don't retina scans require a fairly close up of the eyeball? I'm think something like the original Avengers movie.
I've worked with facial recognition software before - most identify a few bone structures on your face (eye sockets, nasal bone, maybe your chin). This gets around beards, hairstyles, etc as it is not easy to alter your skeletal structure. Not sure if this is what FB is using - this area has probably changed a lot since I last did anything with it.
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retina scans and Iris scans are two different things.
 
430,000 iris scans... so they opened up a high-tech porn trade show, and had a "look through this hole" booth ?? :D
 
lcpiper said:
I worked a biometrics job over in Iraq. Prints were the best thing going back when there wasn't something better than prints. Also, getting good prints can be very difficult specially if the subject is dehydrated or does work that messes up their finger pads. Iris scans are far more accurate and help confirm print matches, and work when prints are of poor quality. Of course if you are trying to identify someone from crime scene forensics, unless they are pressing their eyeball really hard on some surface, those Iris scans don't work so well :ROFLMAO:
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In the future, criminals will remove their partners eyes so you can't confirm the kills or something like that?
 
Iris scans will bring about more contacts altering the color and patter and much more sunglasses.
 
viscountalpha said:
Iris scans will bring about more contacts altering the color and patter and much more sunglasses.
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You know, it might out in the open, but when they already have you in cuffs and are looking at your eyeballs with an iris scanner, such things become a minor inconvenience.
 
sadsteve said:
Wouldn't color contact lenses mess with an iris scanner?
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Yes, patterned contact lenses (Iris scans are typically taken in the IR range, so there is no color information) can interfere with iris scans. This is why you need a trained operator who can identify these sorts of countermeasures.
 
I get the feeling someone already has a patented way to do scans at a distance. I would think the UK would be rather far along in this as they have a lot of cameras already. Perhaps instead of one powerful camera they have a way of merging the data from lots of them...
 
And I do imagine that we will be heading in this direction, where cops will be in the middle of making an arrest, will have someone essentially detained, ( Should be with cause), and will ask someone for their ID and if that someone says they don't have any ID, that is when the hand-held scanner comes out so that the cops can check and see if the guy is on a watch list or wanted in anyway, they pull his ID from an iris scan database of known arrestees..
 
That or if you are looking to bypass security having a large subset of eyes to pull from in a form of brute force attack and creating different "unique" patterns will let you get past it more intelligently. Throw a little bit of AI creativity into the mix and you have a passable biometric hack ready to go.
 
Allowing a limited number of failed attempts has been somewhat effective as a deterrent to such tactics for the most part.
 
Well that database is about to explode in size thanks to cellphones. Apparently people think that is a "Security feature"...LOL
 
So there are these funny things called finger print scanners which reflect off the spirals. Then the crook prints a reverse image 3D printed set of finger prints. Then they cover there fingers in new skin by bandaid. They then have a new finger print that peels over after whatever they intended. Retina scanners can scan you eye and print to color contact but when they are scanned they show up as an extra layer or a different material. The cops catch some one assaulting someone they bring in both people and document the bruises and let a jury figured out what happened. When the jury decides what happened they scan the iris of the crook and that way when it happens again they can see if the finger prints are different and if the new skin dissolves in peroxide, or other cleaning agent that breaks down what is basically salty plasma... all those people that donate platelets aren't you happy it is saving lives?
 
So when can we sue for these iris scan because you know that in 2136 they will find that these scans cause ocular cancer and blindness.
I guess I will just stay very stoned and squinty from now on.
 
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