Facebook to Fight Revenge Porn by Letting Potential Victims Upload Nudes in Advance

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Facebook is testing a new detection system that relies on a database of file hashes, a cryptographic signature computed for each file. Once an abuser tries to upload an image marked as "revenge porn" in its database, its system will block the upload process. But in order to build a database of "revenge porn" file hashes, Facebook will need potential victims to upload a copy of the nude photo in advance.

This process involves the victim sending a copy of the nude photo to his own account, via Facebook Messenger. This implies uploading a copy of the nude photo on Facebook Messenger, the very same act the victim is trying to prevent. The victim can then report the photo to Facebook, which will create a hash of the image that the social network will use to block further uploads of the same photo. Facebook says it's not storing a copy of the photo, but only computing the file's hash and adding it to its database of revenge porn imagery.
 
To be clear, removing some meta data, or cropping off a 1 pixel wide side of an image, or putting a boarder around the image will render this technique completely useless. Even just changing the top-left pixel to a different color will render this useless. The bigger concern I would have is abuse by people trying to get back at other people. All they'd have to do is upload someone else's image to get it blocked. Well, let's wait and see. FB has been pure entertainment for like the last year and this ride that they're on just doesn't seem to be slowing down.
 
I'm noticing a trend here:

- Facebook fights porn by having people upload their own nudes
- Facebook fights fake news by promoting fake news comments in articles' discussions

What's next: Facebook combating global warming by starting a coal power plant business?
 
hahaha.

Are there any job openings in the department that handles this shit? I'd like to be the first to sample the nudes. But filter out the dick pics first.
 
And the award for stupid idea of the day goes to.... Facebook again? Man these guys just don't get tired of winning....
 
Some dude at Facebook is not abusing access to all these chicks uploading nudes.
 
No your honor, I did not upload those pictures out of revenge, the plaintiff has previously uploaded the very same picture themselves.
 
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Rather than trusting some anonymous person on the other end of the upload, makes more sense to let people have the tool to produce the hash. I hope this is some kind of weak hash so a simple pixel manipulation would pass. OTOH people could block images of Clinton or Trump.
 
I'm sure Facebook has to know that you can screen grab any photo and rotate it and create a new file hash right? Any trailer redneck trying to get back at Crystal Lynn because she started dating his Dad will know how to do this.

Even of they were smart enough to take that photo, auto rotate it and grab that hash as well which they might be smart enough to do, you can still do a few simple things to come up with a billion different hashes.

Who is retarded enough to do this anyways.

You guys know how this happens anyway right? This is one of the key differences between men and women. When a girl like a guy they are 10x more apt to give men "acts of service" which allows this when guys ask if they can "record their love" hahah
 
Facebook announces a plan to fight arson. Potential arson victims are instructed to burn their own house down to prevent the arsonist from burning it.
 
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We all know this is for more personalized adds for penis growth pills or something..
 
It's almost as if they think we've fallen asleep n a nuclear reactor and now we're just meat with eyes.

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Seriously Facebook?
 
To be clear, removing some meta data, or cropping off a 1 pixel wide side of an image, or putting a boarder around the image will render this technique completely useless. Even just changing the top-left pixel to a different color will render this useless. The bigger concern I would have is abuse by people trying to get back at other people. All they'd have to do is upload someone else's image to get it blocked. Well, let's wait and see. FB has been pure entertainment for like the last year and this ride that they're on just doesn't seem to be slowing down.

Your statement sir, with all due respect, is patently false. These images are run through 100's of filters, upside down, inverted, color spectrum etc etc.
 
Facebook " Ladies, please upload your amateur porn shots, we will view them and then make sure no one posts them. The viewing is ONLY for cross-checking purposes only, honest
 
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Easier solution, don't allow any nude pictures to be taken of you.

Here here, no one directly related to me has any either. Just don't take them for petes sake, whats the big draw anyway.
 
Why would this even be necessary? Facebook doesn't allow porn any way.
 
Your statement sir, with all due respect, is patently false. These images are run through 100's of filters, upside down, inverted, color spectrum etc etc.

And with all due respect I'm a senior programmer of 17 years. According to the article they're not using anything particularly fancy to detect images. They're just hashing them.

From article:
Facebook says it's not storing a copy of the photo, but only computing the file's hash and adding it to its database of revenge porn imagery.

It says nothing about them running it through 100s of filters. Now, I'm not going to say they aren't, but so far you've no evidence that I'm wrong in this regard.
 
It'd be interesting how they generate the hash, or rather, what of. If they manage enough recognition to make sure the orientation is consistent on all incoming pictures, and the face and parts of the body are filtered down to very rough markers, and that gets hashed, it could be a fairly well working tool.

And, I don't know what the consequences will be for any uploaders who try to revenge post. If that is an offence that is punishable by law (I really don't know), fb would have the proof and the user who tried to revenge post is shit out of luck. They would not only get no revenge, but have a legal issue. AND, they would not know if the original picture was already uploaded by the potential victim. I say it could be workable.
 
The lengths that Facebook will go to in order to obtain still more profitable information about its users is truly astounding. Even if FB manages to properly secure the images, how long before folks that upload images start receiving ads for bluetooth sex toys, all controllable with the handy Facebook ap?"
 
I'm noticing a trend here:

- Facebook fights porn by having people upload their own nudes
- Facebook fights fake news by promoting fake news comments in articles' discussions

What's next: Facebook combating global warming by starting a coal power plant business?

Facebook is living by the old saying " fight fire with fire" :pics:
 
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