Experts Question the Use of AI in Police Body Cameras

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  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2018
    The use of body cameras on police officers is a controversial issue, but the technology behind the actual cameras doesn't get much press coverage. As in turns out, the leading maker of of police body cams, Axon Enterprise, has a lot in common with social media platforms and other businesses that leverage machine learning algorithms. The company provides body cameras to police departments at no cost, hoping that the departments will subscribe to their data storage service. And, to save on manpower, the company is developing machine learning algorithms to automatically process raw police camera footage. While there are obvious benefits to this approach, technologists Dan Greene and Genevieve Patterson point out that there are some serious ethical and practical issues with automatically processing police footage.

    Axon claims that it will train its AI system using its existing trove of body-camera data-currently standing at 30 petabytes of video, collected by 200,000 officers. The system will then be able to redact the video to protect people's privacy, interpret and describe in written form the recorded events, and eventually help generate police reports from those descriptions. Such automated tools would free police officers to perform more valuable tasks, and they would create a searchable database of police interactions with the public. Axon has also filed a patent for real-time face recognition, which a number of its competitors are also actively developing for police body cameras. Almost two years ago, Axon founder and CEO Rick Smith predicted in an investor earnings call that the company would roll out its AI-assisted video systems in 2018, but so far the capabilities of Axon's product are more mundane. It can automatically blur or black out faces or otherwise redact personally identifiable information (after someone marks who or what is to be so masked) and tag videos and other evidence with information recorded in a police dispatch system, such as the case number, location, and type of encounter. This is far short of what’s been described in Axon's sales pitches. At the 2018 Axon Accelerate Conference in June, for example, Smith said, "One day we will be able to have AI work on [body-camera] video and in-car video to create a first draft of a report that an officer can go into and edit."
  2. jojo69

    jojo69 [H]ardForum Junkie

    Sep 13, 2009
    what could possibly go wrong?
  3. purple_monster

    purple_monster Limp Gawd

    Jun 1, 2018
    body cameras on cops in controversial? this is one of those weird issues where the far-left and far-right start to align. For too long have cops practiced intimidation to do their job. Most people feel very nervous during a traffic stop, even if guilty of a minor infraction. That is wrong. Cops should feel in danger because their job is dangerous. They should follow every law and policy and be walking on eggshells with every interaction. They should get thrown in jail for aggressive arrests and more cops should be in jail for bad shootings. More cameras. All the AI in the world watching every minute they are clocked in. Everywhere there is a cop. That power and carrying a gun attracts too many dangerous personalities to the job.
  4. SvenBent

    SvenBent 2[H]4U

    Sep 13, 2008
    this is so much the typical american response.
    lets deal with the issue after we created it

    we got a lot of criminals more punishmnets
    we got bad cops. more surveilance of cops

    im not against you concept here but i think honeslty it a lot more efficient to prevent the issues rather than trying control the issues.
    A dirty cop will work around the system. he shouldt be in there to begin with.

    Propper cop educationb would go a long way.
    its rediculous little in the states.

    Just like an open propper education system will prevent crimes.

    but you know that just my opinion comming form a countryi that works the revrese way of the states and does a lot better
  5. Joust

    Joust 2[H]4U

    Nov 30, 2017
    Apologies, doing this on mobile so it's going to be ugly.

    "this is one of those weird issues where the far-left and far-right start to align."
    - Mark my words, the original crusaders for wanting cameras with be adamantly against them soon enough.

    "For too long have cops practiced intimidation to do their job. Most people feel very nervous during a traffic stop, even if guilty of a minor infraction. That is wrong."

    - People who are breaking the law shouldn't feel nervous about being caught by the enforcer of the rules? When you were young and breaking the rules, you weren't nervous getting busted by your parents?

    "That power and carrying a gun attracts too many dangerous personalities to the job."

    -I carry and am an instructor that has certified many to carry. Merely having the responsibility of carrying a firearm does indicate negative personality traits.
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  6. lcpiper

    lcpiper [H]ardForum Junkie

    Jul 16, 2008

    Completely disagree.

    No sane person would sign up for such a job. That means you'll only get the losers applying for a badge and gun. Low recruitment only leads to lowering standards, that means more losers wearing badges and carrying guns.

    The absolute best situation is where the cops police themselves and it's the peer pressure and the professionalism of the force that keeps things straight. It's not full-proof, it's not perfect, but it is best. People have to accept that as long as humans are part of the picture then you will have human weakness and failures. Only through professionalism of the force can you reduce this to a minimum acceptable level. Extreme oversight will only drive away good people because what everyone seems to forget is that good people can do other things and they will move on if you refuse to acknowledge the good ones and treat them badly for their exceptional service.
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  7. freeloader1969

    freeloader1969 2[H]4U

    Dec 13, 2003
    They're not showing full police footage now to jurors (Philip Brailsford, cough, cough). Can you imagine a machine attempting to determine what it should keep or not keep as footage?
  8. dgz

    dgz [H]ardness Supreme

    Feb 15, 2010
    Spoken like someone living a pretty ordinary life. Never been arrested, no drugs history and such? Is my assessment correct?
  9. blandead

    blandead Limp Gawd

    Nov 6, 2010
    Face recognition needs to stay away

    If a police officer is pulling you over they just need to look up your plates or just scan drivers license. why the need for facial recognition unless they plan on massive data mining and advertising to third parties