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Discussion in '[H]ard|OCP Front Page News' started by cageymaru, Oct 9, 2018.
Stop being naive and acting like spoofing doesn't exist.
I say this is a CIA / NSA cover up job while simultaneously causing a reason to coerce manufactures to build more in the states.
Yeah... I'll wait until someone offers some actual evidence before losing my shit.
I see one of two possibilities. Either Bloomberg is doing excellent reporting which no one else is doing, or someone (or some people) are purposely putting the story out to manipulate the market to make a lot of money. You don't double down on what is potentially an extremely significant espionage story of the past few decades without either a lot of proof, or some other motive. Either way, someone's going to be going to jail over this.
we're lucky they are willing to disclose this..
otherwise we would need to wait for another Snowden or Wikileaks.
reprisal on China ? jail = impossible. Some expulsion of diplomats/agents = prob
Can't spoof a destination, if these chips send data over the wire to X address, it would have been detected *somewhere* by now, by someone. People discover google/apple/microsoft devices phoning home before the devices/os's are even released to the public, hard to believe that there isn't one competent security team out there to catch this over the years.
UNLESS as someone suggested it's actually an NSA chip, and not Chinese, and the NSA has upstream devices to filter out their traffic. This is still highly unlikely in this day and age with NGFW's able to do SSL decryption, app identification etc.
Story still doesn't add up and lack of actual evidence is a huge red flag to the legitimacy of the story.
well, you can of course pay for the real scoop as a customer.
Will cost a few dozen million.
many many things related to intelligence and the military are not free and available on the internet.
poor dudes like me can only speculate. ( but our "conspiracy theories" has been proven true by the leaks over the years )
Actually, I know what happened. There are compromised Supermicro servers installed somewhere. It's at Bloomberg, and they're using the hacked servers to publish these stories
I really wish they'd show some pictures of that connector/chip.
I realise that the chip embedded in the PCB would be hard to show off but an unusual Ethernet connector should be easy.
Can't find a reason not to disclose some hard facts unless there are none.
0/10 - still not buying it. Third time's the charm?
Actually the west gave them their technology to manufacture their products for cheap.
So yeah, fuck china, how dare they? They should just continue making our appliances for a penny on the dollar!
This stuff is hilarious to read...
YOu get that FW-admin on they payrole and all your filter issues are solved. Don't forget, the easiest way to any data is a bottle of Whiskey for the admin, plain simple,
Pending investigations by 3 letter agencies or not letting directly what we know to the other side.
the bulk of servers in any server farm are connecting via rj45 ethernet, not fiber. Now the interconnects for switches and such, yes fiber.
Maybe for small businesses but for a telco?
is it ?? Isn't it ??
One day - Supermicro boards are bugged !!
Next day - It is all fake news !!!
Now - Supermicro boards are bugged again !!
came for silicon implants, was disappointed.
FBI Director today - Be careful what you read lol
Supermicro infected? That can't be good for their brand.
I could see that being true a few years ago but these days the telcos are showing their employees the door and backfill those openings with severely less competent contract bodies. Cooking the books for Wallstreet is more important than security.
Blame your government and businesses. Nobody was ever forced to do business with China.
Really, blaming China for being China...is retarded.
The Chinese gov't is hostile to the US and the 'west' in general. They always have been. By always, I mean since the start of CPC control of China.
They put on a welcoming face and whispered sweet nothings into the ears of the 'west' in the 80's/90's and just like magic, businesses went there in droves trying to save a few dollars to increase profits. Some willingly signed transfer of technology agreements, some went into joint venture partnerships with majority Chinese control all to chase profits. Please do not pretend the companies were somehow duped.
As to the Chinese hacking 'western' business interests and anything else they can....of course they do that shit. They're a hostile nation!
I do have to wonder what the fuck people thought was going to happen?
No Wai!! (sorry, couldn't resist!)
but Israel is fine since they spy on you, steal your technology, pick your presidents and their entire administrations, poison you, lie to you daily (main stream media), you literally fight their wars in the middle east(Libya, Iraq etc), you give them billions a day in free cash, you created, train and fund Isis together with Israel, they also kill innocent Palestinians in their own homes, they also jailed a 16 year old girl, did 9/11 and are an entire nation of paedophiles(its in the Talmud).......
Yet China is the problem lmao.
Yup. You're rational.
i am gonna give you 2 links. the first is the video i was talking about. it is called "to protect and infect" . the second will be to the CCC archive. peace.
edit: here is link to "to protect and infect" part 2
"Among the targets of the Chinese hack identified by Bloomberg was a contractor that made software to help funnel drone footage to the Central Intelligence Agency and communicate with the International Space Station."
Hmmmm I dont remember that part in the initial article...