EVGA GTX 690 is live on Newegg

I think it's important to point out that just one idiot bought a pair of 690's (same buyer bought both) off Ebay for $2099. Go to the "completed listings" and you'll see. So ok, there was one person out there with more dollars than sense, more money than patience. There's not exactly a "market" of buyers out there in the $2000 range.

All the other sellers who have listings for $1800 - $2100 have 0 bids and no one clicking "buy it now." Most of those are going to expire unsold and they'll get relisted for less. An item is worth what it sells for. In this case, for the 690, it ain't $2000.

Newegg's right, it's definitely more than $1000. Could be $1200. Whatever the price is right now, it'll eventually level out. This is the same for any hot new product in short supply. In a few months the it will be back to $1000. Even at Newegg. Nothing to see here, move along...
 
akg102 said:
My only problem is that my taxes probably went to someone on welfare to buy this.
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This attitude infuriates me. For every welfare cheat in this world there are a hundred people that genuinely need welfare simply to survive. I've never once collected a welfare check but I did live in HUD housing for several years. Now I make almost six figures, but without the federal HUD program to help me during a difficult period in my life I may not have recovered at all, and I am not the exception to the rule I am an example of why these programs exist.

It's simply idiotic to make blanket statements like "my tax dollars probably allow welfare cheats to splurge on video cards" and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
 
l88bastard said:
Having owned several "dual gpu single cards" from AMD & Nvidia I don't see what all the hub bub is about for this card. What you gain in GPU power you loose in micro-stutter & multi-gpu lag.

As an owner of a single card 7970 rig and single card 680gtx rig I can honestly tell you that a one gpu solution with a few graphical settings turned down is way better than any two gpu solution any day of the week!
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That has been my experience as well. I "side-graded" from an AMD 6990 dual GPU to a single GTX 680. Overclocked, both cards bench about the same (~P10800) but firing up the single 680 for the first time I was floored with how buttery smooth it was. I had no idea how bad it had been with the dual GPUs until I tried a single. "Ah, so that's what micro-stuttering was!"

But here's the thing - SLI is reportedly better about lag and micro-stuttering than Crossfire, and the GTX 690, by some early reports, is even better than two GTX 680's in SLI.

Kyle, Mr. [h]ardocp himself:
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038682089&postcount=13

Some german review site:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/...dia-geforce-gtx-690/8/#abschnitt_mikroruckler

So that's why I pulled the trigger on a 690 (at $1050 from Evga). Same perf as two 680's, same price too (well, mostly - I'm getting a $50 t-shirt and mousepad, bah), but less noise, less power (and thus less heat), and maybe even less stutter to the point of same as single 680. That adds up to a lot of value above and beyond the 690's MSRP of $1000. I can see why many people snapped it up at $1200.

But not $2000. The one person who did that is retarded.
 
MacLeod said:
Ha! Thats awesome!

Ya know I actually think thats kinda cool. Makes me proud to be a PC nerd/enthusiast. No matter how much it costs, we'll still buy it if its awesome. :D
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There are still dumb enthusiasts out there.
 
Do you guys think the price for GTX will drop by a lot once GTX 680 FTW 4gb edition is going to be released? Or the only loser is gonna be GTX 680 2gb wile 690 will hold its value?just give me your 2c...
 
l88bastard said:
Having owned several "dual gpu single cards" from AMD & Nvidia I don't see what all the hub bub is about for this card. What you gain in GPU power you loose in micro-stutter & multi-gpu lag.

As an owner of a single card 7970 rig and single card 680gtx rig I can honestly tell you that a one gpu solution with a few graphical settings turned down is way better than any two gpu solution any day of the week!
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Same here. That's why I have a single 7970 right now. I was a very early adopter with 6800 GT SLI back in the day. Had 5870 xfire and experience with my roommate's GTX 480 SLI in nvsurround. I'm pushed back to a single card solution now.
 
Binar said:
Do you guys think the price for GTX will drop by a lot once GTX 680 FTW 4gb edition is going to be released? Or the only loser is gonna be GTX 680 2gb wile 690 will hold its value?just give me your 2c...
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1) If by GTX you mean the 690, then no.

2) I wouldn't consider the 680 2 GB to be a "loser". Most likely it will remain $500 for quite some time and the 4 GB cards will be $600+.
 
Just imagine how good of an entire sli/xfire rig you could buy and build for $1,200! :eek:

Maybe not the fastest graphics cards but enough to get the job done. That alone should tell you how ridiculously priced these cards are.
 
mococaido said:
Whoa there!

You think, I'm a dumb enthusiast because, I bought a i7-3960X??
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Did you pay 20% over MSRP for that processor? :D

I wouldn't call people who bought the 690 "dumb" but they certainly must be people for whom spending $1200 versus $1000 means nothing.
 
requiem99 said:
The rich aren't going to camp the sites to snag one for speculating, they're going to simply buy one later at a markup, because the hours of time they would waste camping it would be worth far more than the markup itself, which to them is irrelevant when you have that kind of money. The rich did not snap up the available stock. The speculators did to profit off the impatient rich.
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No its not the "rich" its their kids! and they do have time to keep checking sites for inventory! :)
 
MavericK96 said:
Did you pay 20% over MSRP for that processor? :D

I wouldn't call people who bought the 690 "dumb" but they certainly must be people for whom spending $1200 versus $1000 means nothing.
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As there are also people for whom spending 1000 vs 2000 means nothing. As there are also for whom spending 1000 vs 10000 means nothing. You seem to underestimate the amount of wealth in the demand scale. It far outstrips the availability for something as hot and scarce as the GTX 690.
 
xorbe said:
This. Pretty sure the GTX 590 and the Radeon 6990 were both hard to come by also. And given nVidia's availability of the 680 ...
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Bitcoin Mining last year made the 6990's to where they were never in stock for several months.
 
burningrave101 said:
Oil is something that has become a necessity in our society today in order to be able to go to work and school or just the market to buy some of that food and water so it's not something we can currently live without. That is nothing like a luxury item which includes $1,000 graphics cards, $50,000 sports cars, and that $500 pair of jeans.
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I ride a bicycle. Oil reliance entirely off-topic but its not a good analogy.
 
Inu said:
I ride a bicycle. Oil reliance entirely off-topic but its not a good analogy.
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Lets be real, you dont ride a bicycle everywhere (in fact, 99% you dont ride one at all and just thought it was a snappy theoretical comeback)

Even so, your computer you're posting on is heavily made of plastic aka a petrochemical product.
 
Shark974 said:
Lets be real, you dont ride a bicycle everywhere (in fact, 99% you dont ride one at all and just thought it was a snappy theoretical comeback)

Even so, your computer you're posting on is heavily made of plastic aka a petrochemical product.
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Exactly. The sense of entitlement in American society these days is just incredible, and it has nothing to do with socialism in concept or in practise. That's a facile argument. It's all about people on a basic level taking things so much for granted that they feel the entire world should behave exactly as "they" think it should, ignoring science/history/common sense in the process. The old adage "the world revolves around them" applies to all of these people who have no concept of what it is like to actually BE without.
 
This is ridiculous. If you don't like the price of the video card right now then don't buy the damn thing. It's that simple. When I heard the $800 price tag in the review I thought it is stupid expensive. I won't buy the newest video cards just because they're always $500+. But I don't sit there and bitch about price gouging and shit. If you all know how supply and demand works then what's the problem? It should make perfect sense to you.

No one is forcing you to buy it.
 
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The price is a non issue. People go SLI all the time. 2 X $500 - 549 GTX 680's = More than this single card or the same price. Let people do what they want with their hard earned dollars.
 
Don't get me wrong if I had an extra $1200 dollars laying around collecting dust I'd be all over one of these. I don't, so it's really a non-issue with me.

I will proudly admit that my 6970+6950 Xfire setup is doing everything I need to and more. I game at 1920X1080. And BF3 with all the whistles turned on is just buttery smooth. Microstutter? sorry I've never had any issues with mine.

I'm by no means a fanboy - I buy whatever works for my situation at the price I need. For 180 dollars I got an unlocked 6950. Coupled with my existing hardware you just can't beat that price vs. performance wise. not to mention I dabble in bitcoin mining and a few encryption based pieces of software that make great use of the AMD shaders. before that I was heavy into F@H which nvidia excels in.

I don't expect the 690's to be manufactured very long. Think about it this way, the only way the 680 price can go is downwards over time. Age and competition will always make the price fall. the price of the 690 is directly linked to the price of the 680. By the time the 680 falls to $300 dollars, that means (loosely) the 690 would be worth $600. Around this same time we would obviously have the next generation of hardware floating around. Thereby making the 690 a card without a huge huge market.
 
xTrident said:
This is ridiculous. If you don't like the price of the video card right now then don't buy the damn thing. It's that simple. When I heard the $800 price tag in the review I thought it is stupid expensive. I won't buy the newest video cards just because they're always $500+. But I don't sit there and bitch about price gouging and shit. If you all know how supply and demand works then what's the problem? It should make perfect sense to you.

No one is forcing you to buy it.
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Exactly why I didn't buy it from newegg, and I had full plans of buying from them if you look at my post yesterday AM. http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038682516&postcount=33

No problem, just went with another retailer and got it for $1017 shipped.

I felt they pulled a dickhead move and price gauged, some may not. I will now take my business else where, simple as that.

It's funny how the guys sitting on the sidelines don't think it's price gauging and the guys that were ready to give $1k(msrp) to newegg yesterday, felt it was price gauging.
 
collegeboy69us said:
Don't get me wrong if I had an extra $1200 dollars laying around collecting dust I'd be all over one of these.
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Probably why you don't have $1200 sitting around. Spend your money wisely. The card has a $1k msrp why would you pay an extra $200. Especially knowing the card was sold that morning on the evga site for msrp. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you should spend it foolishly.
 
I wonder what percentage of cards are snapped up by gouger resellers. $1200 might slow the gougers down, and actually put more cards in the hands of users at a lesser price than the big-time gougers.
 
0100 said:
Exactly why I didn't buy it from newegg, and I had full plans of buying from them if you look at my post yesterday AM. http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038682516&postcount=33

No problem, just went with another retailer and got it for $1017 shipped.

I felt they pulled a dickhead move and price gauged, some may not. I will now take my business else where, simple as that.

It's funny how the guys sitting on the sidelines don't think it's price gauging and the guys that were ready to give $1k(msrp) to newegg yesterday, felt it was price gauging.
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A 20% markup above MSRP doesn't sound like a big deal to me. I think the dollar amount is being looked at to much compared to the percentage amount. Obviously the demand for the 690, as seems the case for any brand spanking new piece PC technology was through the roof. I would have been surprised if Newegg had charged MSRP for the video card. The upside is people will have the best of the best out right now. The consequence of having the best of the best is paying for it.

I don't understand hating on Newegg so badly just because they they charged 20% more on a brand new product. And apparently due to it selling out seven minutes into it being available as one of the first posts mentioned is proof that the price wasn't completely crazy. Like most everyone else that's posted in this thread I've dumped my fair share of money into Newegg as well. I've never had a problem with them. Fast shipping, accurate descriptions, have yet to get a DOA product etc etc. Just a good business to deal with as far as I'm concerned. But a brand new product with extremely high demand is only marked up 20% beyond MSRP and that's enough to wind up hating Newegg?

I check out different places for products that Newegg has just to see if I can get a better deal on it somewhere else. If I find it cheaper someplace else I don't think Newegg is some kind of devil company out to screw all of it's customers. If Newegg has customers willing to pay $1200 why wouldn't they charge that much for it? Plus, I'm always confident in what I'm purchasing with Newegg.
 
0100 said:
Probably why you don't have $1200 sitting around. Spend your money wisely. The card has a $1k msrp why would you pay an extra $200. Especially knowing the card was sold that morning on the evga site for msrp. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you should spend it foolishly.
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Maybe it's because I can't hear the tone -- but it sounds like you just called me 'broke bastard' in so many words?

If you had access to my bank account you would find I do in fact have more that $1200 dollars in it. My point was if I had $1200 sitting around *collecting dust*

Truth be told I just bought a brand new car so that's an extra 200/month that goes out the window. No, I'm no baller, it's a 2012 Kia Rio, but I do love an efficient card, 40mpgs bitches :)

If you gave me a time machine and I could go back to 2008 - I'd probably throw down for at least one 690. Back before the collapse in oil and gas life was *GOOD* financially.

Shit happens. But one thing I'm thankful for is how I've come out of it, all the credit card debt is paid off and 100% self sufficient - I'm glad I didn't have to tuck tail and move back in with mommy and daddy. Constantly on the search for a new job, 19/hour is okay... but not for someone who's 30 and has a degree.

Let's put it this way, if I had ZERO debt and making the same I make now, it wouldn't be a big deal to blow 2 weeks pay on a video card knowing I wasn't going to lose my house or car, or not be able to pay for higher priority obligations.
 
At $40 shipping and a $200 markup I expect it to come in a wooden crate and hand delivered by the CEO of NewEgg :).
 
I have $1200 set aside, but not for this crap. It's going towards a pair of GTX 680's 4GB in SLI, when I can actually find it!
 
requiem99 said:
Exactly. The sense of entitlement in American society these days is just incredible, and it has nothing to do with socialism in concept or in practise. That's a facile argument. It's all about people on a basic level taking things so much for granted that they feel the entire world should behave exactly as "they" think it should, ignoring science/history/common sense in the process. The old adage "the world revolves around them" applies to all of these people who have no concept of what it is like to actually BE without.
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night_2004 said:
At $40 shipping and a $200 markup I expect it to come in a wooden crate and hand delivered by the CEO of NewEgg :).
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I got a kick out of seeing both of these responses on the same page.
 
MavericK96 said:
No kidding. Plus, $40 shipping per card? Not enough to just gouge on the price, apparently. :p :rolleyes:
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Screw it. Can't beat em, join em, i'll have to fleece some of these on ebay for mad profits :eek:

Stock checking programs activated ;)
 
night_2004 said:
Seriously hope eVGA keeps their stock of cards to their website if retailers are going to up the price by $200. Wouldn't eVGA get a bigger cut of the profits if they sell the card themselves?
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Probably. And they could probably gouge too.

I bet the e-tailers are not getting big discounts anyway since the quantity is so minimal. But to EVGA, those are guaranteed sales
 
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