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They also forget that steam only takes the 30% for their in store sales, not for 3rd party and retail keys. From the hundreds of games I have on steam only a handful were purchased in the actual steam store during some sale. Epic takes their fee even for 3rd party keys, so 3rd party keys are not very common for egs titles. Only happens for exclusives.
They got a shit ton of money from Tencent however I think. I remember there being something about them selling a 40% stake to a Chinese company for a shit ton of money. But yeah Fortnite definitely helped.
Alien Isolation is also native for Linux. Linux isn't important in terms of their business model, but Epic isn't exactly liked by the community and they could use all the PR they can get and supporting Linux would help.
I think I saw somewhere that the average breakdown of money spent per user on the EGS is around $7.50.
But I do like the Unreal Engine and its tools.
Everytime origin asked me for feedback, I typed
And as long as they don't treat me as one, I won't be a customer at their shop. What comes around goes around.
Didn't Microsoft start publishing on Steam as well recently?
Indeed. They just had a big sale this past weekend on Microsoft games.
Their client is no worse than uplay or origin. I care more about their contempt of customers. If you take the customer for granted you loose business. That's like sales 101.
And? Developers are targeting Epic and not the gamers? Customers or those buying the game want more than just a start button for a game especially when the game does not work and their is nothing to guide you what you are suppose to do. I had a problem in Control, one of 2 games on Epic I paid for, ended up going to Steam to figure how to correct the problem. If developers don't care about their customers then yes please go to EPIC so they can be ignored. Steam you can hook up with friends, take images, videos, ask questions, get answers, make stupid or intelligent conversation, get suggestions, motivation, get into the game. EPIC??? Launch and hope the game actually works and you don't need anything else.
You're wrong. If Valve didn't see gamers as customers they wouldn't have invested so much development time on making the client better and pushing extraneous stuff like friends lists(to lock users into the platform full time) and the user engagement promotions during sales, if Epic didn't see gamers as customers then they wouldn't have spent a ton on constantly giving away games for the last year and a half.
Microsoft wants what Epic wants, and that's to make money off selling games. Specifically other peoples games. Which means they want control over their platform. Linux is not Windows and not even Xbox, which pushes further away from a controlled ecosystem. Microsoft using Steam is a temporary set back for them.
Whoever said that is an idiot. Customers make money, not Epic.
This is something Gabe Newell has expressed a lot, and that's customer relations. He expressed this in his interview back when he really hated the PS3.
That's exactly the issue. that they view developers as the customer and gamers as chattel. Talk about missing the point.
In your dreams, see: this very topic. They paid for games to be there, yet gamers did not come, at least not paying ones. A few reluctantly bought the exlcusives, the rest said f you. I'd rather not play games than let them dictate the terms and think I'm some mindless drone who will just follow the games.
I’d prefer people not use that either...
I do feel that UE3 ruined an entire generation of games, or at least held them back from being their best. UE4 doesn't seem as bad as UE3 was, but at least it's not as ubiquitous.
On the engine front, there isn't a lot that does the full gambit as Unreal does, your options are basically Unreal, Unity, and GoDot. But the support and resources Epic makes available to developers can really make them an attractive option to a lesser extent I suppose you can go with Cryengine or Lumberyard but the support there is somewhat limited and both don't have great reputations on the development side. So I get Epyc's position though, Valve made steam what it is now using the source engine and licensing that to anybody and their dog on the cheap to get titles in fast to see what stuck, Epic somewhat late to the party is trying a go at the same strategy, I mean honestly, I sort of hope it pans out and sort of hate them for doing it. I am far more conflicted on the subject than I should be.
I don't wanna like this but it's accurate.
I wish they'd "invest" in a bunch of the franchises that helped to grow the Steam platform in the first place, but I guess they served their purpose. When I think of game developers now I don't think of Valve unless I'm waxing poetic about the mighty days of the Source engine.
"Mighty days" of the Source Engine? Outside of Titanfall I don't know of any "AAA" titles from third-party developers that used Source.
Source2 just isn't as robust an engine as many of the others out there, Valve is working on porting it to mobile but it really hasn't had any substantial feature updates or improvements in a long while with its big claim to fame being that it supports Vulkan, Rubikon, and of course VR; but to date pretty sure only a handful of games have ever been released using it, there are just too many better options kicking around out there and Valve has lost interest in putting out first-party titles.
You never played Team Fortress, Left 4 Dead, Half-Life, Portal? Noko was talking about Valve reinvesting their 30% into the business, but Valve got extra fat and happy selling hats, skins, and crates/cases/lootboxes just like Epic did with Fortnite. Unreal Tournament might not have a big enough following for Epic to bother, but no one knows why Valve never bothered to develop TF3, L4D3, Portal 3, or Half-Life 3 despite massive demand for their games.
They just released Half-Life: Alyx and Dota Underlords last year.
I know I counted those, they released the engine in 2013 and including both those there has been 5 games launched with it.
