Engadget: This double-height keyboard puts a numpad above the letters

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  1. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    Why does a keyboard need a handle? Its supposed to sit stationary on the desk.
     
  2. Krazy925

    Krazy925 2[H]4U

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    I’m barely old enough to remember the glory days of strafing with the direction keys.

    Keep up the good life. I love and support you.
     
  3. ThatITGuy

    ThatITGuy Limp Gawd

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    Like the idea of that, but i would prefer slightly larger WASD keys (and positioned more like the arrow keys), with the hotkeys positioned around that. I have even thought about a thumb stick, like the tartarus/orbweaver but not sure if i would be able to get used to that. Plus with these being off the keyboard, it is far more difficult to quickly type in chat.
     
  4. BiH115

    BiH115 Gif Guy

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    Quirky. I kind of like it to be honest, new is sometimes nice. English Engadget has some of the most odd commentary I've seen (far cry from the JP one which I read daily).
     
  5. SvenBent

    SvenBent 2[H]4U

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    Because it always good for effectivenss to replace a memorised layout ...
    This is bar far at best a niche product and at worst tottaly idiotic

    Also moving hands from side to side is way more natural than up and down.
     
  6. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    You have to up your game to ESDF.
     
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  7. BiH115

    BiH115 Gif Guy

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    I tried once back in my heyday with WoW. By "tried", I mean I gave it a shot for about 5 minutes, then I didn't feel like putting in further effort. I can see it's validity though, opens up W, Q, and A.
     
  8. sharknice

    sharknice [H]ard|Gawd

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    Also you wouldn't be able to rest your wrist when you use the numpad. Well you could, you would just be spamming juihkguh in your numbers. It almost defeats the entire purpose of this keyboard.
     
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  9. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    I mean, the position of the keys is exactly the same, so it shouldn't be hard to acclimate to it. Your pinky may be confused at first, but I don't think that is hard to adjust to. ESDF is also keeping your hand in the natural position on the home row.
     
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  10. BiH115

    BiH115 Gif Guy

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    Believe me, I absolutely understand all points, and you're right that it wouldn't take too long, but I just never really stuck with it. WASD honestly works just fine for me, and I can do nearly everything I want with that layout with any game.
     
  11. zamardii12

    zamardii12 2[H]4U

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    By far the best solution that i've found and that I use is having a Tenkeyless keyboard and a cheap wireless numpad that I take out whenever I need it (which is incredibly rarely).

    I use the Logitech G410 Tenkeyless and this cheap 2.4GHz wireless numpad. A single AA battery lasted me what seemed like a year.

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  12. JustinCorrigible

    JustinCorrigible Gawd

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    I cannot function on a computer keyboard without a numpad. If I'm gonna have to type in IP addresses, or numbers quickly in general... no frigging way I'm doing it without a numpad, let alone one above the rest of the keyboard like this abomination.
     
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  13. zamardii12

    zamardii12 2[H]4U

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    Obviously everyone knows that but are you really crunching numbers and entering IP addresses that often when you are at home? Unless you play flight simulators a lot I doubt you're using much of the num pad at home.
     
  14. Nobu

    Nobu 2[H]4U

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    I use it any time I'm entering more than one or two numbers, it's really convenient (and I wouldn't want to have to pull out a separate numpad just to have a short kb. Which is why I got a coolermaster storm quickfire tk.
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  15. Burticus

    Burticus 2[H]4U

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    https://www.amazon.com/Asus-Claymore-Mechanical-Cherry-Red/dp/B01NH58I8J

    goto 4:53 in this video to see the Asus ROG Claymore. Detachable 10 key and can attach to either side (not wireless tho)..



    Only $249, bargain *cough cough*
     
  16. JustinCorrigible

    JustinCorrigible Gawd

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    Yes, actually, more than you assume. The only time I use the numbers above the qwerty is for the special characters. I am also doing a lot of adding new IP ranges, etc. for exceptions and block lists in my firewall. Pretty much the only reasons I'm using my computer anymore since having children. I would love to be able to play a flight sim.
     
  17. Master_shake_

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    BOOO!!

    that thing looks awful
     
  18. Todd Walter

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    Z's not old or he'd remember that WASD was the default because the 5150 didn't have an island of arrow keys and the numeric keypad used different scan codes. It's just you whippersnappers that need that kind of crutch!;)
     
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  19. tempertantrum

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    Wow, that seems like a lot of wasted movement to do basic stuff. When milliseconds count, moving fingers all the way up to the backspace key and back to reload would drive me nuts. It would be interesting to see someone do a theoretical analysis of a minimum time to execute layout...
     
  20. Krazy925

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    I remember when everyone started buying those stupid Logitech and razer single handed keyboard devices. I could never get used to it.
     
  21. Todd Walter

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    Yeah, muscle memory needs an anchor point. Those keypads were too small to provide one. They were somewhat useful for the CAD set as it left more room for the digitizer.
     
  22. vick1000

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    Needs a flight stick right in the middle. NB4 foto-shoop.

    When I first read the title, I though it would be hovering above, like a two story KB.
     
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  24. elite.mafia

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    Wtf is this layout. It's not even close to a normal qwerty board... seriously this is awful.
     
  25. Aix.

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    So you're expected to sit in a position where you can comfortably type... And now you get to reach forward a bunch and hover your palms above the rest of the keys while you try to use the number keys? How is that good from either an ergonomic or convenience standpoint?

    From a gaming perspective I dislike moving "up" from WASD on the keyboard for any reason, and I've been gaming on Nostromo/G13/Tartarus gamepads for a good 10 years now to avoid it. This thing does not appeal...