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Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

Announcement tomorrow.

https://x.com/bethesda/status/1914341006188712023

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Hershy said:
If it works for you then that’s all that matters. The only real opinion that actually does matter about any game is yours.

I just think that a modern audience… or a younger group… will not accept Vanilla Oblivion gameplay. I could be wrong but I’d be shocked honestly.

Also… yes, you’re right… nothing has been confirmed.
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You never know.. it could appeal to a younger audience.. like kids just getting into gaming and RPGs.. probably much younger .. but I think this is mainly for fans of the original getting to see it modernized… and I never joined the thieves guild and went that route.. so was thinking that might be a fun way to play it through.

Man the Skyblivion team has to be going “SOB” right about now.

Well.. I guess we find out everything tomorrow.
 
As long as the remastered version don't have these NPCs that look like the clocked 200'000 hours on their Androids in the past few years with full brightness on. The whole meme with homeless people acting like Morrowind or Oblivion NPCs.
 
revenant said:
You never know.. it could appeal to a younger audience.. like kids just getting into gaming and RPGs.. probably much younger .. but I think this is mainly for fans of the original getting to see it modernized… and I never joined the thieves guild and went that route.. so was thinking that might be a fun way to play it through.

Man the Skyblivion team has to be going “SOB” right about now.

Well.. I guess we find out everything tomorrow.
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It's just a remaster. I don't think the intention is for it to get game of the year sales or anything. This is extremely low budget stuff compared to making Starfield or ES6.

I think the appeal will mostly be to people who played the original or played Skyrim and are interested in what the older games were like. Even Skyrim is 14 years old at this point. I don't think it's going to be a mass hit with younger people. I'm guessing it's a flavor of the month type game with how popular it is.
 
revenant said:
Man the Skyblivion team has to be going “SOB” right about now.
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Ya well... This is frequently a problem with really ambitious community projects. They take so long, they are obsolete by the time they complete, if they ever do. While people like to shit on game studios for how long things take, it really does take a lot of work to make a big game.
 
And whenever the game does release we’ll have to brace for the impact from all the usual suspects, complaining that it isn’t a free update.
 
Hershy said:
The PC Gamer review from 2006.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/the-elder-scrolls/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-review/

“Your adventures are more varied than those of any other game I could name, and magnificently rendered by the game's powerhouse graphics.”
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I mean they WERE powerhouse graphics in 2006. It really showed off the Xbox360 which was a hitter at the time, and to really get it running well on the PC at high rez/FPS you needed an 8800. I was amazed at how cool it looked. Of course almost 20 years later it looks pretty dated, you would hope there would be progress such that it does.
 
Sycraft said:
I mean they WERE powerhouse graphics in 2006. It really showed off the Xbox360 which was a hitter at the time, and to really get it running well on the PC at high rez/FPS you needed an 8800. I was amazed at how cool it looked. Of course almost 20 years later it looks pretty dated, you would hope there would be progress such that it does.
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I still remember the first look outside after I escaped the sewer. The graphics were definitely top of the line for the time.

I also remember accidently pickpocketing a guard shortly afterwards and being on the run from guards the entire rest of the game.
 
revenant said:
Man the Skyblivion team has to be going “SOB” right about now.
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Why? I'd rather play that than this.
sharknice said:
I still remember the first look outside after I escaped the sewer. The graphics were definitely top of the line for the time.

I also remember accidently pickpocketing a guard shortly afterwards and being on the run from guards the entire rest of the game.
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Stepping out of the sewers still leaves me in awe every time. I don't think any other TES game has had a moment like that, or any other WRPG in general.
 
sharknice said:
I still remember the first look outside after I escaped the sewer. The graphics were definitely top of the line for the time.

I also remember accidently pickpocketing a guard shortly afterwards and being on the run from guards the entire rest of the game.
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I can't remember if it was the first, but it was for sure one of the first games I ever saw with an HDR rendering pipline and the associated ability to do camera like changes in brightness. There was a lot, visually, to be impressed by.

The game mechanics on the other hand, those needed some modding. I could not deal with the "everything is always a fixed level in relation to you" shit.

I'm looking forward to probably playing it again. We'll see how the remaster looks, see how the modding scene looks, etc but it is one I could for sure go for a remaster of.
 
A few screenshots of my modded Oblivion from 2008 or something ...

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I wonder how they will hold up to the UE5 version... I know the UE5 vegetation will look way better.. but some of these stone textures are pretty good still.
 
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The original Oblivion on XBox 360 gave me the same feeling of vastness that Zelda on the N64 gave me. I can't think of any other game that gave me that primal sense of "VAST"
 
There was some leaked info that said this was going to be $70? If so...hell nah.
 
MavericK said:
There was some leaked info that said this was going to be $70? If so...hell nah.
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If it’s remade like Dead Space 2023 was then it’s basically a new game, so, yeah, the price should be $70.

When you go to the movies and you see a remake, you don’t say, I want this movie to be half price because this is an identical version of a movie that was made twenty years ago.

You’re not entitled to a discount just because you played the earlier version.
 
Hershy said:
If it’s remade like Dead Space 2023 was then it’s basically a new game, so, yeah, the price should be $70.

When you go to the movies and you see a remake, you don’t say, I want this movie to be half price because this is an identical version of a movie that was made twenty years ago.

You’re not entitled to a discount just because you played the earlier version.
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Meanwhile, the Last of Us Part II Remaster is only $50. Try again.

It also appears they'll be pushing microtransactions as well (presumably via the Creation Club).
 
Hershy said:
If it’s remade like Dead Space 2023 was then it’s basically a new game, so, yeah, the price should be $70.

When you go to the movies and you see a remake, you don’t say, I want this movie to be half price because this is an identical version of a movie that was made twenty years ago.

You’re not entitled to a discount just because you played the earlier version.
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Hershy said:
I realize that. That’s not why I wrote lol. Do I really need to explain it?
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Hershy said:
You don’t know what ‘this’ is yet.
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Multi QUOTE ftw. No need to make 5000 posts to spam the thread ;). Yes, you laughed at the idea of oblivion having good graphics for 2006 by quoting pc gamer then saying "lol", why deny it?

Hershy said:
The PC Gamer review from 2006.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/the-elder-scrolls/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-review/

“Your adventures are more varied than those of any other game I could name, and magnificently rendered by the game's powerhouse graphics.”

lol
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Hershy said:
When you go to the movies and you see a remake, you don’t say, I want this movie to be half price because this is an identical version of a movie that was made twenty years ago.
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Movie does not have good dynamic pricing, they sometime use convoluted ways to charge more for big movies, but often a good seat for the latest 3 hours Star wars cost the same as a bad seat for a 80 minutes small indie (outside the special sound-giant screen-3d format convoluted way because there is no dynamic pricing).

A remaster in theater is often quite expensive to watch as well,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhu...urse-for-great-15-million-weekend-re-release/
The 2012 re-release didn’t just produce solid numbers domestically for Titanic — it added an eye-popping $350 million in global re-release receipts.

Would not surprise me if the average ticket price in 2012 (3d) was higher than in 1997.

All that to say they are not really a good comp for pricing.

Hershy said:
I realize that. That’s not why I wrote lol. Do I really need to explain it?
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Kind of., I am a bit slow because I have no idea what was laughing out loud funny there ?
 
MavericK said:
Meanwhile, the Last of Us Part II Remaster is only $50. Try again.
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This is exactly why I was arguing earlier that the difference between a remake and a remaster absolutely does matter.

A game that’s remastered isn’t being remade from the ground up. Remasters are much cheaper to create, obviously, because prior resources are being used.

A completely re-made game is going to cost way more to create because the game is being rebuilt from the ground up.

Clearly, a remaster should cost less than a remake.

The game you cited, The Last of Us Part Two, was a remaster, so obviously it should cost less. I mean, duh. So, I don’t know… try again?
 
I mean it will be on game pass I am pretty sure. So what $10 to play it?

Now, yeah I would rather have it in my steam library. But, IF it has proper RT and lets me use DLAA. I would GLADLY take an TES game in the UE5 engine. Specially if they reworked shields/stealth etc. I would totally pay $70 for that.

Guess we shall see
 
GoldenTiger said:
Yes, you laughed at the idea of oblivion having good graphics for 2006 by quoting pc gamer then saying "lol", why deny it?
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Beam me up, Scotty.

You really can’t see the humour in someone from a previous era praising something that, by today’s standards, is antiquated? I’m completely aware that Oblivion’s graphics were phenomenal for the day because that’s exactly what I thought too.

Sorry, but I don’t know how to explain humour to you. I mean, wtf?
 
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Brackle said:
I mean it will be on game pass I am pretty sure. So what $10 to play it?

Now, yeah I would rather have it in my steam library. But, IF it has proper RT and lets me use DLAA. I would GLADLY take an TES game in the UE5 engine. Specially if they reworked shields/stealth etc. I would totally pay $70 for that.

Guess we shall see
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Before everyone starts bitching about the price, or saying that the fan-created thing will be better, we really should wait until tomorrow to see what this release actually is.
 
Hershy said:
Beam me up, Scotty.

You really can’t see the humour in someone from a previous era praising something that, by today’s standards, is antiquated? I’m completely aware that Oblivion’s graphics were phenomenal for the day because that’s exactly what I thought too.

Sorry, but I don’t know how to explain humour to you. I mean, wtf?
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That's not in what you wrote, nor reasonable to infer from it.
 
I think that nobody cares about this crap.

Wait for the release of the actual game. Everything hinges on whether or not this game was completely remade from the ground up - and that’s including re-worked dialogue.

This will determine the price of the game and, in all likelihood, the audience.
 
It'd be a shame if they went through all this trouble but left the jank and other balance issues from the original game.
 
Hershy said:
Before everyone starts bitching about the price, or saying that the fan-created thing will be better, we really should wait until tomorrow to see what this release actually is.
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Boring.

Let's speculate until the minute it releases and then some.
 
Hershy said:
I think that nobody cares about this crap.

Wait for the release of the actual game. Everything hinges on whether or not this game was completely remade from the ground up - and that’s including re-worked dialogue.

This will determine the price of the game and, in all likelihood, the audience.
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Then why do you keep posting about it?
 
Master class in marketing by Bethesda....I don't think I have seen this much hype for a game since Halo 2 and Skyrim.
 
The main thing I keep thinking about this is that the biggest shortcomings and issues with TESIV weren't the visuals...

The game was really great looking back in the day, and a lot of popular modern indie games look far less nice or polished.

The issue was the pure, crystalised JANK that seeped from every corner, the wooden, unpleasant dialogue, the terrible and exploitable leveling system.

A visual overhaul A-La Halo MCE or Shadow of the Colossus won't fix the MAIN things that need fixing.
 
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