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Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered

Decko87 said:
Depends on if you think content moderation is censorship, but at the end of the day they're a private company and allowed to do that. They're not legally obligated to host anything. I'd put it more under content moderation, and a pointless decision that'll only fill up their service email. Shit gets taken down here or threads get shut down all of the time. Ultimately, I dont care, the game is awesome regardless of who made it.
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You're correct, as a private company they can absolutely decide what goes on their platform.

But that isn't really the point of the discussion.
 
Comixbooks said:
oh yeah turn Post Processing to Low to save your eyes I think I need FOV turned up a few notches as well.
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I got a killer migraine from playing for an hour last night, I ended up getting a refund from Steam after giving up. I tried a lot of different settings to relieve the eye-strain, but post processing isn't a setting that I considered. Do you think that is the major factor for why this is so fatiguing (to put it mildly) on my eyes? I would be willing to give it another try, but I don't think Steam would refund me again if it didn't work. The only other game in recent history that hit me this hard was the Gothic Remake demo, about an hour of play of that one also lead to a migraine.
 
Brackle said:
I mean who gives a fuck if they use type 1 and 2. It's not like its hurting anyone other than someones Ego lol.

And before you go (Well the game was changed blah blah). Company owns the game and can do whatever they want. If they want to ban all Trans stuff or change things, don't buy the game. Thats the freedom we have...is to choose to buy it or not.
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I mean who gives a fuck if they use male and female. It's not like its hurting anyone other than someones Ego lol.

And before you go (Well the game was changed blah blah). Once people download the game and they can do whatever they want. If they want to mod or change things, tough fucking luck. Thats the freedom we have...is to choose to mod, pirate or not buy the game.
 
Blade-Runner said:
I mean who gives a fuck if they use male and female. It's not like its hurting anyone other than someones Ego lol.

And before you go (Well the game was changed blah blah). Once people download the game and they can do whatever they want. If they want to mod or change things, tough fucking luck. Thats the freedom we have...is to choose to mod, pirate or not buy the game.
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Exactly :) So grab the mods from another place. That's the freedom of choosing a host to download them. Thank god for freedom of choice!
 
izzypizzy said:
I got a killer migraine from playing for an hour last night, I ended up getting a refund from Steam after giving up. I tried a lot of different settings to relieve the eye-strain, but post processing isn't a setting that I considered. Do you think that is the major factor for why this is so fatiguing (to put it mildly) on my eyes? I would be willing to give it another try, but I don't think Steam would refund me again if it didn't work. The only other game in recent history that hit me this hard was the Gothic Remake demo, about an hour of play of that one also lead to a migraine.
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In Dark Souls Remastered with it's AA implementation, which causes blurry visuals, sort of like black smearing on a slow VA panel, caused me instant nauseating sensation, though nothing serious. It is possible that a certain effect causes you the symptom, but alas the time limit of refunding perhaps doesn't allow for proper testing. In Dark Souls Remastered the effect was also visually unpleasing, so it was easy to point out, though the game doesn't have many graphic settings at all.

Try to get a Microsoft game pass access for cheap, perhaps there is an introductive promotion going on, so you can test practically without limits, the easiest way being disabling all possible processing and turning effects to low.
 
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Man, it's good to see other people get nausea from games too. I'm that weirdo that gets motion sick from blur, fov, etc. RE4, Cyberpunk are some chief offenders. I think the UE5 engine is a key contributor too, it really sucks.
 
Brackle said:
What about this is censoring you? I mean you can still make the person you want. I would rather have more options than being limited.

To me censoring and limiting your options to make a character is censoring you.
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I think they mean the modifications to the game to change it back to female and male being censored. I personally think it's stupid that they made this choice. One is clearly one and the other is clearly the other. Just say female and male. Now it's one more question I have to answer from my kids "why does it say body type 1 and body type 2?" They're gonna ask. Well... not if I don't buy it obviously.
 
I turn blur off always .. fov 90. Never get motion sickness.. idk.. VR didn’t bug me either.. like 1 second then my head calibrated. Skyrim VR was the most prone to induce motion sickness. For sure.
 
MrSneis said:
Man, it's good to see other people get nausea from games too. I'm that weirdo that gets motion sick from blur, fov, etc. RE4, Cyberpunk are some chief offenders. I think the UE5 engine is a key contributor too, it really sucks.
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dude
go play GTA 4 and go to the bar and get drunk
i physically have to look away from my monitor completely at that spot. nothing hits that hard for me. they toned it down in 5 a lot
 
Played for a few hours yesterday. It's a great remaster, beautifully done. Running well on my 5090 cranked at 4k.

After not having played Oblivion for probably 12 years, playing now has reinforced how much better this game is than Skyrim.

One thing I did notice is the voices sound crackly at points, like the original source file has been compressed strangely and the fidelity is bad. Anyone else notice this?

Is it worth $50? ...No.
 
harmattan said:
Played for a few hours yesterday. It's a great remaster, beautifully done. Running well on my 5090 cranked at 4k.

After not having played Oblivion for probably 12 years, playing now has reinforced how much better this game is than Skyrim.

One thing I did notice is the voices sound crackly at points, like the original source file has been compressed strangely and the fidelity is bad. Anyone else notice this?

Is it worth $50? ...No.
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I’ll bet you wrote that post to inform us covertly that you’re a 5090 owner. The braggadocio. :D
 
How does it run? Did not play the original. If this plays more like Fallout 3/NV in terms of dialogue options and the ability to kill most characters I may be interested in trying it. If it is like fantasy Starfield, I'll pass.
 
I am running 4k maxed settings on my LG OLED with a 7800x3d and 4070ti micro computer. Runs about 70 fps. I notice GPU and CPU usage always seem low in the 30% range.
 
harmattan said:
Played for a few hours yesterday. It's a great remaster, beautifully done. Running well on my 5090 cranked at 4k.

After not having played Oblivion for probably 12 years, playing now has reinforced how much better this game is than Skyrim.

One thing I did notice is the voices sound crackly at points, like the original source file has been compressed strangely and the fidelity is bad. Anyone else notice this?

Is it worth $50? ...No.
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Skyrim did combat better and had a much smoother traversal with Horse riding, dual-wielding magic+weapon or weapon+weapon was really good. The magic system including some 'hold down' mechanics was also a bit better than Oblivion where every spell was a "Cast and wait". I really enjoyed the Dwemmer ruins and some of the other environments.

But literally everything else Oblivion does better. I definitely spent a LOT more time in Oblivion than Skyrim, especially The Shivering Isles. Such an amazing expansion. I had one or two characters in Skyrim, Oblivion I made like 5 or 6 different role-play centric characters.

but I think we all just focus on the things that are done better in the old game and not realising some things did indeed improve going from Oblivion to Skyrim.
 
izzypizzy said:
I got a killer migraine from playing for an hour last night, I ended up getting a refund from Steam after giving up. I tried a lot of different settings to relieve the eye-strain, but post processing isn't a setting that I considered. Do you think that is the major factor for why this is so fatiguing (to put it mildly) on my eyes? I would be willing to give it another try, but I don't think Steam would refund me again if it didn't work. The only other game in recent history that hit me this hard was the Gothic Remake demo, about an hour of play of that one also lead to a migraine.
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Yeah the game is perfect I think my 27 inch OLED helps in that dept.
 
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I'm already pass the point where my Xbox version of the game left off. I never knew about the Quest tracking action in the original game. Turned FOV up to like 97 and turning off Post Processing to Low really helps.
 
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Game looks good, but the cities seems just as empty as they were in the original and the NPC's has their trademark Bethesda robot mannequin look where they quickly rotate their heads 45 degrees to look at you when you go by, which of course no one does in real life.

Do they also spout random gibberish when you pass them, to make them seem like mental patients you perhaps should cross the street to avoid?
 
Eivind68 said:
Game looks good, but the cities seems just as empty as they were in the original and the NPC's has their trademark Bethesda robot mannequin look where they quickly rotate their heads 45 degrees to look at you when you go by, which of course no one does in real life.

Do they also spout random gibberish when you pass them, to make them seem like mental patients you perhaps should cross the street to avoid?
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It's a modern 3D layer over the old game code, so there's not a lot that will change in terms of how the game behaves
 
jbltecnicspro said:
I think they mean the modifications to the game to change it back to female and male being censored. I personally think it's stupid that they made this choice. One is clearly one and the other is clearly the other. Just say female and male. Now it's one more question I have to answer from my kids "why does it say body type 1 and body type 2?" They're gonna ask. Well... not if I don't buy it obviously.
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Yes, it is stupid. If only someone conducted a poll to confirm what we already know...

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Do I think it's worth going on a huge tirade and be made the primary topic around the game? Of course not, but are people allowed to have opinions on it and discuss it? Absolutely - especially if it's something that was changed from the original game. Like updating the stupid bathroom signs in the Dead Space remake or removing swastikas from Doom, there's no reason to change something like that to appease, yet again, a tiny minority of people who might be offended over the concept of two genders or symbols planted firmly in history that everyone with a brain agrees represent evil (which is why, you know, we take joy in shooting the Nazis in those games).

Plus I am enough of a video game nerd to be curious about ANY changes that are made in remasters/remakes whether they be changes to level design, dialogue, art, whatever...differences in versions have interested me since the early days (like with Gauntlet and its dozen or so versions across Mac/Apple II/Atari ST/DOS/etc.) but especially the differences in presentation between SNES/Genesis games and later, XBOX/PS2/GC and then 360/PS3 before most things became unified. It's always been fascinating to me to learn how things were accomplished on a technical level to achieve similar (sometimes not so much) results whether that was due to one team developing for multiple consoles or different studios assigned to develop versions of a title for different systems.

With that being said, I don't know why people continue to upload stuff to Nexus knowing that they've been exhibiting hostile tendencies toward mods like that for a while. Have these folks never heard of ModDB which just focuses on games and doesn't really seem to cater to political ideologies? They've been around for a long time and host a lot of great mods so anyone whose mods get banned or removed from Nexus for dubious reasons should just use them instead:

https://www.moddb.com/mods/original-game-character-creator-fix-get-rid-of-body-type
 
Hershy said:
I’ll bet you wrote that post to inform us covertly that you’re a 5090 owner. The braggadocio. :D
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Hah, no. It is interesting that running this clean/native at 4k with all settings cranked still only gets you mid 40s FPS.
 
harmattan said:
Hah, no. It is interesting that running this clean/native at 4k with all settings cranked still only gets you mid 40s FPS.
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Just like the good old days. Even SLI'd cards didn't achieve a locked 60 fps in the open world right? Or am I mis-remembering?
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Just like the good old days. Even SLI'd cards didn't achieve a locked 60 fps in the open world right? Or am I mis-remembering?
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I vaguely recall my GTX680 SLI setup hitting mid-60s in Oblivion.

Correction: I had 680s for Skyrim. For Oblivion, I think I had 8800 GTX SLIs
 
This game really does a number on my Intel 13700k had 100c on my CPU on three cores going to disable XMP. I can't believe how negative the Steam Forums are if it isn't a performance complaint it's why the game sucks. The body type thing really left people unhinged.
 
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People telling him turn off head bob or increase FOV. The original game got me really good with this where I tossed it in the trash.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
I think they mean the modifications to the game to change it back to female and male being censored. I personally think it's stupid that they made this choice. One is clearly one and the other is clearly the other. Just say female and male. Now it's one more question I have to answer from my kids "why does it say body type 1 and body type 2?" They're gonna ask. Well... not if I don't buy it obviously.
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It's just virtue signaling. The player is still referred to as male or female in the game dialog.
 
I might be moving on from this sooner than I thought. I forget how shallow the combat was. I'll push through it a bit more but I'll probably just move onto Clair Obscur and see how that plays.
 
cvinh said:
I might be moving on from this sooner than I thought. I forget how shallow the combat was. I'll push through it a bit more but I'll probably just move onto Clair Obscur and see how that plays.
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Playing a melee character is a mistake in this game. Melee combat isn't good. To be fair melee combat is pretty garbage in nearly every game unless it's specifically made as a melee combat game. Even games where they try hard it's often still garbage like KCD.

But Oblivion doesn't restrict you to melee combat, there are a huge variety of spells that can make combat fun. This game has a lot of freedom and if you aren't enjoying the combat it's kinda on you, just play it differently.
 
KazeoHin said:
It's a modern 3D layer over the old game code, so there's not a lot that will change in terms of how the game behaves
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the devs kept saying it, we kept saying it, not sure why people are expecting different.

starting to get the eye thing like others mentioned, same as in indy, must be getting old... 3rd persons better but idk if this will hold my attention.
 
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izzypizzy said:
I got a killer migraine from playing for an hour last night, I ended up getting a refund from Steam after giving up. I tried a lot of different settings to relieve the eye-strain, but post processing isn't a setting that I considered. Do you think that is the major factor for why this is so fatiguing (to put it mildly) on my eyes? I would be willing to give it another try, but I don't think Steam would refund me again if it didn't work. The only other game in recent history that hit me this hard was the Gothic Remake demo, about an hour of play of that one also lead to a migraine.
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I hoped you turned off camera movements like head bob in the options menu in the game. This will without doubt give you a headache as it does it to me. Every time you walk the screen will slightly move, and if you are sensitive to that stuff you will get a migraine. The game is so much better and smoother after turning off that option.

Cyberpunk also was giving me migraines and then I turned off those camera animations and migraines gone.

EDIT: of course you may need to increase your FOV to at least 90.
 
Is this worth getting into? I don't remember if I ever completed this. Is this the one with Arrow in the Knee or was that Skyrim?
 
pendragon1 said:
i dont recall seeing any, maybe i missed them?
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The setting is not under graphics, it is under gameplay settings all the way at the bottom, it is called camera motion. Turn this off for sure if you want much smoother gameplay and especially if you suffer from motion sickness.
 
cvinh said:
I might be moving on from this sooner than I thought. I forget how shallow the combat was. I'll push through it a bit more but I'll probably just move onto Clair Obscur and see how that plays.
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I haven't played the original since it was new. I probably put 40-50 hours into the original game and that was it for me. I don't recall finding the gameplay particularly exciting. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the game well enough at the time, but I don't remember it having deep combat or anything. In fact, I remember quite the opposite.
 
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The setting is not under graphics, it is under gameplay settings all the way at the bottom, it is called camera motion. Turn this off for sure if you want much smoother gameplay and especially if you suffer from motion sickness.
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ah, thanks!
edit: was under accesibility!? helped a bit, still cant do more the an hour without eye strain and headache forming in 1st, 3rd is fine.
also someone mentioned shitty fps outside? seems so. no matter that settings i try it stays in the 40s....
 
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Dan_D said:
I haven't played the original since it was new. I probably put 40-50 hours into the original game and that was it for me. I don't recall finding the gameplay particularly exciting. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the game well enough at the time, but I don't remember it having deep combat or anything. In fact, I remember quite the opposite.
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Yea it was my first Elder Scrolls game so the idea of an open world game was such a novel concept to me at the time. It was pretty fun to explore but now playing through again, the dungeons just seem kind of basic/rudimentary. I think some of the quests are great though, particularly the one about the rats in the basement.
 
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