Eizo FlexScan EV2736W

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Apologies for not replying sooner my settings are the default user 1 settings.

Brightness 30
Contrast 50
Temperature off
Gamma 2.2
Overdrive enhanced
Gains RGB all set to 100.

I was going to purchase a calibrator however as the days/weeks went by I adjusted and started to enjoy my monitor, which to me is the most important part of the purchase instead of seeking beyond perfection.

My settings:

Brightness: 32
Contrast: 50
Temperature: Off
Gamma: 2.2
Overdrive: Standard
Gain: Red 100; Green 99; Blue 98

What contrast result did you receive, and what software are you using for calibration? I was only able to get 923:1 using dispcalgui + argyll.

Verification was done with Basiccolor 5.

edit: I can't read apparently, didn't see the part about lacking a calibrator.
 
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Anti-Hero

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Thanks guys. I've had the opportunity to use the monitor for a couple hours and I'm happy with it thus far. No stuck pixels, though there does appear to be glow present but not near the amount as on my FS2333.

Can testing for glow be somewhat achievable using the camera in a iphone 5s? I do not own a camera but would like to be somewhat scientific about putting this monitor through it's paces, which includes getting a handle on the panel glow.
 

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Thanks guys. I've had the opportunity to use the monitor for a couple hours and I'm happy with it thus far. No stuck pixels, though there does appear to be glow present but not near the amount as on my FS2333.

Can testing for glow be somewhat achievable using the camera in a iphone 5s? I do not own a camera but would like to be somewhat scientific about putting this monitor through it's paces, which includes getting a handle on the panel glow.

We'd be able to see the glow, but I imagine it'd be rather exacerbated by the camera.

Personally, I use Eizo Monitortest to check for glow, slide 11/24 to be exact. It should be labelled something along the lines of Geometry and convergence. It's useful as it makes it easier to see glow in the corresponding corners.
 

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That executable (Eizo-test9.exe) was released around 2007. It, as well as the Nokia Monitortest will not work with my Windows 7 (64 bit). Changing the compatibility properties to a prior Windows OS doesn't work either making me suspect that it is not compatible on a 64-bit operating system?

What operating system are you using?
 

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That executable (Eizo-test9.exe) was released around 2007. It, as well as the Nokia Monitortest will not work with my Windows 7 (64 bit). Changing the compatibility properties to a prior Windows OS doesn't work either making me suspect that it is not compatible on a 64-bit operating system?

What operating system are you using?

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

No issues running it on my end.
 

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I do have some backlight bleed and I tested mine a different way, maybe its wrong. But I use mspaint make a black background and full screen it. However Its hard to capture it without exaggerating the bleeding. So ill throw in 3 screens from a movie.

A dark screen taken at 1/15 exposure.
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Bright screen taken at 1/15 exposure.
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Dark screen with 1/2 second or 1 second exposure.
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Its not really there or noticeable while watching a movie much less while playing a game.
 

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My settings:

Brightness: 32
Contrast: 50
Temperature: Off
Gamma: 2.2
Overdrive: Standard
Gain: Red 100; Green 99; Blue 98

What contrast result did you receive, and what software are you using for calibration? I was only able to get 923:1 using dispcalgui + argyll.

Verification was done with Basiccolor 5.

edit: I can't read apparently, didn't see the part about lacking a calibrator.

Sorry I never calibrated the monitor via hardware/profile/software. I initially went through the presets, manually tried changing settings to match my old hp monitors and eventually settled down on User 1 preset. Those settings I posted above came from that preset.

Sorry just saw the edit.
 

Nikyo

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I do have some backlight bleed and I tested mine a different way, maybe its wrong. But I use mspaint make a black background and full screen it.

That works too. The Eizo Monitortest that I linked a post up has a black screen test as well.

Its not really there or noticeable while watching a movie much less while playing a game.

I imagine the last pic is a product of exposure.

Does your unit have any glow?
 
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owners, can you advise me? Should I be getting
This monitor OR LG 34um95?
where I live, this monitor is 250 dollars cheaper than the LG
Both are IPs and I want the monitor only for gaming. However, I'm a lol/dota/diable/starcraft type of gamer and so 144hz tn would make no difference to me. I want vibrancy and punchy colours that "pop" on screen.
I gather this screen has a almost glossy coating? so the colours pop? I don't care about the preciseness of the colour as long as it is saturated, vibrant and pops.
thanks for your time.
 

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owners, can you advise me? Should I be getting
This monitor OR LG 34um95?
where I live, this monitor is 250 dollars cheaper than the LG
Both are IPs and I want the monitor only for gaming. However, I'm a lol/dota/diable/starcraft type of gamer and so 144hz tn would make no difference to me. I want vibrancy and punchy colours that "pop" on screen.
I gather this screen has a almost glossy coating? so the colours pop? I don't care about the preciseness of the colour as long as it is saturated, vibrant and pops.
thanks for your time.

eizo is NOT ips. it's PLS.
 
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eizo is NOT ips. it's PLS.

yes, I know that much. when I said IPS, I meant all these similar things IPS, PLS and anything else that's exactly like it. basically, they're meant to give you vibrant picture far better than the garbage washed out tn.
 

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I imagine the last pic is a product of exposure.

Does your unit have any glow?

Yes was trying to show there are some points but its really hard to capture without over exaggerating how bad the bleed is. All other pictures were at 1/15, and the final one was a one second shutter speed.

So again anyone looking at the last picture that is not normal operations.

As for panel glow yes there is some glow but nothing really distracts me while gaming, watch a movie or studying.
 

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Apparently there is a version of this display that uses a "glow free" panel and one that doesn't. Is there anyway differentiate between the two or are we back to a panel lottery again?
 

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Apparently there is a version of this display that uses a "glow free" panel and one that doesn't. Is there anyway differentiate between the two or are we back to a panel lottery again?

There's five reports of glow; Anti-Hero and myself both cite the glow as being different from our 23" PLS monitors. Personally, the left side if the bottom left side of my monitor is the only one which glows for me; dunno about Anti-Hero. I suppose we can't truly say this monitor glows, but there's a high likelihood, if purchased from B&H, that there will be glow of some kind.

Also, keep in mind that at least two of the five reported glowing panels had obvious backlight bleed in the bottom left corner.

My advice would be, if you're really interested in a chance at glow free; buy an EV2736W from B&H, if you don't like it, simply exchange it for BL2710PT.
 

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There is bound to be a display that is consistently without glow, has decent color and gamma without having to play this huge lottery. I am not looking for a wide gamut which appears to be the primary mode available on higher end devices. I've been building, reviewing, and working in the it industry for over 15 years. I've never seen a time where there wasn't at least one superior display that didn't require multiple RMA's to simply get an average monitor!
 

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There is bound to be a display that is consistently without glow, has decent color and gamma without having to play this huge lottery. I am not looking for a wide gamut which appears to be the primary mode available on higher end devices. I've been building, reviewing, and working in the it industry for over 15 years. I've never seen a time where there wasn't at least one superior display that didn't require multiple RMA's to simply get an average monitor!

If price is a non-issue you can purchase the Eizo CX271.

While it is wide gamut, it has an sRGB mode with unlocked color controls.
 

Paragon54

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Thanks Nikyo! You make a good point, but I'd rather not have to spend that much for a monitor unless it is the only resort. I'm am use to doing careful research (sometimes to a fault), making a decision and purchasing the item. Nine out of ten times the choice is good for a 3-5 year life span.

I don't miss the size, power usage, and heat generated by CRT's, but I sure do miss their quality. ;)
 

Anti-Hero

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After having owned the monitor for about a week I can say I'm very content with it. I haven't undertaken any panel glow tests as recommended earlier in the thread, but can safely say it's not glow-free but the glow is greatly diminished compared to my Eizo FS2333. Regardless, it's not enough to really be distracting and I don't often use the computer without some kind of lighting on. I'm considering getting a desk lamp for this purpose alone.

Response time doesn't feel any slower than my FS2333, which I expected as one frame of lag is going to be pretty undetectable in my opinion. I am using the default User 1 color settings and turned the brightness down from 100 to 50 and it looks excellent. I was looking for identical image quality of my FS2333 just at 1440P and this screen does not disappoint.

I have two complaints, one of which is not endemic to this particular monitor.

1) The OSD buttons are finicky and require a good deal of applied pressure to actuate in a very pointed manner. Using the flat bits of your fingers isn't going to do it; you need to use your nails or find a mechanical pencil. Not a huge deal considering I won't be messing with the settings at all, however if you had multiple inputs connected to the monitor this would get frustrating.

2) The bezel came damaged, presumably through shipping. The damage is on the right back-side corner, so it's not perceivable during normal usage. I'm torn on whether or not to request an exchange as I fear losing the panel lottery, however cosmetic defects really shouldn't be acceptable on a monitor that costs close to $900.
 

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Hi guys, so i got Eizo EV2736W today, i was really excited, because i heard that it has almost glow free panel. Well, what i experienced was utterly different, panel had glow on all 4 corners when viewed from 60-75cm distance, or when viewed from an extreme angle, also it had backlight bleed @ bottom, dead pixel in the middle of the screen (could play games without crosshair on, lol).

My Qnix has same colour reproduction, maybe a little better blacks and black uniformity, also a bit better contrast, a little bit better latency, no funky backlight bleeding, can be overclocked to 120hz and is much much cheaper. I returned Eizo after having it for 2 hours. Only thing that was beter on Eizo was white uniformity versus my Qnix.

Maybe some of the Eizos EV2736W were glow free some time ago, but from my experience...no, they are not glow free, not these days batch, and they glow as all IPS/PLS panels.

All in all, i dont think this monitor is worth 640euros, even if the Eizo didnt have dead pixel and Backlight bleeding,

Anyway, here are the pictures, Eizo on the left, Qnix on the right:

http://tinypic.com/r/14mw5ck/8

Pic of my Qnix with black color during night:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2im75s3&s=8#.VDKm5vl_uCk

Sorry for such a pesimistic fast review, but that is my experience...
 

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I'm considering exchanging mine to B&H because the lower left panel glow is really bothering me. I have no frame of reference whether it's less than what other users have reported but I do want to give it an exchange. Problem is B&H is closed until the 19th for Succos so by the time they re-open it will be butting up real close to the 30 day exchange window.

edit: Here's some photos. I realize these aren't the best but I think it's a good indicator of just how strong the glow is in the lower left.


 
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Nikyo

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I'm considering exchanging mine to B&H because the lower left panel glow is really bothering me. I have no frame of reference whether it's less than what other users have reported but I do want to give it an exchange. Problem is B&H is closed until the 19th for Succos so by the time they re-open it will be butting up real close to the 30 day exchange window.

Man, I swear B&H is on holiday every other week.

Anyway, that looks pretty similar to what I experienced on my first unit. Could you get a photo in the dark as well?

Edit: Here's a picture of mine with ISO800 and one light on.

It's a bit exacerbated by camera exposure.

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Anti-Hero

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Your unit does look like it has less bleed than mine, but it's consistently in the bottom left for both of us, that's for sure.

I will snap a picture once it's dark this evening. I have genuinely good control over my office lighting except for a large sun window which I can't block out. Here is a pick I just snapped with the blinds closed and no lights on. I'll get a dark pic tonight.

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Anti-Hero

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It's odd that my screen seems very reflective compared to Nikyo's. You can see me taking the photo in all of them.

Here is with the overhead light on but the blinds closed. Mind you I'm using a iphone camera so quality is crap.

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Here's a glow pic.

Lights on with a lot of sunlight coming in.

NCX please advise.

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It's definitely not glow free. Glow free black looks black when viewed off angle. Return it and save up for an Eizo CX271 (1300$+)?
 

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It's definitely not glow free. Glow free black looks black when viewed off angle. Return it and save up for an Eizo CX271 (1300$+)?

I think what bothers me is that I can't see any glow head-on, except for the left side. It doesn't look like bleed to me so much as it just glows white heavily. My EV2336W glows blue and is extremely noticeable in dark scenes, perhaps that's thrown me off?

I seriously thought about the CX271 at one point. I kind of wonder if Eizo purposely switched the panels, because the CX271 and CG277 are actually marketed as having "True Black" capabilities. Given the different uses that's probably not the case, just an unfortunate issue on newer PLS panels, I guess.

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Anti-hero, your unit does look much glossier than mine. I guess it's just differences in lighting though.
 

Anti-Hero

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I'm not finding much for reviews on the CX271 as it's even more niche than the EV2736W. NCX, in your opinion is it fair to say it's a guaranteed glow-free version of the EV2736W? Do you know how the signal lag compares to the EV2736W?
 

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I'm not finding much for reviews on the CX271 as it's even more niche than the EV2736W. NCX, in your opinion is it fair to say it's a guaranteed glow-free version of the EV2736W? Do you know how the signal lag compares to the EV2736W?

The CX271 is actually advertised as "True Black" which is their branding name for glow-free.

The CG277 just came off paywall at prad http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-eizo-cg277.html

I imagine it should perform similar to the CX271, but hopefully NCX can give us some insight as to whether or not that's the case.
 

Anti-Hero

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I said I would deliver a low-light photo, so here it is (a week late).

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I submitted an RMA request to B & H and received a pre-paid UPS label within minutes, so the RMA process is off to a good start. Hopefully the next unit doesn't have such heavy glow in the lower left corner. If so, I might need to start looking at other monitors.
 
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There's five reports of glow; Anti-Hero and myself both cite the glow as being different from our 23" PLS monitors. Personally, the left side if the bottom left side of my monitor is the only one which glows for me; dunno about Anti-Hero. I suppose we can't truly say this monitor glows, but there's a high likelihood, if purchased from B&H, that there will be glow of some kind.

Also, keep in mind that at least two of the five reported glowing panels had obvious backlight bleed in the bottom left corner.

My advice would be, if you're really interested in a chance at glow free; buy an EV2736W from B&H, if you don't like it, simply exchange it for BL2710PT.

Make that 6. I just received a new EV2736WFS from B&H last night, and the glow is wicked bright. With a blackened screen, in a totally dark room, I can still read parts of the invoice using only the monitor glow as a "reading light". I'm not exactly thrilled with the amount of bleed either, but it's not terrible, and at least it's uniform looking to the naked eye. Of course I had to back up 10 feet (3 meters) to be sure I wasn't perceiving glow as bleed in the corners.

As a starting point suggested in many posts, I reset the monitor color settings, then configured User1 mode for 33 brightness, 50 contrast, color gain 99r, 100g, 98b, and EcoView OFF. I also ensured that my graphics card and Windows weren't adjusting color or gamma. After much eyeballing, I settled on 33br, 49c, 100r, 98g, 97b to get white to appear white, and re-gain visibility of some gray shades. The highest shade of gray (254) is indistinguishable from white at any setting, and the lowest 5 shades of of gray are indistinguishable from black, even in a dark room.

So, unless someone can identify a fault in my procedures or expectations, I guess I roll the dice again with RMA/exchange.

Your thoughts?
 

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I've not calibrated a monitor before, but shouldn't you use a color calibrator to do that? Out of the options you played around with brightness and maybe contrast are the only ones that should have any effect on the perceptible glow.

Is the glow evenly distributed to all four corners? The issue I had with mine is it's VERY heavy in the bottom left. The remaining corners have glow similar to other IPS monitors I've owned, which was disappointing but not unlivable. The bottom left however looks like a fucking white spot on dark images, and the 27" panel size isn't doing any favors with regards to limiting its perception at normal viewing distances.

My unit is still on it's way to B&H. If the next exchange I get is a dud I'll consider getting the Benq BL2710PT; from reviews it seems like really the only edge the Eizo had was being glow-free, for my purposes.

edit: If the glow is moderately even in strength at all four corners I wouldn't bother exchanging for another second panel. Nikyo's first unit was similar to mine, and his exchanged panel had reduced bottom left glow, but overrall it's still a glowing panel. If you want to RMA I would recommend just exchanging for a different brand all together.
 
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I've not calibrated a monitor before, but shouldn't you use a color calibrator to do that? Out of the options you played around with brightness and maybe contrast are the only ones that should have any effect on the perceptible glow.

Is the glow evenly distributed to all four corners? The issue I had with mine is it's VERY heavy in the bottom left. The remaining corners have glow similar to other IPS monitors I've owned, which was disappointing but not unlivable. The bottom left however looks like a fucking white spot on dark images, and the 27" panel size isn't doing any favors with regards to limiting its perception at normal viewing distances.

My unit is still on it's way to B&H. If the next exchange I get is a dud I'll consider getting the Benq BL2710PT; from reviews it seems like really the only edge the Eizo had was being glow-free, for my purposes.

edit: If the glow is moderately even in strength at all four corners I wouldn't bother exchanging for another second panel. Nikyo's first unit was similar to mine, and his exchanged panel had reduced bottom left glow, but overrall it's still a glowing panel. If you want to RMA I would recommend just exchanging for a different brand all together.

I'ts too bright in the room now to check, but IIRC from last night, both bleed and glow are uniform looking on my panel. What you describe sounds like bleed to me, but I'll take your word for it. The thing is, I spent this $$$ specifically for a glow-free experience (and reasonable bleed) as described by TFTCentral in their review. There is no justification for an Eizo price tag on a Dell bargain basement experience. I cannot imagine that my monitor's glow is remotely similar to the unit reviewed by TFTCentral, because that would mean all those other PLS/IPS monitors they compared it to (none of which I have seen in a darkened room) would be unusable for anything but a vending machine. LOL

I may wait to hear your RMA results before going down that path myself.

Concerning your first question, yes, absolute color accuracy requires calibration hardware that I don't have. However, with some experience, patience, and test images of known quality, you can visually detect and tune out the most abhorrent errors. Further/fine tuning won't have any perceivable effect on glow.
 

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Time to remove the Eizo from my best 1440p monitor list. Please check the back sticker for the manufacturing date.
 
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