twelveparsex
[H]F Junkie
- Joined
- Nov 30, 2000
- Messages
- 12,955
As an eBay Associate, HardForum may earn from qualifying purchases.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I'd probably avoid Samsung Until they get these issues worked out.
I'd probably avoid Samsung Until they get these issues worked out.
Any concerns dealing buy/rakuten even with ebay as a middle man?
With Amazon, you also usually pay for tax
Sure if people are buying Hot Deal eBay drives for their Linux data center...
Umm, I wouldn't put EVO drives in a data center anyway.
With Amazon, you also usually pay for tax. So that 162 becomes around 175. So that's a 16% markup total. Amazon does have a good return policy though.
Personally, I don't really understand why everyone is so eager to jump on Samsung's next batch of new tech drives anyway. They messed up the last batch of EVO's (though we only found out much later on as is the usual with these types of technology), yet everyone's still shoving money down their throats to beta test the next batch. I've said this before, but I'd go with something using older and maybe slightly slower tech that has been out and tested for much longer. SSD is better than no SSD, but a faster SSD isn't necessarily much better than a slower SD.
I'd probably avoid Samsung Until they get these issues worked out.
I run Linux at home so this matters to me. Samsung SSDs are currently on some of the kernel blacklists for enabling certain features.
Hmm, I'm running Gentoo on a Linux server at home using kernel 4.0.5 with an 840 EVO and haven't experienced any issues.
Because most likely it was found in the blacklist already & the features were disabled
http://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg91983.html
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1465663
timmy ~ # /sbin/fstrim -v /
/: 217.2 GiB (233254367232 bytes) trimmed
That's interesting, as TRIM appears to be working:
Code:timmy ~ # /sbin/fstrim -v / /: 217.2 GiB (233254367232 bytes) trimmed
Any concerns dealing buy/rakuten even with ebay as a middle man?
Check the source in the kernel you are using & you can see what is/was disabled.
They may have just disabled queued trim... IF my original post is right, and Samsung doesn't fix their 8** line firmware, I could imagine trim being disabled completely in a future kernel until a firmware comes out.
I've said this before, but I'd go with something using older and maybe slightly slower tech that has been out and tested for much longer. SSD is better than no SSD, but a faster SSD isn't necessarily much better than a slower SD.
I agree. What's the deal with so much talk about performance compared to how little emphasis seems to get placed on other parameters like reliability and power consumption?
Simply because this is [H]ard|Forum, not [P]ower|Forum!!!
No time to dig any deeper, but thanks for the information.
I haven't had any problems, so far. I placed my order late last night, and got my shipping confirmation and tracking number today around noon.
I was considering the amazon deal, because Prime. But for me, Texas sales tax killed the deal, and 150ish was my jump on price. Good timing, too since my old game drive just died
The only reason I have any interest in them now is the price. The competition is $10-40 more. I have the feeling samsung is dropping the price to counter the 840 evo disaster. But I'll give them a pass for at least another 6 months or so and stick with other brands.
You really think they'd make that same mistake again? I can understand being hesitant, but this is Samsung we're talking about, not OCZ.
Also, Robstar...do the issues in that link effect only Linux, or Windows too? I can appreciate Linux guys staying away due to the issues mentioned but if it only affects them, then the other 99% of the world can rest easy.
Well, I think it's only blacklisted for ncq trim. This doesn't affect windows. However the company in the first link I posted claims data corruption in corner cases with normal trim+linux+Specific workloads. Probably a corner case. I think we'll have to see what Samsung finds to know if it affects Windows.
I don't need this, I don't need this, I don't need this.....crap, this deal is taunting me. 3-4 years ago this would have been 1K easily lol.
You really think they'd make that same mistake again? I can understand being hesitant, but this is Samsung we're talking about, not OCZ.
Also, Robstar...do the issues in that link effect only Linux, or Windows too? I can appreciate Linux guys staying away due to the issues mentioned but if it only affects them, then the other 99% of the world can rest easy.
Someone on another forum said that these Samsung SSDs are way less reliable than say Crucial SSDs. Anyone have experience with the 2 that can speak to this 1st hand?
I've heard the opposite before...but without a huge sample size and knowing the failure rates, there's no way to say for sure...
...I CAN tell you that there are a ton of people here who have used both without a single issue...I say pick the one that fits your budget and go with it.
Yeah that's a good point. I guess the other thing that might be a little more easier to compare is how good is customer service/tech support in the event a failure occurs and how good is the vendor (Samsung in this case) on releasing firmware updates.I've heard the opposite before...but without a huge sample size and knowing the failure rates, there's no way to say for sure. Even someone who has used 10 of each brand can't give statistically significant data. Most of what you read on forums is going to be purely anecdotal. "I had TWO xxxxx's die on me, so they're all crap!" or "My friend's xxxxx only lasted 6 months before it started locking up and erased his data and killed his dog and farted on his pillows."
I know that I have read about some issues with some of the Crucial drives, but I'm not sure how widespread they were or if they were limited to one series. I read absolutely nothing bad about the Samsungs until the 840 EVO fiasco, and it seems like they've been in the spotlight since then, but the 840 and 850 series are extremely popular and I think that if there were real issues that affected large numbers of people, we'd be hearing more about them.
I CAN tell you that there are a ton of people here who have used both without a single issue...I say pick the one that fits your budget and go with it.
You really think they'd make that same mistake again? I can understand being hesitant, but this is Samsung we're talking about, not OCZ.
When and where did you get a 1 TB 850 Evo for just $275? That's a crazy good price. Heck, I don't know if this year's BF will have a better deal than that for that make/model.Meh, for me it wasn't about real-world speed increases, it was about price. I got my 1TB 850 EVO for $275, which is lower than I've ever seen the 960GB M500 whose lowest price until recently was $305 on Amazon, and user reviews were extremely positive for both so I just picked the cheaper one.
Also, that's the second time someone has used that Guru3D link to raise concern about Samsung SSDs, but it talks about a firmware issue with the 850 Pro and is not indicative of the 850 EVO. They use completely different firmwares, NAND, etc. It would be like me saying that everyone should steer clear of Hondas because the 2002 Accord had a transmission recall. It's not indicative of all of their products.
I'm not arguing for or against the Crucial. And the 850 EVO may very well turn out to have some "catastrophic" issue at some point. For me, it's just a Steam drive so I don't give 2 shits. I'm not running anything mission critical on it. Maybe I'll pick up an M500 too, now that they're only $280 AR, and compare the two over time.