Early Office 2010 Sales 'Disappointing'

Too little. 2007 was a big upgrade with the Ribbon and all, but unless they come up with some holo-deck technology, there's almost no reason to get 2010.
 
Sorry, but who buys office 2010 on release day? ZOMG it has super fonts? Seriously. I mean I can understand corporations that migrate to it on new machines, or when they do thier coporate wide refresh going to the latest version. I get that. However, I doubt I'll buy another copy of this software as long as things like open office are avaliable.
 
vengence said:
Sorry, but who buys office 2010 on release day? ZOMG it has super fonts? Seriously. I mean I can understand corporations that migrate to it on new machines, or when they do thier coporate wide refresh going to the latest version. I get that. However, I doubt I'll buy another copy of this software as long as things like open office are avaliable.
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Pretty sure this is the main reason why it hasn't sold so well. Not only did I not know when Office 2010 was released, I just didn't care. Office 2007 is fine for my papers and lackluster presentations. I only have Office 2010 on my laptop because I recently purchased it and it came with the PC.
Like most consumers - they purchase Office with their PC. MS should only be worried if people were opting to have Office 2003/2007 on their new PCs rather than 2010.
 
Ms office is expensive!

Know one really uses or needs the new features.

No price break for upgraders.

open office is free!

Bad economy so people are not buying unnecessary updates to products they already own.

Most people use word and nothing else. Some businesses use excel.
 
I love the full ribbon customization and the ability to easily export my custom ribbons in case of reinstall or to port them over to multiple machines. Print Preview is so much better now.

One problem though is that I spent months getting users to "click the orb". Now it's gone, so I have to tell them to "click the colored tab".

For most folks, Wordpad would be enough for document creation. but this is aimed at business users, but our office is always needing the newer version of Excel, as several master spreadsheets inch toward 1 GB+ in size and need the breathing room provided in each successive version.
 
TexUs said:
Little reason to upgrade is IMO a huge reason.

Office 2007 was a nice upgrade. Office 2010... Apart from some menus and other nice little changes, not much new... I could live perfectly happy with Office 2007.
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And that's cool but there's a lot you really don't know about then. It's a much bigger change than this, you just don't need it or see it.
 
KillaChaos said:
Pretty sure this is the main reason why it hasn't sold so well. Not only did I not know when Office 2010 was released, I just didn't care. Office 2007 is fine for my papers and lackluster presentations. I only have Office 2010 on my laptop because I recently purchased it and it came with the PC.
Like most consumers - they purchase Office with their PC. MS should only be worried if people were opting to have Office 2003/2007 on their new PCs rather than 2010.
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If you read the article it actually is selling as predicted after the first two weeks, that's why this story is lame. Office 2010 isn't selling well but Office 2010 is selling well. That's literally what its saying.
 
I found Outlook 2010 alone to be worth the upgrade

I used Outlook 2007 for a long time and while it is powerful and full of features, it always felt slow compared to OSX Mail, Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail. I continued using Outlook 2007 because of all the powerful features it has

Outlook 2010 is a huge upgrade. The UI is much better, the program runs faster and overall it is the best email client I have used (I used to be a huge OSX Mail fan). There are still some missing features such as unified inbox or smart folders but all in all Outlook 2010 is excellent
 
I'm not a power Office user like most. I got Office 2010 for $10 through work. I got Office 2007 last year the same way.

Got it on my TX2 tablet PC. It was a nice upgrade from 2003. I'm not a ribbon hater...although I find myself looking around a bit more still to find things.

I don't really see how it's any better than 2007 though...I still have that on my desktop.

Granted, all I do with office is chuck out some term papers and an occasional powerpoint. I don't do a whole lot more with it at work either (minus some basic spreadsheets).

At home I only install Word, Excel and Powerpoint. Don't need the rest.
 
If you all you use are Word, Excel and Powerpoint you are missing out on the bigger changes. You have a TX2 (I have one of those as well but now am on a tm2 as my main tablet) and don't use OneNote? That app got a fairly big update, like web shareable notebooks.
 
Cruiza said:
Presumed Reasons:
Very little reason to upgrade from previous version
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Pretty much this. I only use word processing and spreadsheets, which haven't really had any advanced the last decade (not that they need it...a spreadsheet is a spreadsheet). In fact I'm still using Office 2000.
 
Taco said:
If you are cursed enough to have a Sharepoint environment, possibly, but you have bigger issues :D.

My last company is likely going to upgrade everyone to 2010, but mostly because they skipped 2007.
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If you have something against sharepoint you haven't used it, and if you did not in the right environment. That thing is truly limitless you can probably not find something that it can't do. I learn something for it everyday it just keeps going and going and going...
 
There really is not much of a difference between 2010 and 2007 anyways. I don't recommend buying it.
 
WAKASHIZuMa said:
I found Outlook 2010 alone to be worth the upgrade

I used Outlook 2007 for a long time and while it is powerful and full of features, it always felt slow compared to OSX Mail, Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail. I continued using Outlook 2007 because of all the powerful features it has

Outlook 2010 is a huge upgrade. The UI is much better, the program runs faster and overall it is the best email client I have used (I used to be a huge OSX Mail fan). There are still some missing features such as unified inbox or smart folders but all in all Outlook 2010 is excellent
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+1. Outlook 2010 is leaps and bounds faster, esp. when loading HTML-based emails. All around seems snappier, easier to use.
 
Funny how people have finally realized you don't need to spend $500 for a new Word Processor every 3 years.
 
They broke something in Office 2010. I paste a lot of text in to outgoing emails, and what used to take half a second now takes 20-30 seconds. Why it takes so long I have not been able to figure out.

The problem exists on 5 different machines so it's not machine specific.

WAKASHIZuMa said:
I found Outlook 2010 alone to be worth the upgrade

I used Outlook 2007 for a long time and while it is powerful and full of features, it always felt slow compared to OSX Mail, Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail. I continued using Outlook 2007 because of all the powerful features it has

Outlook 2010 is a huge upgrade. The UI is much better, the program runs faster and overall it is the best email client I have used (I used to be a huge OSX Mail fan). There are still some missing features such as unified inbox or smart folders but all in all Outlook 2010 is excellent
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DeathPrincess said:
Your forgetting peer pressure. How would a student live it down if they were like "no I can't come out because i'm saving for office 2010". And people would laugh and say "but 2007 has all the same features" and then you'd have to be all like "but it allows social interaction". Which at which point the very fact that you had stopped going out and enjoying your brief years of "socialising" were stopped by something with "socialising something". Which would mean that technology was taking over our lives, and skynet had become aware. AT which point i'd be at your front door screaming for you not to forget the shotgun sheels and everclear. And we all know shotgun sheels cost more then 80$. When we look back after the apocalypse, we shall allknow that that 80$ was well spent.
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I'm going to ignore how unlikely this scenario is and just say that if you can't afford $80 for a productivity suite for college than you probably should get a fucking job.
 
heatlesssun said:
Where I work everyone LOVES SharePoint. Honestly, not sure where you coming from but most enterprises love SP, the damned thing is awesome, one again, if you know how to use it.
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I'm coming from someone who has deployed and managed them at several organizations. They are a nightmare to admin.

And it's an extreme rarity that places know how to use it. I find most end user management love the idea of sharepoint, but the reality doesn't catch on.
 
SoulHunter said:
If you have something against sharepoint you haven't used it, and if you did not in the right environment. That thing is truly limitless you can probably not find something that it can't do. I learn something for it everyday it just keeps going and going and going...
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I've used it sparingly from a user standpoint, I've created, maintained, migrated and all that backend crap too many times go back to the first release.

And for every 5 or 6 of these maybe 1 was actual used in a way that justifies the administrative overhead to keep it running.
 
Most people are still content with Office 2003/2007.

I actually didn't know Office 2010 was out already. lol:confused:
 
heatlesssun said:
And that's cool but there's a lot you really don't know about then. It's a much bigger change than this, you just don't need it or see it.
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Enlighten me.

More file compatibility standards, background removal tool, new templates, jumplist support, and screen capture? Hardly major features.

Probably the biggest feature are the new collaboration tools... But those aren't something most people will use. x64 was another biggie, but again, most people can care less.


I guess I'm missing why it was a large upgrade for most everyone?
 
I wasn't aware that there wasn't an x64 version before this.

Of course I don't use Office at home, so..
 
Yeah, sometimes I think these things are released in order to justify people paying through the nose on Microsoft Software Assurance agreements.

Outlook is nicer, but that seems to be the common opinion with every new office release.
 
We haven't even upgraded past Office 2003 yet. There is no reason for our company. Its simply handing Microsoft a pile of cash and getting nothing useful in return.
 
For those that are saying Office 2003 is fine. Keep in mind it's out of mainstream support, so if you need support, you ARE going to pay.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=2488

Of course they're being out done by those that are still on Office 200, which as of today is no longer supported by Microsoft.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=2484

Who pays $400 for Office?
If your company is on an enterprise agreement or software assurance, you can get a copy for about $10.
If you're going to get it on your own, why not just get a TechNet Standard Subscription for $199 (before discounts) ? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/buy.aspx

Paul Thurrott has a good run down on TechNet Subscriptions. It's worth the read http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/totw/technet.asp
 
webdev511 said:
For those that are saying Office 2003 is fine. Keep in mind it's out of mainstream support, so if you need support, you ARE going to pay.
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If we haven't needed support since the software was released, why would we ever need it in the future?
 
It's less the support and more when they stop releasing security patches. Like they are about to with XP SP2.

I have no clue what the schedule on this is for 2k3.
 
rflcptr said:
My hammer hasn't broken yet, therefore it never will. :rolleyes:
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I've honestly never used it either.

So spending a couple grand to upgrade Office for everyone versus a $200 call with Microsoft (that you'd probably never use)... Which makes more sense?
 
Cruiza said:
Presumed Reasons:
  • People got turned off by Office 2007
  • It's not cheap
  • Google Docs and Open Office
  • Very little reason to upgrade from previous version
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Agreed.

I think we'll see very litte upgrading of Office until Office 2003 support expires. It's much like XP in this regard.

Office versions after 2003 seem to offer very few positives and a few negatives (most notably new incompatible file formats and a user interface that most people seem to hate).

I've even heard of people threatening to quit if ever forced to upgrade to 2007 on their work machines.

Personally for home use I still use an old copy of Office 2000 and it works fine for me. I wouldn't mind upgrading to 2003 (but not 2007 or 2010 dye to the shitty ribbon interface) but there is little improvement over 2000 to warrant the cost...
 
TexUs said:
Enlighten me.

More file compatibility standards, background removal tool, new templates, jumplist support, and screen capture? Hardly major features.

Probably the biggest feature are the new collaboration tools... But those aren't something most people will use. x64 was another biggie, but again, most people can care less.


I guess I'm missing why it was a large upgrade for most everyone?
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The whole suite loads faster, particularly Outlook. Outlook has QuickSteps that can save you a ton of time if you organize mail into folders, something that Microsoft says 70% of Outlook users do, I know everyone at work does this. OneNote which is now the #3 app in the Office suite after Word and Excel, much faster at importing web content overall, improved page management with a recycle bin for recovery deleted content, linked notes which is EXTREMELY cool in adding links to both local and web content directly to notes.
And for those using Tablet PC, the enhanced ribbon interface and improved UI make it much easier to use most of the Office products on a touch screen, particularly Outlook and OneNote.

As I said you don't this stuff, and maybe what I've listed here doesn't effect most people but millions and millions WILL find these enhancements. I use these features and in the coming months with the release of a slew new of Tablet PCs in the coming months, people who use Office on the devices, and I now a TON of people that what a TPC JUST for OneNote, others will find them useful.
 
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