- Jun 14, 2011
EA, when are you gonna make this?
What he actually said:
Which is 100% factually accurate; there were enormous numbers of women that saw combat in WWII. That includes women actively fighting for the western allies, though those were in special operations roles, not regular army.
That's not to say the game won't suck, because EA, but they're 100% correct that women were involved in direct combat in WWII.
Trying to defend sexism with "but my immersion" is deplorable. Gaming is not club G.R.O.S.S.
My new goal in life is to have things so easy that I can spend time worrying about stupid crap like the gender of a character I’m playing as in a video game.
They don't look very intimidating.Women's Battalion
American reporter Bessie Beatty estimated the total number of women serving in these gender-segregated units at 5,000 in the fall of 1917, but only the 1st Russian Women's Battalion of Death and the Perm Battalion were deployed to the front.
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These were Russian female soldiers in the images above.
46 Canadian female soldiers were killed during the war.
Women in World War I.
2,000 Finnish female soldiers fought in their Civil War which was started because of Russia's collapse during World War I. It ended with Finland finally breaking from from Russian rule and becoming an independent country. Finland was supposed to join Germany after the war, but we know how that worked out.
Female Red Guards of the Finnish Civil War.
Women have been fighting in wars since the beginning of time. Heck the Vikings were notable for their women fighting alongside the men. I don't know why people think that the same cultures that produced the Vikings would suddenly make their women into trophy wives for World War I.
Most women enlisted during World War I from America were nurses or doing things like running switchboards. Nurses of course were in the military hospitals that were near to the battles. Many men that were traumatized by chemical warfare preferred female nurses as they could calm them down.
11,000 American women in the Navy
21,000 Army nurses.
Lots more. Check out the article.
Same thing happened in World War II.
well honestly thats who they're talking to if you're complaining about unrealistic characters in a fantasy driven video game with unrealistic outcomes. "Oh let me just fly my P-52 and eject at 400mph and snipe an enemy pilot between the eyes, steal his aircraft in mid air, kamikaze an infantryman on horseback and then knife a medic in the throat for a sweet multi-kill!" while bitching about how women were never in combat.That's not the real issue, it's when EA said "Accept it, or don't buy it" as though they are daddy threatening his kids
It's two-fold. You have the SJW crowd that champions anything like this, regardless of context, then you have the anti-SJW crowd that swarms in and trips over themselves to talk about how dumb the SJW crowd is. The dynamic leads to a ton of views, publishers see this, so they give a platform to the SJW crowd to make more money, and rinse and repeat.The sad thing is, why the fuck is this even a topic of discussion?
Tired of everyone getting fucking butthurt over nothing.
This. There is a difference between having XYZ in your game because you wanted to make your game better or had an honest artistic vision, and another because you're pushing your ideological agenda. People can sense which is which, hence the backlash. This "bigoted gamers hate women in games" is not only a lie so obvious it's not even funny anymore, it's downright insulting.It's not really a huge deal I just think people are getting tired of having PC bullshit shoved into their hobby.
No company made more money by disrespecting their established base and catering to SJWs. SJWs aren't consumers, they're ideologues and keyboard activists with no real interest in subjects or products they parasite off. They've killed movies, they've killed comics, they've killed books and they've killed games. They will never buy your "reformed" product because they have no interests besides bitching. And every company that stood against them, watched its numbers soar.It's two-fold. You have the SJW crowd that champions anything like this, regardless of context, then you have the anti-SJW crowd that swarms in and trips over themselves to talk about how dumb the SJW crowd is. The dynamic leads to a ton of views, publishers see this, so they give a platform to the SJW crowd to make more money, and rinse and repeat.
Sorry, I was referring to online journalism publishers. He was asking why this is a topic of discussion. The news and journalism sites DEFINITELY benefit from SJW coverage because it means more views. It doesn't matter if who they're covering crashes and burns, as long as there's a brigade of people ready to decry them and get record views for their articles every time they cover one, they win. That's why you keep seeing SJW topics in the news over and over.No company made more money by disrespecting their established base and catering to SJWs. SJWs aren't consumers, they're ideologues and keyboard activists with no real interest in subjects or products they parasite off. They've killed movies, they've killed comics, they've killed books and they've killed games. They will never buy your "reformed" product because they have no interests besides bitching. And every company that stood against them, watched its numbers soar.
We all know guys play girls for the sexiness. I mean if I were to get Battlefield V (I'm not) I would make this if possible. Shouldn't be a problem, cause we're not worried about historical accuracy now are we? Just imagine her running around with a rifle squatting on players she's killed.I think it's cool that EA included women in the game. I play games for entertainment, not for historical accuracy. And I think the game will be more interesting with female characters.
That model appears to be all white, it will never fly. (if I had time I would make it rainbow colored)
that's not the real issue, it's when EA said "Accept it, or don't buy it" as though they are daddy threatening his kids
Anyone know when Shadow of the Tomb Raider, the sequel to Rise of the Tomb Raider will be released?
Excellent series, blows away anything EA
How about Metro Exodus? I heard in 2019 but when (another series that blows EA out of the water)
EA was the one bragging for caring about realism in this game. That's one of the reasons for the stronger backlash.I'm laughing at the majority of you who take a fictional story account in game form and try to make it all about historical realism! It's a fucking GAME. As I generally hate EA's decisions a majority of the time, on this simple point, I'm with Soderlund- Buy it or don't! Vote with your wallet and quit your whining!
OMG! Dinosaurs appearing in a WWII game?!?! Start crying now! /sarc
there is nothing realistic about video games. Women are an up and coming market for game companies. It does not make sense to sell them games where they can only play men.
How is that an issue, exactly? He’s saying that’s their plan for the game, and if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Sounds pretty logical to me. If a single player campaign with a woman character is enough to turn you off of a game that’s almost exclusively multiplayer based in the first place, then go play something else. Much more logical than spending hours bitching about it on the internet.
Those of us in a relationship, the conversation can go from "Why are you playing that game" to "I want to try it".
I had my wife play Tomb Raider and she enjoyed it. But she only watches me play BF for a few seconds. Insert female character and she'll move me out the way.
For movies, I'm a little more hard on this topic because of storytelling and it's ability to affect peoples worldview after the film.
That's a MALE mannequin, the hip region has the wrong aspect ration for a woman.