The whole gameplay trailer looks arcady and non realistic to begin with, I'm not sure which part of the female brakes the immersion for you. It's a little strange to me that woman fighting is silly, but powersuits and aliens is ok. :/For a lot of us immersion plays a big role. It defines the difference between mediocre games and great ones. When you see something silly and unfitting it just takes you out of the experience. Similar to how TV/movies/games try and make every former SEAL a female. It is just silly and makes the character less believable. Crysis 3, The 100 are two examples that come to mind but there are a number of others that I've seen. They try to build up a character to make them seem badass, but when you chuckle at how silly it is you take the character less silly.
LMAO! How many starving African children could we feed with our comments?Today in some parts of the world, 13-year old girls are fighting and dying in real wars.
Not that I really care (obviously I don't, since I'm not doing anything to stop it) but doesn't it illustrate how inane this debate is?
You sound like EA provided you a sense of pride and accomplishment.
Imagine if you were a women in WW2 and were doing a "man's" job. Imagine how much for pride and accomplishment you'd feel.
You sound like you are attributing shit to my comment that isn't there.
Fuck EA before, now, and after.
And for whats its worth: My paternal grandmother was a mechanic working on bomber engines during WWII while her husband, my paternal grandfather, was a B-24 flight engineer flying over Europe. I don't give a shit one way or another about how people feel about women soldiers in a fucking WWII video game. I know what happened in real life.
Private Vasquez from Aliens, anyone? No one gave a shit that the character was a woman and no one argued that she was a badass.
Spent a few HOURS on the phone and in a chat window with EA this past week with their tech reps for an issue I'm suddenly having with Mass Effect 2/3 and DLC install/access in game. After a while you begin to realize they all lie (and on a regular basis like it's the normal thing to do) and all of them say "sorry" a lot like Zuckerberg likes to do and then you begin to realize they are reading off an idiot sheet on their PC monitor and can't think for themselves (which is probably why the tech support help line is free). After many calls to EA they promise to escalate the issue but don't and no amount of screenshots you send them seems to change anything. Eventually they offer a partial refund for the game price and offer ZERO for the DLC you paid for. What a shady company ...
No other gaming company I've ever dealt with has such consistent issues like this and on such a regular basis so as to need a free tech line for customers. I never had an issue at STEAM that they didn't solve and they never had to bail out by offering me a partial refund ...
Hey EA, I'm laughing at the superior intellect
I wish Buffy, Firefly, and Angel was mentioned in the vid.
To note one thing that was always said about Joss Whedon is that he writes female characters really well, and the women actors really like their characters. The issue here to me, is that many of the designers of games, writers of movies, whatever entertainment now just go about the whole thing wrong. Make it unappealing, piss in the fan base face, and say fuck off "its their way." Well they will all tank because of that. People just want some well done, likable, game play that introduces shit properly-just not in their manner. Been done with DICE long time ago anyways, and EA can suck a peanutty shit for all I care.
Waiting for Cyberpunk.....
For a lot of us immersion plays a big role. It defines the difference between mediocre games and great ones. When you see something silly and unfitting it just takes you out of the experience. Similar to how TV/movies/games try and make every former SEAL a female. It is just silly and makes the character less believable. Crysis 3, The 100 are two examples that come to mind but there are a number of others that I've seen. They try to build up a character to make them seem badass, but when you chuckle at how silly it is you take the character less silly.
American reporter Bessie Beatty estimated the total number of women serving in these gender-segregated units at 5,000 in the fall of 1917, but only the 1st Russian Women's Battalion of Death and the Perm Battalion were deployed to the front.
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These were Russian female soldiers in the images above.
46 Canadian female soldiers were killed during the war.
Women in World War I.
2,000 Finnish female soldiers fought in their Civil War which was started because of Russia's collapse during World War I. It ended with Finland finally breaking from from Russian rule and becoming an independent country. Finland was supposed to join Germany after the war, but we know how that worked out.
Female Red Guards of the Finnish Civil War.
Women have been fighting in wars since the beginning of time. Heck the Vikings were notable for their women fighting alongside the men. I don't know why people think that the same cultures that produced the Vikings would suddenly make their women into trophy wives for World War I.
Most women enlisted during World War I from America were nurses or doing things like running switchboards. Nurses of course were in the military hospitals that were near to the battles. Many men that were traumatized by chemical warfare preferred female nurses as they could calm them down.
11,000 American women in the Navy
21,000 Army nurses.
Lots more. Check out the article.
Same thing happened in World War II.
Yes, the build-up of female combatants is way, way overdone in basically everything lately because the main issue is that they constantly remind the fucking audience that "and this is being done by a woman, wow!" as opposed to the approach of simply showing someone badass being badass and letting the audience accept it as such. Private Vasquez from Aliens, anyone? No one gave a shit that the character was a woman and no one argued that she was a badass.
I guess the structure of how you used Crysis and The 100 makes more sense if you had that at the end of what you typed because the examples don't apply otherwise. There's a stark difference between something like a female Navy SEAL in Crysis, an apocalyptic future setting...
But also...wtf do you expect them to do when they're trying to appeal to as broad an audience as they can? This is about money...
The whole gameplay trailer looks arcady and non realistic to begin with, I'm not sure which part of the female brakes the immersion for you. It's a little strange to me that woman fighting is silly, but powersuits and aliens is ok. :/
Companies make crappy games and movies. Deal with it.
I'm sorry...did you just suggest that the inclusion of women is enough to turn a great game into a mediocre one because your sense of immersion is ruined?
How in the world do you cope with regenerating health and HUDs? Or do you believe that soldiers actually see a handy icon pointing out the locations of enemies whenever they're shot?
This isn't about immersion.
It's about other people getting to choose an avatar that more accurately represents them.
I guess somehow other people getting to play pretend is ruining your ability to do so?
That must be so difficult for you. How do you go on?
So the last samurai wasn't real :/Because it is still silly. It just cuts believably because it is supposed to be serious. Imagine a serious modern day film where someone claims they learned fighting skills because they were a samurai. Even if briefly, your immersion is killed. Yeah movies are not real, but good films (or games) set up a theme and try to seem believable.
According to PC Gamer it will launch with only the British and Germans. Then more countries will be added as time goes on. Considering how many Russians died during the war I'd assume that they will be added at some point.Context.
Do you play as a Russian in the game?
I really miss the early days of gaming, none of this bullshit existed. I play games to escape the crap of day to day life, which ever way you come down on this topic its a sad day for gaming.