Flogger23m
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Anyhoo, I'm all for Battlefield: Bad Company 3 on Steam. Make it happen, EA.
Bad Company 3 for consoles, BF6 for PC for me. No prone, tiny maps and few vehicles? No thanks.
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Anyhoo, I'm all for Battlefield: Bad Company 3 on Steam. Make it happen, EA.
Origin is better than Steam IMO. No shitware to comb through and it's a simple and effective design. EA should stick with it and keep improving on it. Steam is on a long term death spiral, most people I know have abandoned it or barely use it now.
To all those complaining about Steams's "shoverlware", no one is forcing you to purchase any of it. It's really no different then Google ads; based on past purchases & views it tries to highlight other games you might like. And it's not their fault the other companies insist on pushing crap titles to try and make a buck; Steam just offers them a storefront where they can expose their games to users, something I note they *can't* do on closed launchers (Uplay/Origin). Granted, 90%+ of those titles are crap, but there's a few good ones that would never see the light of day if Steam didn't offer exposure.
The complaint is asinine and overreach by people looking for reasons to hate steam. How the presence of shovelware somehow detracts from the overall intuitiveness and features of steam is baffling.
Easy. I type in "flight sim" in the product search and it takes me shifting through three pages to find some of the best flight sims currently available. First few pages are filled with garbage shovelware. Absolute failure on Steam's search algorithm.
I don't go randomly browsing or searching for games on steam, and I generally know what I want to find so this is a complete non-issue for me (and I suspect for many others as well). And for shits and giggles go type "flight sim" on Origin, your experience isn't going to be any better in terms of finding anything at all.
Guess which gets me the information I need quicker?
I don't go randomly browsing or searching for games on steam, and I generally know what I want to find so this is a complete non-issue for me (and I suspect for many others as well). And for shits and giggles go type "flight sim" on Origin, your experience isn't going to be any better in terms of finding anything at all.
Origin doesn't have 100 pages of shovelware to comb through.
Google search followed by going directly to the store page for the game in question? You are trying awfully hard to nitpick here. Using a physical store analogy makes even less sense considering that there are no alternative methods for finding what you want other than methodically wasting time trawling through the store. The point of my facetious example is that at least there is an offering on steam (which are not really that hard to find), as opposed to nothing but EA's trash games on origin.
Google search will bring up all kinds of things, from games not for sale any longer, to youtube videos, to reviews, Wikipedia to industrial flight simulators and more. It isn't the same as trying to figure out what is for sale on Steam or another digital storefront. Ironically you're the one nitpicking. Your stance is if there is an issue that doesn't affect you personally then it is irrelevant. You can use the same logic for customer reviews or cloud saves. Not everyone uses them but that doesn't mean they're irrelevant and shouldn't be improved if there are issues with them.
Very interesting. Would like to see how this pans out. EA did try to make Origin competitive way back when then threw in the towel for 3rd parties.
Valve probably cut a deal with EA for lower fees to come back to Steam. Valve might just be feeling the heat, and competition can be good.
Origin doesn't have 100 pages of shovelware to comb through.
Origin doesn't have 100 pages of shovelware to comb through.
There's been a lot of manufactured hate for Steam since Epic hit the scene, it feels weird defending Steam but BS is BS. Too many games, too many features, 30% is too much(even though it's a bargain compared to all previous distribution methods and very few publishers actually pay 30%), LMFAO. If EA who already has an established digital distribution service of their own puts their games back on Steam that pretty much proves that Steam isn't a bad deal for publishers, if there's one thing EA has plenty of it's bean counters
With that said if it's like Ubi games where Uplay still gets launched I'd only get the Steam version if it was cheaper, no need for a launcher in my launcher and Origin is at least serviceable. Of course with Bioware basically dead I don't see myself buying any future EA games at this point.
Well I think this can be mutually beneficial. Valve is loosing AAA games like crazy. EA has had crap release after crap release for a few major titles, plus their micro transaction schemes which finally reached the attention of law makers. Valve probably cut them a good deal (better than most other developers) on fees because they need more high profile games and EA can use some good publicity. Seems like it can work out well for both parties. Likewise, if someone big like EA folds it can have a secondary affect of making other AAA developers question their own plans for launching their own client which can be to Valve's advantage.
I'm not sure EA has too many highly in demand titles anymore
Most of the top talent left the studio and any remaining are most likely there to keep getting a paycheck. It's too bad they fucked up both Dead Space and Mass Effect game franchises. The early games were great, but the latter ones fell short.I'm sure that bioware also still has some good games in them if they get better leadership and they let them do what they do best.
I don't comb through anything, type the title of the game I want. /the end.
Yes your anecdotal experience just ends the debate.
And your anecdotal experience does?
Honestly you're describing about the worst way to find random games in a genre and I see nothing wrong with a bird flight sim coming up when you search for flight sims. If I wanted to find a flight sim and didn't already know what one I wanted I would look online for reviews and discussions to figure out which one(s) I wanted and then figure out the best place to get it based on price, DRM, dev support, and availability.
In any case I expect to see a bunch of stuff I'm not interested in if I browse or do a generic search on any game store and I don't see how more options that can be ignored is bad unless you're talking about straight up asset flip garbage which Steam has already cracked down on. Also if you are browsing a store Steam makes it the easiest to access reviews, news, and discussions about a game, GOG is the second best though I'm not sure how all that works using their client.
Not sure why people are excited to have it on steam. You will still need to install origin to play the game. It is the same thing with Ubisoft/Rockstar games......
Except I didn't give any anecdotal experience for Steam, just stated facts about it being bloated with shovelware--unless you're trying to claim otherwise. But since we're going on anecdotal experiences, I'll post my quick and dirty one down below.
Sometimes you don't know exactly what you want and pick a category (e.g. MMORPG) and it lists a ton of random games including ones fully in Chinese on the US Steam store:
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Released_DESC&tags=-1&tags=128
Second title in the list:
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Yep, I've always wanted to play Xuan Chen Xian Tu....
Probably doesn't matter to most users. Once you're in the game you shouldn't care.So you want to go back to opening up Steam in order to open Origin to launch an EA game in stead of just opening Origin directly?
Probably doesn't matter to most users. Once you're in the game you shouldn't care.