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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/droid-x-can-now-be-counted-among-the-rooted/
Didn't take them too long.
Didn't take them too long.
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Very nice. Thanks for the news. Now we just need to wait for some 2.2 Roms to come out.
Just to be clear, they have not been able to load different ROMs yet, they have only unlocked root access to make changes within the current ROM
Yep I understand, but its only a matter of time. If there is a will, there is a way. Either way its good news.
Does that include free wifi tethering?Just to be clear, they have not been able to load different ROMs yet, they have only unlocked root access to make changes within the current ROM
Does that include free wifi tethering?
I dunno...I would really love to get rid of the bloatware shit but I've never rooted a phone before. Are there any side effects of rooting that makes the phone do weird things?
Very nice. Thanks for the news. Now we just need to wait for some 2.2 Roms to come out.
Just to be clear, they have not been able to load different ROMs yet, they have only unlocked root access to make changes within the current ROM
Yep I understand, but its only a matter of time. If there is a will, there is a way. Either way its good news.
Does that include free wifi tethering?
I dunno...I would really love to get rid of the bloatware shit but I've never rooted a phone before. Are there any side effects of rooting that makes the phone do weird things?
Does rooting give any control over processor clockspeed? Or would overclocking require a custom kernal?
This phone is still on my 'don't bother' list until they get the bootloader unlocked and CM6 on it. I can't stand the bullshit skins/widgets/bloatware they put on these phones.
Birdman, the guy who rooted Droid X, is currently working on getting overclocking to work. He's trying to do it like the Milestone. You can follow his twitter here:
https://twitter.com/mrweeeedbirdman
Here is how they got the Milestone to overclock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683451
With root you can now remove crap like Motoblur and the bloatware.
I'm a geek but i'm new to all of this Android stuff. I have a Droid X (coming from a BB Storm and there was nothing that you could do to that phone!) and I too want the bloatware and background process removed. With just rooting it alone can I free my phone from that crap? I don't mind the way the phone runs now, i just hate to see my memory so low because of all of the motorola crap running in the background. No matter how many times i kill the social network app the damn thing comes right back.
My question is- can you root it and remove that or do you have to wait for custom roms?
Custom roms are not yet available because although root access is now available, the bootloader (which allows you to flash new roms) is still locked. I would imagine with the popularity of this device, it will be cracked at some point, but just not yet.
Not locked, encrypted. BIG difference. Like huge.
We will likely never see custom ROMs on this phone in it's lifetime. Unless somebody inside Moto releases the key, you can all but forget it.
Custom roms are not yet available because although root access is now available, the bootloader (which allows you to flash new roms) is still locked. I would imagine with the popularity of this device, it will be cracked at some point, but just not yet.
With root you should be able to remove whatever bloatware is on there, but to be clear: just because RAM is "used" doesn't mean it's slowing anything down or using resources - Android actively manages background applications and shuffles things in and out of RAM based on necessity. Task managers are useless on Android (except for killing a program that has hung), and can often make battery life worse because they can force necessary tasks to continually restart due to an overly aggressive task killer.
So if I root my phone, I can hop in and remove everything that i do not want on it without changing the current rom? Just not sure how all of that works yet. If that is the case, what is the purpose of custom roms?
For all intents and purposes, it's not able to be accessed and produce the desired result. I'm sure this 'e-fuse' will be sorted out.
e-Fuse has nothing to do with any of this and was never actually an issue. It was overblown by blogs posting things that they didn't understand.
There is no function on this phone that will permanently brick it if you load an unauthorized rom. It just won't start up until you reinstall the properly signed rom.
I guarantee the boot-loader encryption will be broken eventually so people can put custom ROMs on it. I just hope it's within the next month or so because I guarantee the Droid 2 will have the exact boot-loader and will need to be cracked. I really want to switch my Droid for the Droid 2 (mostly for the extra RAM and Gingerbread compatibility), but don't want to lose the awesome dev community/ROM choices I have with the Droid. This phone has been perfect for me. If not, the Fascinate will be a good alternative if it's rooted and unlocked (bootloader) relatively quick. The X is just too damn big for my hands (I have the smallest hands of any man in existence that doesn't have some sort of physical disorder).
I really want to switch my Droid for the Droid 2 (mostly for the extra RAM and Gingerbread compatibility),
You mean eventually like how the milestone still doesn't have custom roms eventually?
What makes you think the Droid 1 will not be compatible with Gingerbread? Google debunked the rumors regarding the 1Ghz and 512MB hardware requirement: http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/02/google-shuts-down-gingerbread-rumors/
I don't believe that the milestone has enjoyed nearly the same sales success that the Droid X has (even to date) - that's my guess, at least. Given the popularity of this device, I'd be willing to wager that this will be sorted within the next few months.
I was anticipating his response. Thanks for answering for me . There's already exponentially more Xs in peoples hands than the Milestone ever saw (in the US at least). I'll give it a month or 2 at most before they crack it.
I'm guessing you need a 3rd party app like Titanium Backup. One of it's features is uninstalling, and I believe you can install just about anything with it. Plus it's an awesome backup program.
If you get it though, just remember that with the free version you can only keep 1 copy of each backup at a time. It backs up the apps individually, but only 1 copy each.
Wait...i'm still not 100% understanding...so yes or no...if I do what the guy does in the video and just root my phone, i can remove the bloatware that was installed on it? Will this mess up anything in regards to how the phone runs?
^^^ Thank you very much sir!
So what is the big deal with running custom ROMs then? What special magical features does this unlock on the phone?
Depends on the dev.
Bugless Beast, which I run on my Droid, is done by Pete and he added quite a few neat things. Scripts that remove bloatware easily. Pete also added a script that throttles the CPU so things like SetCPU are no longer needed for overclocking if you don't want to use them. I don't know what Pete does but I get better battery life without SetCPU on the BB ROMs.
Back before Android 2.1 was officially released a lot of custom ROM's gave you large amounts of 2.1 functionality early.
ROM's like Cyanogen often unlock functionality early as well. Such as 720p video recording on certain devices.
Other items like undervolted and overclocked kernals are very handy for extracting more battery life and more performance, all included in many of these custom roms. Various tweaks that open up tons of settings is another benefit to custom roms.